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Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:47 am

kalm wrote:If this were Tom Brady, he'd already be indicted. Remember how much conviction Lance Armstrong spoke with?

It's a bit early to say that. Armstrong went around for a full decade+ claiming he was Jesus before he came "clean."

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:53 am

Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:"She" isn't a she.
Are you thinking of Chelsea Manning?

Post by **kalm** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:57 am

tribe_pride wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Hit the nail on the head with Armstrong. This could finally be the start of exposing the use of performance enhancers in the NFL.
People don't care if NFL players use PEDs. Look at some of who has been suspended already - Antonio Gates, Wes Welker (later overturned technicality), Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Tony Gonzalez, Rodney Harrison, Shawne Merriman and Julius Peppers. Few if any could care about them being suspended for violating the substance abuse policy. Baseball or cycling they would be crucified

Totally agree. But just for the sake of argument, are they as egregious as under-inflated footballs?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:22 am

tribe_pride wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Hit the nail on the head with Armstrong. This could finally be the start of exposing the use of performance enhancers in the NFL.
People don't care if NFL players use PEDs. Look at some of who has been suspended already - Antonio Gates, Wes Welker (later overturned technicality), Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Tony Gonzalez, Rodney Harrison, Shawne Merriman and Julius Peppers. Few if any could care about them being suspended for violating the substance abuse policy. Baseball or cycling they would be crucified

Just like baseball didn't. And like baseball still doesn't care if you beat your wife (amirite, Yankees?)

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:00 pm

I'm curious which TWO NFL crimes Brady was accused of..?
I'm only aware of one - which was an equipment violation

Spygate was a bill belichick violation

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:03 pm

tribe_pride wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Hit the nail on the head with Armstrong. This could finally be the start of exposing the use of performance enhancers in the NFL.
People don't care if NFL players use PEDs. Look at some of who has been suspended already - Antonio Gates, Wes Welker (later overturned technicality), Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Tony Gonzalez, Rodney Harrison, Shawne Merriman and Julius Peppers. Few if any could care about them being suspended for violating the substance abuse policy. Baseball or cycling they would be crucified

They are only crucified if they are American cyclists. Europe accepted doping in cycling years ago.

I am one of the few Lance Armstrong defenders of him usding PEDs.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:08 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
People don't care if NFL players use PEDs. Look at some of who has been suspended already - Antonio Gates, Wes Welker (later overturned technicality), Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Tony Gonzalez, Rodney Harrison, Shawne Merriman and Julius Peppers. Few if any could care about them being suspended for violating the substance abuse policy. Baseball or cycling they would be crucified
They are only crucified if they are American cyclists. Europe accepted doping in cycling years ago.

I am one of the few Lance Armstrong defenders of him usding PEDs.

I'm a Seahawks fan
and they are the PED ring if ever there was one

and the fan base get PISSED OFF at me when I casually announce that - It's a PED House
and when it crashes it's going to be ugly - the NFL will get them - They know its a team wide issue in Seattle

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:41 pm

dbackjon wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
People don't care if NFL players use PEDs. Look at some of who has been suspended already - Antonio Gates, Wes Welker (later overturned technicality), Von Miller, Aqib Talib, Tony Gonzalez, Rodney Harrison, Shawne Merriman and Julius Peppers. Few if any could care about them being suspended for violating the substance abuse policy. Baseball or cycling they would be crucified

Just like baseball didn't. And like baseball still doesn't care if you beat your wife (amirite, Yankees?)

And they REALLY don't care if you get beat up BY your wife (amirite, Angels)?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:01 pm

Chizzang wrote:I'm curious which TWO NFL crimes Brady was accused of..?
I'm only aware of one - which was an equipment violation

Spygate was a bill belichick violation

You really think Brady was ignorant of what was going on?

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:03 pm

Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: They are only crucified if they are American cyclists. Europe accepted doping in cycling years ago.

I am one of the few Lance Armstrong defenders of him usding PEDs.

I'm a Seahawks fan
and they are the PED ring if ever there was one

and the fan base get PISSED OFF at me when I casually announce that - It's a PED House
and when it crashes it's going to be ugly - the NFL will get them - They know its a team wide issue in Seattle

Yup. Legion of Boom? Nah, Legion of PED

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:11 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I'm curious which TWO NFL crimes Brady was accused of..?
I'm only aware of one - which was an equipment violation

Spygate was a bill belichick violation
You really think Brady was ignorant of what was going on?

SURELY he had nothing to hide by not turning over his text messages.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:45 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
You really think Brady was ignorant of what was going on?
SURELY he had nothing to hide by not turning over his text messages.

