Who cares if Obama attends Scalia's funeral?

[CAA Flagship]

Funny, it's not in the top 5 in ANY of the links provided by Flaggy. You know which state IS routinely in the top 5?

Texas.

So where are we at?
We started at "the most successful state" and have backpedaled to "Its in the top 5 in every study and number one on several". I think the next step will be a change of the word "every".
This is likely a 10 step process. Be patient.

[Ibanez]

We're still benefiting from FDR's policies to this day. Was he perfect? No. But he understood the importance of investing in infrastructure and keeping the oligarchs in check.

Holy shit, that's rich. Benefiting from FDR's policies? It's FDR's policies that have this country under a crippling debt load. And like the poster above said, he was the biggest oligarch in the past 100 years.

I'm not so sure about that. During FDRs administration we saw the formation of the SEC, FCIC, FDIC, FHA (ok, maybe not lately), TVA. We saw the Glass–Steagall Act and the repeal of Prohibition. The CCC and WPA got people working. Social Security isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Later generations have ruined Social Security, not FDR.

FDRs policies were right for the time. What was done after him can't really be his fault. Republicans expanded some of his programs (namely Ike).

[AZGrizFan]

Holy shit, that's rich. Benefiting from FDR's policies? It's FDR's policies that have this country under a crippling debt load. And like the poster above said, he was the biggest oligarch in the past 100 years.

I'm not so sure about that. During FDRs administration we saw the formation of the SEC, FCIC, FDIC, FHA (ok, maybe not lately), TVA. We saw the Glass–Steagall Act and the repeal of Prohibition. The CCC and WPA got people working. Social Security isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Later generations have ruined Social Security, not FDR.

FDRs policies were right for the time. What was done after him can't really be his fault. Republicans expanded some of his programs (namely Ike).

He created the concept of entitlements. Fuck him. The rest of that shit is just window dressing.

[Ibanez]

I'm not so sure about that. During FDRs administration we saw the formation of the SEC, FCIC, FDIC, FHA (ok, maybe not lately), TVA. We saw the Glass–Steagall Act and the repeal of Prohibition. The CCC and WPA got people working. Social Security isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Later generations have ruined Social Security, not FDR.

FDRs policies were right for the time. What was done after him can't really be his fault. Republicans expanded some of his programs (namely Ike).

He created the concept of entitlements. Fuck him. The rest of that shit is just window dressing.

He didn't create the concept of entitlements. They existed before him. He just implemented a limited state of welfare during an economically devastating period in our history. IIRC, most of the New Deal programs were either repealed, ruled unconstitutional, or just ended. Out of approx. 43 programs, about 14 or 15 remain. The few that remain that are commonly linked to the "welfare state", like Food Stamps and Social Security, have been abused by the left.

I don't know, I don't think FDR was bad simply because he was a Democrat.

[houndawg]

I'm not so sure about that. During FDRs administration we saw the formation of the SEC, FCIC, FDIC, FHA (ok, maybe not lately), TVA. We saw the Glass–Steagall Act and the repeal of Prohibition. The CCC and WPA got people working. Social Security isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Later generations have ruined Social Security, not FDR.

FDRs policies were right for the time. What was done after him can't really be his fault. Republicans expanded some of his programs (namely Ike).

He created the concept of entitlements. **** him. The rest of that **** is just window dressing.

Thag smash smart guy head with rock.

[AZGrizFan]

He created the concept of entitlements. Fuck him. The rest of that shit is just window dressing.

He didn't create the concept of entitlements. They existed before him. He just implemented a limited state of welfare during an economically devastating period in our history. IIRC, most of the New Deal programs were either repealed, ruled unconstitutional, or just ended. Out of approx. 43 programs, about 14 or 15 remain. The few that remain that are commonly linked to the "welfare state", like Food Stamps and Social Security, have been abused by the left.

I don't know, I don't think FDR was bad simply because he was a Democrat.

I never said anything about him being a democrat. And that's 14 or 15 too many.

[Ibanez]

He didn't create the concept of entitlements. They existed before him. He just implemented a limited state of welfare during an economically devastating period in our history. IIRC, most of the New Deal programs were either repealed, ruled unconstitutional, or just ended. Out of approx. 43 programs, about 14 or 15 remain. The few that remain that are commonly linked to the "welfare state", like Food Stamps and Social Security, have been abused by the left.

I don't know, I don't think FDR was bad simply because he was a Democrat.

I never said anything about him being a democrat. And that's 14 or 15 too many.

Really? What's your beef with the SEC? Or the Tennessee Valley Authority? Fair Labor Standards Act? You don't like Federal holidays?

[kalm]

He created the concept of entitlements. **** him. The rest of that **** is just window dressing.

Thag smash smart guy head with rock.

This.

[Ivytalk]

I never said anything about him being a democrat. And that's 14 or 15 too many.

