Obama Executive Action on Guns

[Pwns]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This quote is just ridiculous.

"Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre, or the one before that, or the one before that, so why bother trying," Obama said. "I reject that thinking."

"We know we can't stop every act of violence, every act of evil in the world. But maybe we could try to stop one act of evil, one act of violence," he added.

Translation: So what if what I'm doing won't actually prevent the kind of massacres we use to promote gun control. Gun control is about feeling good and not doing good.

[Chizzang]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/ ... index.html

This quote is just ridiculous.

"Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre, or the one before that, or the one before that, so why bother trying," Obama said. "I reject that thinking."

"We know we can't stop every act of violence, every act of evil in the world. But maybe we could try to stop one act of evil, one act of violence," he added.

Translation: So what if what I'm doing won't actually prevent the kind of massacres we use to promote gun control. Gun control is about feeling good and not doing good.

He is just EVIL - Pure unadulterated EVIL
How dare he talk to us like that



BTW: Gun sales will double in the next 72 hours

[Grizalltheway]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/ ... index.html

This quote is just ridiculous.

"Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre, or the one before that, or the one before that, so why bother trying," Obama said. "I reject that thinking."

"We know we can't stop every act of violence, every act of evil in the world. But maybe we could try to stop one act of evil, one act of violence," he added.

Translation: So what if what I'm doing won't actually prevent the kind of massacres we use to promote gun control. Gun control is about feeling good and not doing good.

So being realistic instead of purely idealistic is a bad thing now? When did the conk mantra on that change?

[93henfan]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/ ... index.html

This quote is just ridiculous.

"Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre, or the one before that, or the one before that, so why bother trying," Obama said. "I reject that thinking."

"We know we can't stop every act of violence, every act of evil in the world. But maybe we could try to stop one act of evil, one act of violence," he added.

Translation: So what if what I'm doing won't actually prevent the kind of massacres we use to promote gun control. Gun control is about feeling good and not doing good.

What in this EO would have prevented Sandy Hook? San Bernardino? Columbine?


Nothing. That's what.

[AshevilleApp]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/ ... index.html

This quote is just ridiculous.



Translation: So what if what I'm doing won't actually prevent the kind of massacres we use to promote gun control. Gun control is about feeling good and not doing good.

What in this EO would have prevented Sandy Hook? San Bernardino? Columbine?


Nothing. That's what.

Likely not. But did it not include a request for money for mental health issues? The executive actions were really very tame, from the quick synopsis I read. They'll generate a shatstorm though.

[Chizzang]

What in this EO would have prevented Sandy Hook? San Bernardino? Columbine?


Nothing. That's what.

Likely not. But did it not include a request for money for mental health issues. The executive actions were really very tame, from the quick synopsis I read. They'll generate a shatstorm though.

The Left has been telling us that 2x2=6 on this issue forever...
followed by the Right correcting them and telling us 2x2=5

[ASUG8]

Either way, this becomes yet another economic stimulus package directed toward the gun lobby. Ammo and AR-15's will be flying off the shelves in the coming week.

[AshevilleApp]

Either way, this becomes yet another economic stimulus package directed toward the gun lobby. Ammo and AR-15's will be flying off the shelves in the coming week.

Yup!

[AshevilleApp]

Likely not. But did it not include a request for money for mental health issues. The executive actions were really very tame, from the quick synopsis I read. They'll generate a shatstorm though.

The Left has been telling us that 2x2=6 on this issue forever...
followed by the Right correcting them and telling us 2x2=5

And you are dead center?

[Chizzang]

The Left has been telling us that 2x2=6 on this issue forever...
followed by the Right correcting them and telling us 2x2=5

And you are dead center?

I am a firm believe in the 2nd amendment
as defined "well regulated" and "armed"

and have no issues with either perspective actually
because it is as stated perfectly above - meaningless



It's like making Marijuana illegal or any other "thing" people want desperately
legislation is meaningless and makes criminals out of regular citizens

[AshevilleApp]

And you are dead center?

