2016 Republican Primary

[Ibanez]

Cruz is on TV live right now responding to the Lucifer comment. He's fired up!

It's difficult to offer a rebuttal to all of that when you're wearing a suit made of human skin.

[Ibanez]

[93henfan]

Cruz is on TV live right now responding to the Lucifer comment. He's fired up!

It's difficult to offer a rebuttal to all of that when you're wearing a suit made of human skin.

Hah. Good one!

[DSUrocks07]

Donald Trump will likely wind up winning the most primary votes of any GOP presidential candidate in modern history

http://nypost.com/2016/04/27/donald-tru ... p-history/


JSO, please email them how they are wrong. POSTE HASTE!!

PERCENTAGES!

STATISTICS!

MATHS DON'T FAIL ME NAO!!!

That noise you just heard was JSO's head exploding.

#prayforJSO

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[DSUrocks07]

Cruz is on TV live right now responding to the Lucifer comment. He's fired up!

Pastor Ted will get retribution for this assault on religious beliefs.

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[HI54UNI]

When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.
“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2016/04/28 ... in-office/

I may have to rethink my opinion of Cruz if Boehner hates him.......

[Ibanez]

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2016/04/28 ... in-office/

I may have to rethink my opinion of Cruz if Boehner hates him.......

You've got that backwards...

[andy7171]

http://www.stanforddaily.com/2016/04/28 ... in-office/

I may have to rethink my opinion of Cruz if Boehner hates him.......

While I aagree with this thought. When in the hell did they work together? SotH works with a Senator?

And the reverse could be also true.

[Skjellyfetti]

How Trump Killed Reaganism

The minute-to-minute coverage of the 2016 presidential primaries threatens to obscure the larger story: While Sen. Bernie Sanders is pressing former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to move further and faster down the progressive road, Donald Trump is waging and winning the third major revolution in the Republican Party since World War II.

In 1952, the factions favoring Dwight Eisenhower clashed with the fervent supporters of Ohio Sen. Robert Taft. With the victory of Gen. Eisenhower’s “modern Republicanism,” the GOP made its peace with the essentials of the New Deal and with anticommunist internationalism, setting the stage for more than two decades of consensus politics.

Speaking at Yale University’s commencement in 1962, President Kennedy declared that “the central issues of our time relate not to basic clashes of philosophy or ideology but to ways and means of reaching common goals.” The issues between the two parties had become “matters of degree,” he said—the debate concerned the “technical questions” needed to keep a “great economic machinery moving forward.” After taking the U.S. off the gold standard in 1971, President Nixon famously announced: “I am now a Keynesian in economics.”

We know what happened next. The Vietnam War destroyed the Cold War foreign-policy consensus. Stagflation did the same for the Keynesian economic consensus. The rise of the counterculture, the civil-rights movement, feminism and a bevy of social issues broke the duopoly of silence that had largely kept these divisive issues off the public agenda.

With these new concerns, the stage was set for the Reagan Revolution—the remarkable fusion of supply-side economics, anti-Soviet internationalism and social conservatism that framed American politics until Barack Obama’s election. Those ideas dominated the Republican Party until the beginning of the contest for its presidential nomination last year.

Underlying the success of the Reagan fusion was the shift of the white working class—the heart of the New Deal coalition—to the Republican side. Racial, cultural and foreign-policy concerns largely drove this realignment. Economic issues were secondary, which permitted business-oriented Republican elites to dominate their party’s economic agenda with free trade, a welcoming immigration policy and efforts to “reform”—that is, cut—major entitlement programs. As late as George W. Bush’s second term, these concerns remained paramount.

With the onset of the Great Recession, however, the alliance between the white working class and business elites began to fray. Workers blamed trade for the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs, and blamed immigrants for declining wages as well as for rising welfare expenditures and social disorder. Amid rising economic uncertainty, these voters were in no mood to put their remaining sources of economic reassurance—Social Security and Medicare—on the chopping block. “Limited government” meant cutting programs for the undeserving poor, not for working- and middle-class households.

