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CaseyOrourke wrote:
This is a reset for our football program. We believe Big Sky football will be positive for our athletes and position them to succeed on the field -- our head football coach and I expect Idaho to compete for an FCS championship in 2018.
I think this is wishful thinking on their part. It sounds like they actually believe that just because they were FBS, they can just waltz into the Big Sky and suddenly become the "cock of the walk."

Frankly, they aren't much higher that North Texas is in the FBS food chain, and the world saw what we did to them last season. They better be ready to prove it on the field

Would they even be eligible to participate in the FCS playoffs?
That is going to depend on them having their scholarships down to 63 at that time. It shouldn't be real hard because they have been operating around the 70-75 mark for years now. They are at 71 last year I think. Once they are legit FCS they will be able to split some schollies and so forth that they can not right now so they may lose a couple players but not necessarily need to if some agree to reductions...or just new ones coming int he next couple years are split up while normal attrition takes place with seniors leaving.
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BTW, younger Petrino is a very good coach. He will also probably put some hurt on UM and MSU for Helena, Butte, Billings, or basically some MT kids due to ties from family and through Carroll College.
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Can players who want to stay FBS transfer out without penalty?

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Jjoey52 wrote:Can players who want to stay FBS transfer out without penalty?

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No

Transfer rules still apply. Also read that since the move is to the FCS and its official players can not transfer FCS without sitting either. Sounds like a double whammy
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:BTW, younger Petrino is a very good coach. He will also probably put some hurt on UM and MSU for Helena, Butte, Billings, or basically some MT kids due to ties from family and through Carroll College.
Honestly who would choose Moscow and the Kibbie dump over Missoula and WaGriz?
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:BTW, younger Petrino is a very good coach. He will also probably put some hurt on UM and MSU for Helena, Butte, Billings, or basically some MT kids due to ties from family and through Carroll College.
Honestly who would choose Moscow and the Kibbie dump over Missoula and WaGriz?
Yeah, not many for sure but it is a stronger chance at losing a Montana kid than we've probably had in quite a while.
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Maybe they'll decide to build an outdoor stadium now

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WTF was Idaho thinking moving to FBS without expanding their 10k stadium? They have to pay for 15k seats per home game. Right out of the blocks you take a LOSS. Like what the hell was the plan??? smh :ohno:
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BlackFalkin wrote:WTF was Idaho thinking moving to FBS without expanding their 10k stadium? They have to pay for 15k seats per home game. Right out of the blocks you take a LOSS. Like what the hell was the plan??? smh :ohno:
Made as much sense as planning a massive expansion with no money to paying for it and a fan base that averages about 7k fans per game anyway
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clenz wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:WTF was Idaho thinking moving to FBS without expanding their 10k stadium? They have to pay for 15k seats per home game. Right out of the blocks you take a LOSS. Like what the hell was the plan??? smh :ohno:
Made as much sense as planning a massive expansion with no money to paying for it and a fan base that averages about 7k fans per game anyway
Nice troll. :lol:

We've averaged a sell out the past 4 or 5 seasons. Last year it was 9500. So yes, when you're turning people away ,you've raised your profile signifcantly, and enrollment is exploding and expected to continue (another 5k by 2020) it's probably a good time for expansion...fund raising failures notwithstanding.
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dbackjon wrote:
If they ran them as two separate, 7 member football conferences (Big Sky and Great Northwest, For example), then you would have TWO autobids.

Big Sky
NAU
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Cal Poly
UC-Davis
UNC
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Great Northwest
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Idaho
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Montana
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Play each team in your football conference (3 H, 3 A) 2 from other conference (1 H, 1 A) 3 other OOC
Yep. But goddamn, that's a long, stretched out conference from Sac State to UND. :shock:
That also ignores the fact that the moniker "Big Sky" is derived from the State of Montana itself.

Besides, I'd rather have PSU and WSU in our part of this, whether it's "divisions" or "leagues." Additionally, we have no business taking on yet another school outside the footprint in NMSU. I wouldn't mind dumping SUU and the Sioux, either. Bringing up Pueblo would be MUCH better than having those two....
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clenz wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:WTF was Idaho thinking moving to FBS without expanding their 10k stadium? They have to pay for 15k seats per home game. Right out of the blocks you take a LOSS. Like what the hell was the plan??? smh :ohno:
Made as much sense as planning a massive expansion with no money to paying for it and a fan base that averages about 7k fans per game anyway
When EWU gets the east side of Roos Field squared away uni is toast!
EWU 2015 Avg. 9,577 - Sold out every week. (Played UM in Missoula)
Uni 2015 Avg. 11,549 - struggling
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Difference of only 1,972 fans. If only EWU had the space to fit more fans.....
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clenz wrote: Made as much sense as planning a massive expansion with no money to paying for it and a fan base that averages about 7k fans per game anyway
When EWU gets the east side of Roos Field squared away uni is toast!
EWU 2015 Avg. 9,577 - Sold out every week. (Played UM in Missoula)
Uni 2015 Avg. 11,549 - struggling
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Difference of only 1,972 fans. If only EWU had the space to fit more fans.....
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http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_ ... e/2015.pdf
UNI's worst attendance in well over a decade. Made worse by the fact that UNI had all of the big games on the road - Illinois State, NDSU and SDSU were all road games, played 2 home games before Halloween and started conference play 0-3. All of that considered UNI's attendance being where it was isn't too shabby...Oh, and the Hawkeyes 90 miles down the road finished the season #5, in the Big 10 title game and Rose Bowl.