I am a firm believe in the 2nd amendment
as defined "well regulated" and "armed"

and have no issues with either perspective actually
because it is as stated perfectly above - meaningless

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I have a much bigger problem with HOW he is doing it than what he is doing. In an executive orders purest form, it is nothing short of a monarchy. "I King Obama hereby proclaim that all _______________." Fill in the blank and just because one man says it it becomes law? It really strikes me terribly wrong and I could give a shit less how many presidents did it before and after, we need to fix it.

[bluehenbillk]

I'll be in the minority here but I give Obama a lot of credit on this & going it alone or doing what he can by executive action. Will what happened today prevent the all-too-common massacres that we now see? Sure it won't. However, there's no way to definitively say either way that it might prevent some, or just one.

The definition of insanity is just repeating failure over & over and expecting a different outcome. The zealots that hide/stand behind the 2nd Amendment & don't want to change a thing and tell you that there is zero that can be done are kidding themselves.

Forget the nonsense that this is a first step & the government is coming to take your guns - that's never going to happen. Just look at today for what it is, you can't tell me it's a bad thing. It would have been better if it would've been brokered in Congress sure, but this is 2016, what is newly brokered in Congress that both parties agree on any issue nowadays? Virtually nothing.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I'll be in the minority here but I give Obama a lot of credit on this & going it alone or doing what he can by executive action. Will what happened today prevent the all-too-common massacres that we now see? Sure it won't. However, there's no way to definitively say either way that it might prevent some, or just one.

The definition of insanity is just repeating failure over & over and expecting a different outcome. The zealots that hide/stand behind the 2nd Amendment & don't want to change a thing and tell you that there is zero that can be done are kidding themselves.

Forget the nonsense that this is a first step & the government is coming to take your guns - that's never going to happen. Just look at today for what it is, you can't tell me it's a bad thing. It would have been better if it would've been brokered in Congress sure, but this is 2016, what is newly brokered in Congress that both parties agree on any issue nowadays? Virtually nothing.

I hope you are right but the leftist strategy is to slowly chip away at the right to bear arms until we willingly give it up. It will take a few more generations IMHO but it is coming. The pussification and apologies of and from America will continue. We used to not give a shit what any other country thought, now our president will bow to a foreign king.

[ASUG8]

I'll be in the minority here but I give Obama a lot of credit on this & going it alone or doing what he can by executive action. Will what happened today prevent the all-too-common massacres that we now see? Sure it won't. However, there's no way to definitively say either way that it might prevent some, or just one.

The definition of insanity is just repeating failure over & over and expecting a different outcome. The zealots that hide/stand behind the 2nd Amendment & don't want to change a thing and tell you that there is zero that can be done are kidding themselves.

Forget the nonsense that this is a first step & the government is coming to take your guns - that's never going to happen. Just look at today for what it is, you can't tell me it's a bad thing. It would have been better if it would've been brokered in Congress sure, but this is 2016, what is newly brokered in Congress that both parties agree on any issue nowadays? Virtually nothing.

The ideal situation would be to get rid of the lobbyists and impose term limits for Congressmen so they don't get too cozy with each other, but that's never going to happen.

I think most gun owners don't object to background checks, mental health checks, etc. to minimize some of the irrational and violent gun use. Who's going to evaluate who's crazy? The government? How? Arguably many ex-military who've served in war zones are huge gun zealots who could suffer from PTSD - you going to confiscate their weapons? Also, how do you keep your kid from taking your gun to school aside from having responsible parents with gun safes? And how do you ever police the black market where so many of these stolen guns end up in a shooting?

I don't have the answers, but I'm curious to see what comes of this. I think not much.

[GannonFan]

I'll be in the minority here but I give Obama a lot of credit on this & going it alone or doing what he can by executive action. Will what happened today prevent the all-too-common massacres that we now see? Sure it won't. However, there's no way to definitively say either way that it might prevent some, or just one.

The definition of insanity is just repeating failure over & over and expecting a different outcome. The zealots that hide/stand behind the 2nd Amendment & don't want to change a thing and tell you that there is zero that can be done are kidding themselves.