Enter Donald Trump, who proposes to turn Reaganism on its head. Sen. Ted Cruz is right: Mr. Trump is no social conservative. He does indeed espouse “New York values,” especially the Big Apple’s relaxed attitudes on gay and transgender issues. His pro-life sentiments are a day old and an inch deep, and his religious commitments are hard to discern.

Nor is Mr. Trump an internationalist. He rejects U.S. alliances and commitments as unaffordable burdens, and he regards Russia’s Vladimir Putin as a kindred spirit. He espouses the spirit if not (yet) the letter of Charles Lindbergh’s motto: America First.

In economics, Mr. Trump rejects current trade treaties as bad bargains struck by inept U.S. negotiators and paints immigration as an assault on American workers and society itself. He doesn’t appear to care about the budget deficit and rejects cuts to Social Security and Medicare. In a rare bow to Republican orthodoxy, he has proposed a deep tax cut, but it is hardly at the center of his agenda. Few take it seriously.

In President Reagan’s first inaugural address, he declared that “In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” That isn’t Mr. Trump’s view; he opposes not big government, but rather “stupid” government, presenting himself as the cure for stupidity.

Nor is he what the conservative movement dubs a “constitutionalist.” How could he be, when he seems to believe that the U.S. government has at most one branch, whose powers he views even more expansively than does President Obama?

Mr. Trump’s candidacy has showed that the cadre of genuine social conservatives is smaller than long assumed, that grass-roots Republican support for large military commitments in the Middle East has withered, and that the business community is politically homeless.

So it has come to this: A mercantilist isolationist is the odds-on favorite to win the Republican presidential nomination. Whether or not he goes on to win the general election, the Republican Party cannot return to what it once was. The Reagan era has ended, and what comes next is anyone’s guess.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-trump-k ... 1461711203

[93henfan]

Amen.

[Wedgebuster]

Late night comment on Cruz's running mate, "she's just one heart beat away from never, ever being president."

Canadian beaner Cruz and moose lips Fiorina, what a pair!

[GannonFan]

Late night comment on Cruz's running mate, "she's just one heart beat away from never, ever being president."

Canadian beaner Cruz and moose lips Fiorina, what a pair!

[HI54UNI]

I may have to rethink my opinion of Cruz if Boehner hates him.......

You've got that backwards...

I know you're making a funny but if I had the choice of pushing Cruz or Boehner off of a cliff I would pick Boehner every time.

[GannonFan]

You've got that backwards...

I know you're making a funny but if I had the choice of pushing Cruz or Boehner off of a cliff I would pick Boehner every time.

Of course you would. Boehner looks overweight and out of shape and probably wouldn't even see you coming. Cruz, on the other hand, can probably rotate his head like that girl in the Exorcist and, being a creature of evil himself, could probably sense you coming.

[Ibanez]

I know you're making a funny but if I had the choice of pushing Cruz or Boehner off of a cliff I would pick Boehner every time.

Of course you would. Boehner looks overweight and out of shape and probably wouldn't even see you coming. Cruz, on the other hand, can probably rotate his head like that girl in the Exorcist and, being a creature of evil himself, could probably sense you coming.

Understandable.

Lucifer flesh makes sense...

[JohnStOnge]

An interesting thing on the exit poll thing I mentioned the other day. Basically, what exit polls showed is that the only people who said they would definitely vote for Trump in the general election are people who voted for Trump in the primary. The only exit poll I could find to link after the fact on that question is the Pennsylvania exit poll. The exit poll showed that 54% of those voting in the Republican primary said they would definitely vote for Trump if he is the nominee (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-rep ... d=38654929 ... scroll down).

That sounds good...until you realize that the actual percentage of the vote for Trump in that primary was 56.7%. What that suggests is that the only Pennsylvania people...or very close to the only people...who say they'll definitely vote for Trump in the general election if he is the nominee in the general election if he is the nominee are those who voted for him in the primary.