Spygate had text messages involved..?

And the investigators had all the texts sent - nobody is questioning that

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:47 pm

Chizzang wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
SURELY he had nothing to hide by not turning over his text messages.
Spygate had text messages involved..?

I think GATW is confusing Spygate with Deflategate.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:49 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Spygate had text messages involved..?

I think GATW is confusing Spygate with Deflategate.

Spygate has nothing to do with the players - its about the coaching staff and process related to filming teams
However: Don't confuse me with people who think Brady isn't guilty

He is obviously guilty

Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:55 pm

Chizzang wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

I think GATW is confusing Spygate with Deflategate.
Spygate has nothing to do with the players - its about the coaching staff and process related to filming teams

And again, you are naïve to think that Brady didn't know anything about it.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:57 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Spygate has nothing to do with the players - its about the coaching staff and process related to filming teams
And again, you are naïve to think that Brady didn't know anything about it.

I never said he didn't "know anything"
But it didn't involve players - it was NOT RELATED TO PLAYERS - do you understand that SIMPLE POINT

Like BOUNTY GATE
is about COACHES not players - the players obviously know who to go hurt and hit in the knees
but it was about coaches

Jezus Titty f*cking christ - just stick with the simple points

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:15 pm

Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: They are only crucified if they are American cyclists. Europe accepted doping in cycling years ago.

I am one of the few Lance Armstrong defenders of him usding PEDs.

I'm a Seahawks fan
and they are the PED ring if ever there was one

and the fan base get PISSED OFF at me when I casually announce that - It's a PED House
and when it crashes it's going to be ugly - the NFL will get them - They know its a team wide issue in Seattle

No kidding. I often ask people who they would rather see at MLB, Bobby Wagner or me to make my point.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:48 am

Chizzang wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
And again, you are naïve to think that Brady didn't know anything about it.
I never said he didn't "know anything"
But it didn't involve players - it was NOT RELATED TO PLAYERS - do you understand that SIMPLE POINT

Like BOUNTY GATE
is about COACHES not players - the players obviously know who to go hurt and hit in the knees
but it was about coaches

Jezus Titty f*cking christ - just stick with the simple points

So when the coaches come in an half time after getting all the feedback on the other teams calls from the videos and they change the entire game plan they players, especially the QB, were ignorant of what was going on? So either Brady was complicit in SpyGate or he has the brain the size of a pebble. Which is it?

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:13 am

HGH, you heal so well.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:57 am

GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I never said he didn't "know anything"
But it didn't involve players - it was NOT RELATED TO PLAYERS - do you understand that SIMPLE POINT

Like BOUNTY GATE
is about COACHES not players - the players obviously know who to go hurt and hit in the knees
but it was about coaches

Jezus Titty f*cking christ - just stick with the simple points
So when the coaches come in an half time after getting all the feedback on the other teams calls from the videos and they change the entire game plan they players, especially the QB, were ignorant of what was going on? So either Brady was complicit in SpyGate or he has the brain the size of a pebble. Which is it?

So now the quarterback is on the coaching staff and making the halftime adjustments for the team..?
Dude - I get it it - its called HATE

Brady hate is some of my favorite hate...

Post by **dbackjon** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:59 am

GannonFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I never said he didn't "know anything"
But it didn't involve players - it was NOT RELATED TO PLAYERS - do you understand that SIMPLE POINT

Like BOUNTY GATE
is about COACHES not players - the players obviously know who to go hurt and hit in the knees
but it was about coaches

Jezus Titty f*cking christ - just stick with the simple points
So when the coaches come in an half time after getting all the feedback on the other teams calls from the videos and they change the entire game plan they players, especially the QB, were ignorant of what was going on? So either Brady was complicit in SpyGate or he has the brain the size of a pebble. Which is it?

Boom!

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:52 am

dbackjon wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
So when the coaches come in an half time after getting all the feedback on the other teams calls from the videos and they change the entire game plan they players, especially the QB, were ignorant of what was going on? So either Brady was complicit in SpyGate or he has the brain the size of a pebble. Which is it?

Boom!

more like *Boo like from a ghost...

Post by **dbackjon** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:56 am

Chizzang wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Boom!

more like *Boo like from a ghost...

I think you need to get some sun...all that cloudiness has rotten your brain

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:29 am

dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

more like *Boo like from a ghost...

I think you need to get some sun...all that cloudiness has rotten your brain

I can't wait for the playoffs man... This is going to be a fun playoff year for the NFL

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:23 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

more like *Boo like from a ghost...

I think you need to get some sun...all that cloudiness has rotten your brain

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