Forget the nonsense that this is a first step & the government is coming to take your guns - that's never going to happen. Just look at today for what it is, you can't tell me it's a bad thing. It would have been better if it would've been brokered in Congress sure, but this is 2016, what is newly brokered in Congress that both parties agree on any issue nowadays? Virtually nothing.

I have no problem with Obama taking this step - I think it at least pushes the discussion on gun control/gun safety laws further down the road, and we were almost to the point of literally having to do just anything to at least start the momentum. However, I don't give him that much credit. For starters, what did this cost him to do this? He's hardly putting his neck out there with these actions. In addition, as he and even you say, this may amount to never saving a single life because it really is that small of a step. I think it's great that he did something, but in the end, I can't give him a lot of credit because what he did was so very little.

[Wedgebuster]

America is afraid, divided, paranoid...

Guns just make us feel better, the bigger the gun/magazine the more warm and fuzzy we become.

And now o'bummer wants to take away our warm fuzzy bunnies.

[Grizalltheway]

I have a much bigger problem with HOW he is doing it than what he is doing. In an executive orders purest form, it is nothing short of a monarchy. "I King Obama hereby proclaim that all _______________." Fill in the blank and just because one man says it it becomes law? It really strikes me terribly wrong and I could give a shit less how many presidents did it before and after, we need to fix it.

Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review, and may be struck down if deemed by the courts to be unsupported by statute or the Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

Either way, this becomes yet another economic stimulus package directed toward the gun lobby. Ammo and AR-15's will be flying off the shelves in the coming week.

"Obama 'best gun salesman' on Earth: Stock picker

Louis Navellier, known for his stock selection prowess, is betting on two firearms companies that have been swept up in a nationwide buying frenzy sparked by Americans concerned about President Barack Obama's intentions regarding gun control and their safety following terrorist attacks in San Bernardino, California, and Paris late last year.

Navellier said he owns Sturm Ruger and Smith & Wesson, which were both sharply higher Tuesday morning, ahead of Obama's planned formal announcement about executive actions he wants to take to restrict gun sales.

"Mr. Obama is the best gun salesman on the planet," the chairman of Navellier Associates told CNBC's "Squawk Box," adding that he has not gotten any pushback from investors concerned about profiting from gun stocks. "They just want us to make money."...

....Sturm Ruger was up nearly 90 percent in the past 12 months based on Monday's close.

....Smith & Wesson was up about 165 percent in the past 12 months based on Monday's close......"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/05/obama-be ... icker.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

"IN 33-MINUTE SPEECH ON GUNS, OBAMA REFERS TO HIMSELF 76 TIMES"
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=44989" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

World's greatest gun salesman and the world's biggest narcissist...

[AZGrizFan]

Can't the next president just sign an executive order reversing THIS executive order?

[CID1990]

I am frankly in awe of the political brilliance of the White House .... picking 2nd Amendment fights less than a year from a presidential election in a country where a clear majority supports gun rights

Klukker assassins my ass - the secret service had better keep an eye on Hillary because at this point you know she'd like to kill him

[dbackjon]

I am frankly in awe of the political brilliance of the White House .... picking 2nd Amendment fights less than a year from a presidential election in a country where a clear majority supports gun rights

Klukker assassins my ass - the secret service had better keep an eye on Hillary because at this point you know she'd like to kill him

Yet 80% + support everything he put into his EO. Overwhelming support for expanded background checks.


Not sure many (other than a few ) support repealing the 2nd Amendment.

[BDKJMU]

I am frankly in awe of the political brilliance of the White House .... picking 2nd Amendment fights less than a year from a presidential election in a country where a clear majority supports gun rights

Klukker assassins my ass - the secret service had better keep an eye on Hillary because at this point you know she'd like to kill him

Yet 80% + support everything he put into his EO. Overwhelming support for expanded background checks.


Not sure many (other than a few ) support repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Link.

[dbackjon]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mos ... nd-checks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Consistently, at least 70 percent of Americans said they favor background checks. Often, far more do. In October, a CBS News/New York Times poll found that 92 percent of Americans — including 87 percent of Republicans — favor background checks for all gun buyers.1