Even the lefties don't defend Obama anymore.

[Chizzang]

After 8 years in office not many presidents are beloved...
In fact doesn't it typically swing to the other party after 8 years - pretty regularly..?

[Baldy]

I don't need to read the thread again. I know the answer.

I'm dying to see if you do.

OK I'll answer your question about U3 and U6:

Nothing!



(Let me know if you need help understanding why this is funny )

Oh no, you have given me plenty of laughs in this thread. Thank you

[kalm]

OK I'll answer your question about U3 and U6:

Nothing!



(Let me know if you need help understanding why this is funny )

Oh no, you have given me plenty of laughs in this thread. Thank you

I'm sure I did, and you're welcome!

[GannonFan]

Heard on the radio that the vast majority (I think he said 80%, but don't quote me on that) are minimum wage jobs. Winning.

Remember, Obama supported the TPP which, despite Gannnonfan's suggestions, doesn't appear to be a real job creator, domestically.

Please supply the quote for completeness. I'm sure you have it, just checking.

[AZGrizFan]

A thought occurred to me this morning as I was reading the latest unemployment figures (242k new jobs, 4.9% unemployment rate). In the past, when such wonderful economic news was released by the Obama administration, the CS usual suspects like AnalJelly and a few other would post the figures on this site as irrefutable proof that Obama Jesus was making everything OK in America again.

Now, they don't even try. It's all bullshit and they know it.

Heard on the radio that the vast majority (I think he said 80%, but don't quote me on that) are minimum wage jobs. Winning.

Hence the desire to raise minimum wage so drastically!

[SDHornet]

Heard on the radio that the vast majority (I think he said 80%, but don't quote me on that) are minimum wage jobs. Winning.

Hence the desire to raise minimum wage so drastically!

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

[CAA Flagship]

Hence the desire to raise minimum wage so drastically!

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

Don't count on that. The subsidies are what buys the Democrat Party votes. The bottom x% will always get something for nothing.

[kalm]

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

Don't count on that. The subsidies are what buys the Democrat Party votes. The bottom x% will always get something for nothing.

This. Give 'em $15/hour and the next thing you know they'll want a raise and a retirement plan.

Greedy bastards....

[houndawg]

Hence the desire to raise minimum wage so drastically!

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

That's kind of the idea.

[SDHornet]

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

That's kind of the idea.

You do realize the cost of living will also go up right? Raising the min wage will do nothing...although raising it is fine by me. I have no issue with it.

[Baldy]

Don't count on that. The subsidies are what buys the Democrat Party votes. The bottom x% will always get something for nothing.

This. Give 'em $15/hour and the next thing you know they'll want a raise and a retirement plan.

Greedy bastards....

Do you expect the government to provide them with a retirement plan as well?

[kalm]

That's kind of the idea.

You do realize the cost of living will also go up right? Raising the min wage will do nothing...although raising it is fine by me. I have no issue with it.

Spoiler: show

I know it's a FB meme. Shut up Ibanez!

[Baldy]

You do realize the cost of living will also go up right? Raising the min wage will do nothing...although raising it is fine by me. I have no issue with it.

Spoiler: show

I know it's a FB meme. Shut up Ibanez!

Why Australia is the third most expensive place to buy a house

IMF confirms what most Australian home buyers know already: only Belgium and Canada are more expensive

The IMF today revealed what most Australian home buyers already know – our housing market is among the most expensive in the world. The IMF’s Global Housing Watch has Australia ranked as the third least affordable place in the world to buy a house – behind only Belgium and Canada.

The data, which from now on will be updated quarterly, also charts the price of housing across the world. Its index shows the stark impact of the Great Recession which saw housing prices on average across the advance economic world fall up to 20%:

Context.

[BDKJMU]

You do realize the cost of living will also go up right? Raising the min wage will do nothing...although raising it is fine by me. I have no issue with it.

Spoiler: show

I know it's a FB meme. Shut up Ibanez!

That poster is meaningless because the AVERAGE minimum wage in the US is a lot higher than $7.25- 30 states have a minimum wage higher than the fed $7.25, and even in states where it is $7.25 most McDonalds workers make more. The poster is meaningless unless you compared the avg wages of McDonalds workers in the US to those in Australia.

[BDKJMU]

When the left calls for minimum wage increases you never hear them called for a tiered system like in Europe (ex one level for 15-17 year olds, one for 18-20, and one for 21 and over), and you never see a tiered system among any of the states that implement higher minimum wages than the fed level . Should a 15 year old and 35 year old have the same minimum wage? Of course not. Teenagers living at home with mommy & daddy working their 1st no to low skill job(s) don't need to be treated the same as someone in their 20s-30s.

