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dbackjon wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I have 4 bedrooms and 6 shitters. :?
Well, since you are so full of shit it is prudent to keep one behind every other door! :nod: :nod: :nod:
Dback, he's counting the front and back yard.
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I have 4 bedrooms and 6 shitters. :?
6 full bathrooms?
3 full, 3 halves.

Top floor - 3 bedrooms/2 full bathrooms (none joining)
Main floor - 1 Master bedroom/1 full Master bathroom & 2 half bathrooms
Basement - 1 big bar/1 half bathroom

Also have 1 acre of land (urinal)
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: 6 full bathrooms?
3 full, 3 halves.

Top floor - 3 bedrooms/2 full bathrooms (none joining)
Main floor - 1 Master bedroom/1 full Master bathroom & 2 half bathrooms
Basement - 1 big bar/1 half bathroom

Also have 1 acre of land (urinal)
That makes sense...
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: 3 full, 3 halves.

Top floor - 3 bedrooms/2 full bathrooms (none joining)
Main floor - 1 Master bedroom/1 full Master bathroom & 2 half bathrooms
Basement - 1 big bar/1 half bathroom

Also have 1 acre of land (urinal)
That makes sense...
One of the half bathrooms on the main floor is a waste. One is in the mudroom next to the garage. The one that doesn't make sense is in the family room just outside the Master Bedroom (it shares a wall with the Master Bathroom). It would make a better closet. :ohno:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That makes sense...
One of the half bathrooms on the main floor is a waste. One is in the mudroom next to the garage. The one that doesn't make sense is in the family room just outside the Master Bedroom (it shares a wall with the Master Bathroom). It would make a better closet. :ohno:
How old is your house? There is a tract builder here that did some crazy things like that.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Well, since you are so full of shit it is prudent to keep one behind every other door! :nod: :nod: :nod:
Dback, he's counting the front and back yard.
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: One of the half bathrooms on the main floor is a waste. One is in the mudroom next to the garage. The one that doesn't make sense is in the family room just outside the Master Bedroom (it shares a wall with the Master Bathroom). It would make a better closet. :ohno:
How old is your house? There is a tract builder here that did some crazy things like that.
I think it was built in 1983
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: How old is your house? There is a tract builder here that did some crazy things like that.
I think it was built in 1983
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Let's get this back on track. I WAS TRENDING! :lol:


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/mcdonald ... utomation/
Protestors may want to stop by the McDonald’s at Adams and Wells to meet their replacement — an automated McCafé kiosk.
The store, which is anticipating Chicago’s minimum-wage increase to $13 an hour by 2019, is testing out coffee kiosks in the restaurant instead of having employees serve it. The kiosk features a touch-pad for ordering and paying. The screen also prompts customers to answer questions about their kiosk experience, giving the impression this is something that could be adopted as an alternative to hiring. This kind of automation, which replaces a human employee with technology, is one of the unintended consequences of Chicago’s minimum-wage increase.

It may not just be a coffee machine either. Other McDonald’s locations have used self-service kiosks with touch-screens for paying. And while self-serve kiosks don’t seem too unusual, San Francisco-based Momentum Machines has created a robotic hamburger-making machine the company claims can produce 400 high-quality burgers in an hour with minimal human supervision.
Automation is the way to go. It's the future. These people will have to find other menial jobs, or find some way to get an education.
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Ibanez wrote:Let's get this back on track. I WAS TRENDING! :lol:


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/mcdonald ... utomation/
Protestors may want to stop by the McDonald’s at Adams and Wells to meet their replacement — an automated McCafé kiosk.
The store, which is anticipating Chicago’s minimum-wage increase to $13 an hour by 2019, is testing out coffee kiosks in the restaurant instead of having employees serve it. The kiosk features a touch-pad for ordering and paying. The screen also prompts customers to answer questions about their kiosk experience, giving the impression this is something that could be adopted as an alternative to hiring. This kind of automation, which replaces a human employee with technology, is one of the unintended consequences of Chicago’s minimum-wage increase.

It may not just be a coffee machine either. Other McDonald’s locations have used self-service kiosks with touch-screens for paying. And while self-serve kiosks don’t seem too unusual, San Francisco-based Momentum Machines has created a robotic hamburger-making machine the company claims can produce 400 high-quality burgers in an hour with minimal human supervision.
Automation is the way to go. It's the future. These people will have to find other menial jobs, or find some way to get an education.
I won't worry until the robots go on strike for $15.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Let's get this back on track. I WAS TRENDING! :lol:


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/mcdonald ... utomation/



Automation is the way to go. It's the future. These people will have to find other menial jobs, or find some way to get an education.
I won't worry until the robots go on strike for $15.
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89Hen wrote:BTW, not that $429,000 isn't a lot of money, but it's really not as much as you think around here when $1,000,000 gets you this...