Really? What's your beef with the SEC? Or the Tennessee Valley Authority? Fair Labor Standards Act? You don't like Federal holidays?

He prefers the ACC.

[BDKJMU]

Holy ****, that's rich. Benefiting from FDR's policies? It's FDR's policies that have this country under a crippling debt load. And like the poster above said, he was the biggest oligarch in the past 100 years.

I'm not so sure about that. During FDRs administration we saw the formation of the SEC, FCIC, FDIC, FHA (ok, maybe not lately), TVA. We saw the Glass–Steagall Act and the repeal of Prohibition. The CCC and WPA got people working. Social Security isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Later generations have ruined Social Security, not FDR.

FDRs policies were right for the time. What was done after him can't really be his fault. Republicans expanded some of his programs (namely Ike).

Set up like a Ponzi scheme it is..

No, it was set up from the outset in flawed way- by allowing people in retirement to draw out more than they/their spouse/employer paid in...

[DSUrocks07]

You sure about 'dat?



Aren't you a fisherman?

Yep. Posted an article in the fishing thread on retrofitting the dams for anadramous fish passage soon. They should have done it from the start. Progress has its downside too.

Isn't that called regress?

[AZGrizFan]

Really? What's your beef with the SEC? Or the Tennessee Valley Authority? Fair Labor Standards Act? You don't like Federal holidays?

He prefers the ACC.

[AZGrizFan]

I never said anything about him being a democrat. And that's 14 or 15 too many.

Really? What's your beef with the SEC? Or the Tennessee Valley Authority? Fair Labor Standards Act? You don't like Federal holidays?

Good lord, man. How long are you going to continue this?

[Ibanez]

Really? What's your beef with the SEC? Or the Tennessee Valley Authority? Fair Labor Standards Act? You don't like Federal holidays?

Good lord, man. How long are you going to continue this?

I've got time to kill.


And I enjoy drilling down into broad statements like yours.

[AZGrizFan]

Good lord, man. How long are you going to continue this?

I've got time to kill.


And I enjoy drilling down into broad statements like yours.

Go pick on Chizzy's broad, unsubstantiated statements for a while. I've got work to do.

[Ibanez]

I've got time to kill.


And I enjoy drilling down into broad statements like yours.

Go pick on Chizzy's broad, unsubstantiated statements for a while. I've got work to do.

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

[AZGrizFan]

Go pick on Chizzy's broad, unsubstantiated statements for a while. I've got work to do.

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

[CAA Flagship]

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

[Ibanez]

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

You just Dodge, dip, duck, dive and dodge instead of answering a question.

[Ibanez]

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

I figured you would be for G/S, since it's repeal is widely accredited to the Great Recession.

[GannonFan]

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

I figured you would be for G/S, since it's repeal is widely accredited to the Great Recession.

Just being widely accredited to the Great Recession doesn't make it so. Glass-Steagal wouldn't have covered the banks that did go under - Bear Stearns, Lehman, and wouldn't have impacted the issues at Merrill Lynch and AIG and Fannie and Freddie. I mean, it sounds all well and good to point to a piece of legislation as the cause of the downfall, but it doesn't make it true. No matter how many times Warren-parrots shout it out.

[Ibanez]

I figured you would be for G/S, since it's repeal is widely accredited to the Great Recession.

Just being widely accredited to the Great Recession doesn't make it so. Glass-Steagal wouldn't have covered the banks that did go under - Bear Stearns, Lehman, and wouldn't have impacted the issues at Merrill Lynch and AIG and Fannie and Freddie. I mean, it sounds all well and good to point to a piece of legislation as the cause of the downfall, but it doesn't make it true. No matter how many times Warren-parrots shout it out.

It was more than banks going under. The repeal of G/S allowed those mega banks to exist. To me, it kind matters.

[houndawg]

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

You just Dodge, dip, duck, dive and dodge instead of answering a question.

And dance and divert..

[Grizalltheway]

I'd say. I can't wait to see what problem you have with the SEC or TVA or Glass-Steagal. Get to it, Thomas.

Re: Chizzles Abortion post, I almost posted about it but lost interest. Same with his BS about Washington being the best for business.

IT told you, I prefer the ACC. And as a banker, you ask me what I have against Glass-Steagal?

I thought you were a credit union-er, not a banker?

[GannonFan]

Just being widely accredited to the Great Recession doesn't make it so. Glass-Steagal wouldn't have covered the banks that did go under - Bear Stearns, Lehman, and wouldn't have impacted the issues at Merrill Lynch and AIG and Fannie and Freddie. I mean, it sounds all well and good to point to a piece of legislation as the cause of the downfall, but it doesn't make it true. No matter how many times Warren-parrots shout it out.

It was more than banks going under.

But it wasn't about banks operating in both spheres of Wall Street and Main Street at the same time that brought it about, hence the red herring that is Glass-Steagal.