[Baldy]

When the left calls for minimum wage increases you never hear them called for a tiered system like in Europe (ex one level for 15-17 year olds, one for 18-20, and one for 21 and over), and you never see a tiered system among any of the states that implement higher minimum wages than the fed level . Should a 15 year old and 35 year old have the same minimum wage? Of course not. Teenagers living at home with mommy & daddy working their 1st no to low skill job(s) don't need to be treated the same as someone in their 20s-30s.

If only the world was as simple as a failed meme.

The minimum wage in Australia is tiered depending on age. $17.29 AUD per hour is the highest ($12.90 USD per hour according to today's exchange rate), and it is for someone over the age of 20. The lowest is a little over $6.00 AUD for people under 16, with incremental increases between 16 and 20.

Here is a little help for the ones who don't really understand the issue:

Public Data Holds the Key to Understanding the Minimum Wage Issue

Interesting exerpt:

What’s more, there are multiple misconceptions about comparing the minimum wage across countries. The minimum wage in Australia, for example, is age dependent. For an 18-year-old worker (remember, most minimum wage earners in the U.S. are 16- to 24-year-olds), the minimum wage is 11.52 Australian dollars ($10.20). For a first-year apprentice, on the other hand, the minimum wage is only AU$9.28 ($8.22).

Consumer prices are also lower in the U.S. than Australia, so after adjusting for prices, the purchasing power equivalent of the Australian minimum wage for 18-year-olds is only $7.16 — about 9 cents less than the U.S. minimum wage. Even currency-adjusted comparisons are flawed — the gap is much smaller when you take purchasing power into account, and it’s almost non-existent for young workers.

Oh, to be like the Aussies.

[AZGrizFan]

Look on the bright side, at $15 an hour a lot of them will make to much to qualify for gubmint subsidies.

That's kind of the idea.

Except all they're doing is taking LESS hours at MORE pay to keep income the same, and still qualify for subsidies. Great business plan.

[YoUDeeMan]

kalm's dissertation on wages just got shredded.

[AZGrizFan]

kalm's dissertation on wages just got shredded.

The concept is just too nuanced.

[kalm]

kalm's dissertation on wages just got shredded.

What dissertation?

I'm on record as supporting a stratified min wage similar to what BDK posted. I've also pointed out that the cost of living in Redmond vs Cheney should be a factor.

I'm sorry if you took the meme I posted (and admitted to) seriously, or are we going in the way back time machine to Haiti here?

[SDHornet]

kalm's dissertation on wages just got shredded.

The concept is just too nuanced.

[SDHornet]

kalm's dissertation on wages just got shredded.

What dissertation?

I'm on record as supporting a stratified min wage similar to what BDK posted. I've also pointed out that the cost of living in Redmond vs Cheney should be a factor.

I'm sorry if you took the meme I posted (and admitted to) seriously, or are we going in the way back time machine to Haiti here?

You live in an age when claiming "I'm great" and "everyone loves me" and "I the best negotiator there is" is a qualifying statement to be POTUS, and sadly garner a majority vote in conk primaries. Your FB meme' is equivalent to a 150 page research paper on the min wage matter.


But yeah it still got shredded.

[kalm]

What dissertation?

I'm on record as supporting a stratified min wage similar to what BDK posted. I've also pointed out that the cost of living in Redmond vs Cheney should be a factor.

I'm sorry if you took the meme I posted (and admitted to) seriously, or are we going in the way back time machine to Haiti here?

You live in an age when claiming "I'm great" and "everyone loves me" and "I the best negotiator there is" is a qualifying statement to be POTUS, and sadly garner a majority vote in conk primaries. Your FB meme' is equivalent to a 150 page research paper on the min wage matter.


But yeah it still got shredded.

So then my spoiler admission went right over your head too. Congrats!

[SDHornet]

You live in an age when claiming "I'm great" and "everyone loves me" and "I the best negotiator there is" is a qualifying statement to be POTUS, and sadly garner a majority vote in conk primaries. Your FB meme' is equivalent to a 150 page research paper on the min wage matter.


But yeah it still got shredded.

So then my spoiler admission went right over your head too. Congrats!

I don't read spoilers....

...I'm too lazy to make that extra click.

[kalm]

So then my spoiler admission went right over your head too. Congrats!

I don't read spoilers....

...I'm too lazy to make that extra click.