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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Size of the house is irrelevant. It's a bedroom to bathroom ratio. The amenities that a house offers would explain more bathrooms than bedrooms. Pool houses, theaters, extra garages, etc...

The norm is something like 2 bed 1 bath. 3 bed 1.5 or 2 bath. But it's odd to see more baths then bedrooms, unless you have a pool house which I'm assuming is the case. And I say this as some one that has appraised real estate from 2000-2007. You normally don't have more bathrooms than bedrooms.
In high end homes you do, at least now. 2007 is ancient history, remember :nod:
:nod: I've seen homes around here with 6 BR and 8 BA.
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BDKJMU wrote:
It seems like I'm the only one who ever brings up the idea of a tiered by age min wage like they have in some (all?) European countries..You could have say 3 min wages one for under 18, one for 18-21 and one for over 21. Or whatever ages you wanted to plug in.
I've brought it up several times. I have to pay my own 15 year old son $9.47 an hour and believe me...he ain't worth it... :coffee:
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We're talking about minimum wage, not McMansions! :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
It seems like I'm the only one who ever brings up the idea of a tiered by age min wage like they have in some (all?) European countries..You could have say 3 min wages one for under 18, one for 18-21 and one for over 21. Or whatever ages you wanted to plug in.
I've brought it up several times. I have to pay my own 15 year old son $9.47 an hour and believe me...he ain't worth it... :coffee:
Can't you deduct living expenses? 8-)
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Ivytalk wrote::hijack:

We're talking about minimum wage, not McMansions! :ohno:
Thanks, counselor. My feeble attempt to right the ship has been ignored.
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Ibanez wrote:Let's get this back on track. I WAS TRENDING! :lol:


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/mcdonald ... utomation/
Protestors may want to stop by the McDonald’s at Adams and Wells to meet their replacement — an automated McCafé kiosk.
The store, which is anticipating Chicago’s minimum-wage increase to $13 an hour by 2019, is testing out coffee kiosks in the restaurant instead of having employees serve it. The kiosk features a touch-pad for ordering and paying. The screen also prompts customers to answer questions about their kiosk experience, giving the impression this is something that could be adopted as an alternative to hiring. This kind of automation, which replaces a human employee with technology, is one of the unintended consequences of Chicago’s minimum-wage increase.

It may not just be a coffee machine either. Other McDonald’s locations have used self-service kiosks with touch-screens for paying. And while self-serve kiosks don’t seem too unusual, San Francisco-based Momentum Machines has created a robotic hamburger-making machine the company claims can produce 400 high-quality burgers in an hour with minimal human supervision.
Automation is the way to go. It's the future. These people will have to find other menial jobs, or find some way to get an education.

This has very little to do with employee salary and more to do with the problems with McCafe. The franchisees hate it. Takes up too much time and space for too little return. McDonald's would be working on this regardless of whether there employees were making $3 or $15 an hour, especially in cities where real estate costs are a bigger concern than labor costs.
At our work, we have an automated coffee machine - can churn out a variety of drinks. Nothing as good as a coffee shop, but on par with what McDonalds serves.
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
It seems like I'm the only one who ever brings up the idea of a tiered by age min wage like they have in some (all?) European countries..You could have say 3 min wages one for under 18, one for 18-21 and one for over 21. Or whatever ages you wanted to plug in.
I've brought it up several times. I have to pay my own 15 year old son $9.47 an hour and believe me...he ain't worth it... :coffee:
Sounds like a parenting issue :kisswink:
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Let's get this back on track. I WAS TRENDING! :lol:


https://www.illinoispolicy.org/mcdonald ... utomation/



Automation is the way to go. It's the future. These people will have to find other menial jobs, or find some way to get an education.

This has very little to do with employee salary and more to do with the problems with McCafe. The franchisees hate it. Takes up too much time and space for too little return. McDonald's would be working on this regardless of whether there employees were making $3 or $15 an hour, especially in cities where real estate costs are a bigger concern than labor costs.
At our work, we have an automated coffee machine - can churn out a variety of drinks. Nothing as good as a coffee shop, but on par with what McDonalds serves.
Did you read the article?
The store, which is anticipating Chicago’s minimum-wage increase to $13 an hour by 2019, is testing out coffee kiosks in the restaurant instead of having employees serve it.
It has everything to do with the move towards more automation as a response to growing technology and increased wages.
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

This has very little to do with employee salary and more to do with the problems with McCafe. The franchisees hate it. Takes up too much time and space for too little return. McDonald's would be working on this regardless of whether there employees were making $3 or $15 an hour, especially in cities where real estate costs are a bigger concern than labor costs.
At our work, we have an automated coffee machine - can churn out a variety of drinks. Nothing as good as a coffee shop, but on par with what McDonalds serves.
Did you read the article?
The store, which is anticipating Chicago’s minimum-wage increase to $13 an hour by 2019, is testing out coffee kiosks in the restaurant instead of having employees serve it.
It has everything to do with the move towards more automation as a response to growing technology and increased wages.
Yes, I read the article. And I am intelligent enough to know that this technology has been planned long before the minimum wage hike, and that they are using this as a way to blame the minimum wage hike for something they were going to do all along.
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dbackjon wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Did you read the article?