I can't find results on that question from the Connecticut or Maryland exit polls on line. But I can tell you that it's the same picture. When I saw it on TV the exit polls had in the 50s percentage wise saying that they'd definitely vote for Trump in the general election. And Trump got 57.9 percent of the vote in Connecticut along with 54.4 percent of the vote in Maryland.

If Trump is the nominee his lack of support among his own party is going to be unprecedented. He'll get massacred UNLESS Hillary gets indicted.

[houndawg]

Cruz needs to bow out. He has no path.


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Screw that. Try to force the brokered convention so the Republicans can get someone who might win (Kasich) or at least get an adult nominee (Kasich or Cruz).

perfect trap for Clinton if the conks could manage to not fvck it up like every thing else they touch. Could drive bernie to run Independent too

[93henfan]

An interesting thing on the exit poll thing I mentioned the other day. Basically, what exit polls showed is that the only people who said they would definitely vote for Trump in the general election are people who voted for Trump in the primary. The only exit poll I could find to link after the fact on that question is the Pennsylvania exit poll. The exit poll showed that 54% of those voting in the Republican primary said they would definitely vote for Trump if he is the nominee (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-rep ... d=38654929 ... scroll down).

That sounds good...until you realize that the actual percentage of the vote for Trump in that primary was 56.7%. What that suggests is that the only Pennsylvania people...or very close to the only people...who say they'll definitely vote for Trump in the general election if he is the nominee in the general election if he is the nominee are those who voted for him in the primary.

I can't find results on that question from the Connecticut or Maryland exit polls on line. But I can tell you that it's the same picture. When I saw it on TV the exit polls had in the 50s percentage wise saying that they'd definitely vote for Trump in the general election. And Trump got 57.9 percent of the vote in Connecticut along with 54.4 percent of the vote in Maryland.

If Trump is the nominee his lack of support among his own party is going to be unprecedented. He'll get massacred UNLESS Hillary gets indicted.

You do realize Trump has the most support of any Republican in a primary ever, right? Just checking.

[DSUrocks07]

An interesting thing on the exit poll thing I mentioned the other day. Basically, what exit polls showed is that the only people who said they would definitely vote for Trump in the general election are people who voted for Trump in the primary. The only exit poll I could find to link after the fact on that question is the Pennsylvania exit poll. The exit poll showed that 54% of those voting in the Republican primary said they would definitely vote for Trump if he is the nominee (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-rep ... d=38654929 ... scroll down).

That sounds good...until you realize that the actual percentage of the vote for Trump in that primary was 56.7%. What that suggests is that the only Pennsylvania people...or very close to the only people...who say they'll definitely vote for Trump in the general election if he is the nominee in the general election if he is the nominee are those who voted for him in the primary.

I can't find results on that question from the Connecticut or Maryland exit polls on line. But I can tell you that it's the same picture. When I saw it on TV the exit polls had in the 50s percentage wise saying that they'd definitely vote for Trump in the general election. And Trump got 57.9 percent of the vote in Connecticut along with 54.4 percent of the vote in Maryland.

If Trump is the nominee his lack of support among his own party is going to be unprecedented. He'll get massacred UNLESS Hillary gets indicted.

You do realize Trump has the most support of any Republican in a primary ever, right? Just checking.

Percentages bro, percentages. (According to him)

Although Romney and McCain had barely 50% of the total voter either but in JSOs mind that's a BIG difference.

Another thing I noticed is that HRC is winning primaries with low voter turnout. While Trump is winning primaries with high voter turnout.

Looks like that dynamic has flipped on its head.

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[YoUDeeMan]

An interesting thing on the exit poll thing I mentioned the other day. Basically, what exit polls showed is that the only people who said they would definitely vote for Trump in the general election are people who voted for Trump in the primary. The only exit poll I could find to link after the fact on that question is the Pennsylvania exit poll. The exit poll showed that 54% of those voting in the Republican primary said they would definitely vote for Trump if he is the nominee (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-rep ... d=38654929 ... scroll down).

That sounds good...until you realize that the actual percentage of the vote for Trump in that primary was 56.7%. What that suggests is that the only Pennsylvania people...or very close to the only people...who say they'll definitely vote for Trump in the general election if he is the nominee in the general election if he is the nominee are those who voted for him in the primary.

