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Re: Biggest Presidential Liars

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dbackjon wrote:
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I love the way it drives you moonbats sh1t-crazy that history doesn't remember Reagan that way outside of your echo chamber

Thanks to a coordinated and expensive PR machine. But don't worry, soon everyone but the far right wackos will properly revile Reagan
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Re: Biggest Presidential Liars

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Baldy wrote:
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Um... you do realize
That entire first page is things he tried to pass but were rejected by congress

You know that right..?
Promise to take the trash out.
Fail to take the trash out.

Was it a broken promise or a lie??? :?

:suspicious:
Well without a doubt he did not deliver... (obviously)
But trying to pass the things he said he was going to try and pass - he sure did try

Where he failed was to unite congress (Like Bill Clinton successfully did)
All Obama ended up succeeding in doing was dividing congress further and deeper

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Re: Biggest Presidential Liars

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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote:
Promise to take the trash out.
Fail to take the trash out.

Was it a broken promise or a lie??? :?

:suspicious:
Well without a doubt he did not deliver... (obviously)
But trying to pass the things he said he was going to try and pass - he sure did try

Where he failed was to unite congress (Like Bill Clinton successfully did)
All Obama ended up succeeding in doing was dividing congress further and deeper

:nod:
that's about it in a nutshell

he might actually be pretty honest - in fact I believe he is

if this thread was about the most divisive and petulant presidents then he'd easily be top 5
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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Thanks to a coordinated and expensive PR machine. But don't worry, soon everyone but the far right wackos will properly revile Reagan
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This sums it up perfectly. :nod: :thumb: :lol:
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It's always fun to go back and read up on the Reagan Legacy Project and the facts (somebody mentioned facts, right) about his record. And this doesn't even mention Iran-Contra, providing amnesty to illegals, the freeing of the mentally ill, James Watt and the environment, etc.
Reagan's average approval rating during the eight years that he was in office was nothing spectacular - 52.8 percent, according to Gallup. That places the 40th president not just behind Kennedy, Clinton and Dwight Eisenhower, but also Lyndon Johnson and George H.W. Bush, neither of whom are talked up as candidates for Mount Rushmore.......

At the height of the Iran-Contra scandal, nearly one-third of Americans wanted him to resign........


In the early 1990s, shortly after Reagan left office, several polls found even the much-maligned Jimmy Carter to be more popular. Only since Reagan's 1994 disclosure that he had Alzheimer's disease - along with lobbying efforts by conservatives, such as Grover Norquist's Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, which pushed to rename Washington's National Airport for the president - has his popularity steadily climbed...........

The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 was, at the time, the largest peacetime tax increase in U.S. history.......

Ultimately, Reagan signed measures that increased federal taxes every year of his two-term presidency except the first and the last............

While wealthy Americans benefitted from Reagan's tax policies, blue-collar Americans paid a higher percentage of their income in taxes when Reagan left office than when he came in...........

his real contributions to the end of the Cold War were his willingness to negotiate arms reductions with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and his encouragement of Gorbachev as a domestic reformer. Indeed, a USA Today poll taken four days after the fall of the Berlin Wall found that 43 percent of Americans credited Gorbachev, while only 14 percent cited Reagan...............

This rhetorical flourish didn't stop the 40th president from increasing the federal government's size by every possible measure during his eight years in office...........

Federal spending grew by an average of 2.5 percent a year, adjusted for inflation, while Reagan was president. The national debt exploded, increasing from about $700 billion to nearly $3 trillion...........
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But yea...let's remember the dude who said government was the problem and name a bunch of government shit after him... :rofl:

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Well without a doubt he did not deliver... (obviously)
But trying to pass the things he said he was going to try and pass - he sure did try

Where he failed was to unite congress (Like Bill Clinton successfully did)
All Obama ended up succeeding in doing was dividing congress further and deeper

:nod:
that's about it in a nutshell

he might actually be pretty honest - in fact I believe he is

if this thread was about the most divisive and petulant presidents then he'd easily be top 5

Rubio is the Republican Obama
Petulance and divisiveness are his cornerstones
combined with an air of self entitlement and vast inexperience

This country cannot have another Obama (Rubio)

:coffee:
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
that's about it in a nutshell

he might actually be pretty honest - in fact I believe he is

if this thread was about the most divisive and petulant presidents then he'd easily be top 5

Rubio is the Republican Obama
Petulance and divisiveness are his cornerstones
combined with an air of self entitlement and vast inexperience

This country cannot have another Obama (Rubio)

:coffee:
Racism duly noted. :coffee:
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Re: Biggest Presidential Liars

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dbackjon wrote:LOL - Reagan is one of the worst Presidents in history.

Corrupt
Treasonous
Immoral
Ruined our economy
You do realize that the same could be said for FDR, Kennedy, LBJ, etc. What you condemn and what you're willing to forgive typically depends on ideology.
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SDHornet wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Rubio is the Republican Obama
Petulance and divisiveness are his cornerstones
combined with an air of self entitlement and vast inexperience

This country cannot have another Obama (Rubio)

:coffee:
Racism duly noted. :coffee:
Oh! And he's Cuban and a Lawyer

:ohno:

F*ck me if that isn't the bottom of the slime bowl
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