It has everything to do with the move towards more automation as a response to growing technology and increased wages.
Yes, I read the article. And I am intelligent enough to know that this technology has been planned long before the minimum wage hike, and that they are using this as a way to blame the minimum wage hike for something they were going to do all along.
My god, you're a snarky bitch. :roll: 8-)

Automation has existed for decades, but that isn't the point.

The point is, with the strikes and calls for an increase in wage, companies are looking towards either implementing or speeding up the already proposed implementation of automation in direct response to it. It have everything to do with automation as a response to the technology being available and an increase in wages for it's staff.

Screwing around with McDonald's bottom line isn't going to be taken lightly. Nobody is denying that automation wasn't going to increase. It's quite obvious to see the correlation of the increase in the use of the technology and the increase of minimum wage.

Wal-Mart, Target, Sunoco, Royal Farms, 711, etc.. couldn't care any less about the success of the McCafe. It goes beyond McDonald's.

Well, maybe those Wal-marts with an McDonald's. :coffee:
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dbackjon wrote:
kalm wrote:
I've brought it up several times. I have to pay my own 15 year old son $9.47 an hour and believe me...he ain't worth it... :coffee:
Sounds like a parenting issue :kisswink:
It is. I blame his mom for making him soft. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Yes, I read the article. And I am intelligent enough to know that this technology has been planned long before the minimum wage hike, and that they are using this as a way to blame the minimum wage hike for something they were going to do all along.
My god, you're a snarky bitch. :roll: 8-)

Automation has existed for decades, but that isn't the point.

The point is, with the strikes and calls for an increase in wage, companies are looking towards either implementing or speeding up the already proposed implementation of automation in direct response to it. It have everything to do with automation as a response to the technology being available and an increase in wages for it's staff.

Screwing around with McDonald's bottom line isn't going to be taken lightly. Nobody is denying that automation wasn't going to increase. It's quite obvious to see the correlation of the increase in the use of the technology and the increase of minimum wage.

Wal-Mart, Target, Sunoco, Royal Farms, 711, etc.. couldn't care any less about the success of the McCafe. It goes beyond McDonald's.

Well, maybe those Wal-marts with an McDonald's. :coffee:
Agreed. Automation was always inevitable. What's being changed is the priority to get the automation. It was a nice to have project that they could get to when they had time, now it is being pushed up to one of the top things to implement. And not just at McDonald's but at any place that would employ minimum wage workers.

I do like the idea of an age restricted minimum wage. If people are going to be trying to make a living off of a minimum wage, there's no reason to eliminate the truly low level, even seasonal work that can be done by students just looking to make a little money. The person scooping caramel popcorn out of a bin at the store on the boardwalk at the shore doesn't need to make a living wage, they're just there to make a little money and enjoy the view.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
My god, you're a snarky bitch. :roll: 8-)

Automation has existed for decades, but that isn't the point.

The point is, with the strikes and calls for an increase in wage, companies are looking towards either implementing or speeding up the already proposed implementation of automation in direct response to it. It have everything to do with automation as a response to the technology being available and an increase in wages for it's staff.

Screwing around with McDonald's bottom line isn't going to be taken lightly. Nobody is denying that automation wasn't going to increase. It's quite obvious to see the correlation of the increase in the use of the technology and the increase of minimum wage.

Wal-Mart, Target, Sunoco, Royal Farms, 711, etc.. couldn't care any less about the success of the McCafe. It goes beyond McDonald's.

Well, maybe those Wal-marts with an McDonald's. :coffee:
Agreed. Automation was always inevitable. What's being changed is the priority to get the automation. It was a nice to have project that they could get to when they had time, now it is being pushed up to one of the top things to implement. And not just at McDonald's but at any place that would employ minimum wage workers.

I do like the idea of an age restricted minimum wage. If people are going to be trying to make a living off of a minimum wage, there's no reason to eliminate the truly low level, even seasonal work that can be done by students just looking to make a little money. The person scooping caramel popcorn out of a bin at the store on the boardwalk at the shore doesn't need to make a living wage, they're just there to make a little money and enjoy the view.
I agree. But we both know there will be calls of age discrimination and "equal pay for equal work."
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