I can't find results on that question from the Connecticut or Maryland exit polls on line. But I can tell you that it's the same picture. When I saw it on TV the exit polls had in the 50s percentage wise saying that they'd definitely vote for Trump in the general election. And Trump got 57.9 percent of the vote in Connecticut along with 54.4 percent of the vote in Maryland.

If Trump is the nominee his lack of support among his own party is going to be unprecedented. He'll get massacred UNLESS Hillary gets indicted.

So, the Republicans that you hold up so dearly are basically a bunch of whiners and quitters.

If their (and he wasn't just a few months ago) darling Cruz isn't nominated, they'll just sit home and let Hillary take the election?

Wow.

Buh, bye, LOSERS.

The Republican party has an opportunity to be something on the national scene...but no...they'll just sit home and pout and let Hillary win. And that will do what for the party?



Yeah, JSO, and you say Trump is the immature, impulsive, petulant one.

What a JOKE the hard core establishment R clowns are!!!

[JohnStOnge]

You do realize Trump has the most support of any Republican in a primary ever, right? Just checking.

It is, as someone else just wrote, the percentages. There has been a lot of turnout in the Republican primaries this year. And it's because of Trump. But more people have turned out to vote against Trump than for him. Not in this most recent set of eastern primaries. But overall.

By my recollection from seeing it on TV, the figures in the exit polls for the three States in which they did April 26 exit polls on the question of "would never vote for Trump" in the general election among Republican primary voters were 22, 26, and 28 percent. And that's in States where Trump did WAY better than he's done in most primaries. That is a lot. If you don't think there will be a serious problem with people who normally vote Republican refusing to vote for Trump you are kidding yourself.

[Ibanez]

You do realize Trump has the most support of any Republican in a primary ever, right? Just checking.

It is, as someone else just wrote, the percentages. There has been a lot of turnout in the Republican primaries this year. And it's because of Trump. But more people have turned out to vote against Trump than for him. Not in this most recent set of eastern primaries. But overall.

By my recollection from seeing it on TV, the figures in the exit polls for the three States in which they did April 26 exit polls on the question of "would never vote for Trump" in the general election among Republican primary voters were 22, 26, and 28 percent. And that's in States where Trump did WAY better than he's done in most primaries. That is a lot. If you don't think there will be a serious problem with people who normally vote Republican refusing to vote for Trump you are kidding yourself.

It's actually votes, not percentages. He's exceeded 7.5 M, which seems to be a benchmark.

[93henfan]

Trump is already over 9 million. The most ever was Dubya with 10.8. Trump is going to pass that easily.

[YoUDeeMan]

Trump is already over 9 million. The most ever was Dubya with 10.8. Trump is going to pass that easily.

And that was with a massive field of candidates.

If the Rs are smart...they allow Trump to triumph and ride his wave of voters. Otherwise, uber-conservative Republicans will be committing suicide (which wouldn't be bad if it were contained to the right wing religious nut jobs and the Wall Street crooks) and the party will fade away on the national scene.

[BDKJMU]

You do realize Trump has the most support of any Republican in a primary ever, right? Just checking.

It is, as someone else just wrote, the percentages. There has been a lot of turnout in the Republican primaries this year. And it's because of Trump. But more people have turned out to vote against Trump than for him. Not in this most recent set of eastern primaries. But overall.

By my recollection from seeing it on TV, the figures in the exit polls for the three States in which they did April 26 exit polls on the question of "would never vote for Trump" in the general election among Republican primary voters were 22, 26, and 28 percent. And that's in States where Trump did WAY better than he's done in most primaries. That is a lot. If you don't think there will be a serious problem with people who normally vote Republican refusing to vote for Trump you are kidding yourself.

In most primaries there was between 4 and 17 candidates. We now have seen what happens when the field finally got whittled to 3 candidates. If there had been only 3 candidates from the start Trump would have been in the 50s-60s percentage wise in likely a plurality of states..