The home slate was EWU (6-5), Western Illinois (6-5), South Dakota (5-6), Indiana State (5-6), Southern Illinois (3-8). A playoff game on Thanksgiving weekend against a dogshit Eastern Illinois also hurt. Regular season UNI averaged over 12,500 per game.

The last decade has UNI averaging right at 13K, give or take a hundred.

This year UNI will average 14-15K given the home slate finally looks good again with all rivals at home - NDSU, SDSU, SIU, Missouri State and then Montana OOC.
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clenz wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:
When EWU gets the east side of Roos Field squared away uni is toast!
EWU 2015 Avg. 9,577 - Sold out every week. (Played UM in Missoula)
Uni 2015 Avg. 11,549 - struggling
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Difference of only 1,972 fans. If only EWU had the space to fit more fans.....
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http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_ ... e/2015.pdf
UNI's worst attendance in a decade. Made worse by the fact that UNI had our big games on the road - Illinois State, NDSU and SDSU were played 2 home games before Halloween and started conference play 0-3. All of that considered UNI's attendance being where it was isn't too shabby...Oh, and the Hawkeyes 90 miles away. Blah blah excuse and more excuses.

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FIFY. Uni sucks & so does that shitty dome. Uni won't average a sellout every game in the next 20 seasons! MARK MY WORDS! Just become an Eastern Washington Eagle fan and get it over with.

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clenz wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:
When EWU gets the east side of Roos Field squared away uni is toast!
EWU 2015 Avg. 9,577 - Sold out every week. (Played UM in Missoula)
Uni 2015 Avg. 11,549 - struggling
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Difference of only 1,972 fans. If only EWU had the space to fit more fans.....
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http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_ ... e/2015.pdf
UNI's worst attendance in well over a decade. Made worse by the fact that UNI had all of the big games on the road - Illinois State, NDSU and SDSU were all road games, played 2 home games before Halloween and started conference play 0-3. All of that considered UNI's attendance being where it was isn't too shabby...Oh, and the Hawkeyes 90 miles down the road finished the season #5, in the Big 10 title game and Rose Bowl.

The home slate was EWU (6-5), Western Illinois (6-5), South Dakota (5-6), Indiana State (5-6), Southern Illinois (3-8). A playoff game on Thanksgiving weekend against a dogshit Eastern Illinois also hurt. Regular season UNI averaged over 12,500 per game.

The last decade has UNI averaging right at 13K, give or take a hundred.

This year UNI will average 14-15K given the home slate finally looks good again with all rivals at home - NDSU, SDSU, SIU, Missouri State and then Montana OOC.
We had WSU down the road having there best season in a long time. Sounds like you guys have a right sized stadium and we need to expand.
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clenz wrote: Made as much sense as planning a massive expansion with no money to paying for it and a fan base that averages about 7k fans per game anyway
When EWU gets the east side of Roos Field squared away uni is toast!
EWU 2015 Avg. 9,577 - Sold out every week. (Played UM in Missoula)
Uni 2015 Avg. 11,549 - struggling
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Difference of only 1,972 fans. If only EWU had the space to fit more fans.....
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Hey, I honestly respect what EWU has been doing and they are not the poorly attended space they once were. The coaches, team, and the fans are doing a really good job making that place something really good.

The administration there has really got to get things moving to keep the momentum moving in the direction it is.
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That picture is deceiving. The stands don't even go endzone to endzone and there are 10 rows of seats that stretch only 30-30 on the other side.
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clenz wrote:That picture is deceiving. The stands don't even go endzone to endzone and there are 10 rows of seats that stretch only 30-30 on the other side.

This guy is jelly. :lol: listen guy, EWU NEEDS more seats for fans. Uni can't fill the seats they have. Probably bc they're inside of a dark, dusty, crappy indoor baseball field.
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Baseball in the UNIDome....

Pretty sure that's literally never happened.

It's nice to know that your D1 university has plans to finally outdraw/build high schools in Iowa though...about time.
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clenz wrote:Baseball in the UNIDome....

i think that only happened in 2002.

It's nice to know that your D1 university has plans schools in Iowa though...ame.
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BlackFalkin wrote:
clenz wrote:Baseball in the UNIDome....

i think that only happened in 2002.

It's nice to know that your D1 university has plans schools in Iowa though...ame.
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He used a photo that's so old the conference on the field doesn't even exist as that conference anymore...and hasn't for nearly a decade
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:Hey, I honestly respect what EWU has been doing and they are not the poorly attended space they once were. The coaches, team, and the fans are doing a really good job making that place something really good.

The administration there has really got to get things moving to keep the momentum moving in the direction it is.
:nod:

The athletic department has done a great job raising our profile, increasing donations, and making incremental improvements to Roos ...Jumbotron and audio, stadium apparel shop, new upper level parking, improved concessions. It's not as if we've been idle and the game day experience is way ahead of where it was in 2009.

If we could remove the track and add even the same type and size of erector set seating on the east side as we have in the north end zone, we'd be in decent shape.
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Looking at this thread...indeed "Welcome back Idaho" where even here you are an auto afterthought to other domes.
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