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You can't sulk forever. You'll get through all the stages of grief eventually. Once you do... why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?!

Here's one of your Cruz brethren with a pep talk for you:
MARK KRIKORIAN May 4, 2016

Donald Trump is unfit to be president. He’s a braggart and a liar. And a serial adulterer. He’s behaved shamefully during the primary campaign. He wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if he tripped over it in the street. He doesn’t know even the Cliff Notes version of any policy issue. The idea that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, Coolidge and Eisenhower, Justice Harlan and Senator Taft has nominated Trump is appalling.

And I’m going to vote for him anyway.

I condemn no one for deciding otherwise. There are plausible arguments for not voting for him in November – to repudiate him and his style of politics, to uphold conservative principle. Staying home, voting for a third party, or writing someone in are all honorable alternatives. (Actually voting for Hillary is not.) And if you think his defeat is literally inevitable, these are easier choices to make.

But while his defeat is clearly likely, I do not think it inevitable. As president, Trump would not do half the things he’s promised his supporters, nor half the things his detractors fear. All the illegals aren’t going to be deported and the wall will be tied up in eminent domain litigation for years; likewise, he won’t nuke Belgium or seize the New York Times.

But he would make appointments, and personnel is policy, more so than ever in the post-constitutional era Obama has ushered in. There are hundreds of posts that matter, but two stand out. The first is obvious: the Supreme Court. We have no real idea whom Trump might nominate, but he or she could not help but be better than Hillary’s choices.

The second position is possibly even more powerful than the Supreme Court, albeit with shorter tenure: head of the Civil Rights Division in the Department of Justice. The division is Left’s most potent weapon in imposing its will on every city and town, every baker and florist, every church and synagogue in the nation. The current acting director is an ACLU lawyer – I don’t mean a lawyer who happens to belong to the group, but the ACLU’s actual Deputy Legal Director. Under President Clinton the Second, the ACLU would continue to wage lawfare against Americans on Americans’ own dime, irreversibly altering the fabric of our society. Whatever his manifold shortcomings, this would not be the case in a Trump administration.

I would have preferred Cruz. He’s manifestly a better human being and would certainly have made a better president. But that’s over now. Either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is going to be sworn in as president in January. It’s not crazy to argue that Hillary would be less destructive in the long run, but it’s an argument I do not find persuasive.

So my reluctant conclusion is this: Vote for the bloviating megalomaniac – it’s important.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 ... y-is-worse
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93henfan wrote:You can't sulk forever. You'll get through all the stages of grief eventually. Once you do... why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?!

Here's one of your Cruz brethren with a pep talk for you:
MARK KRIKORIAN May 4, 2016

Donald Trump is unfit to be president. He’s a braggart and a liar. And a serial adulterer. He’s behaved shamefully during the primary campaign. He wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if he tripped over it in the street. He doesn’t know even the Cliff Notes version of any policy issue. The idea that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, Coolidge and Eisenhower, Justice Harlan and Senator Taft has nominated Trump is appalling.

And I’m going to vote for him anyway.

I condemn no one for deciding otherwise. There are plausible arguments for not voting for him in November – to repudiate him and his style of politics, to uphold conservative principle. Staying home, voting for a third party, or writing someone in are all honorable alternatives. (Actually voting for Hillary is not.) And if you think his defeat is literally inevitable, these are easier choices to make.

But while his defeat is clearly likely, I do not think it inevitable. As president, Trump would not do half the things he’s promised his supporters, nor half the things his detractors fear. All the illegals aren’t going to be deported and the wall will be tied up in eminent domain litigation for years; likewise, he won’t nuke Belgium or seize the New York Times.

But he would make appointments, and personnel is policy, more so than ever in the post-constitutional era Obama has ushered in. There are hundreds of posts that matter, but two stand out. The first is obvious: the Supreme Court. We have no real idea whom Trump might nominate, but he or she could not help but be better than Hillary’s choices.

The second position is possibly even more powerful than the Supreme Court, albeit with shorter tenure: head of the Civil Rights Division in the Department of Justice. The division is Left’s most potent weapon in imposing its will on every city and town, every baker and florist, every church and synagogue in the nation. The current acting director is an ACLU lawyer – I don’t mean a lawyer who happens to belong to the group, but the ACLU’s actual Deputy Legal Director. Under President Clinton the Second, the ACLU would continue to wage lawfare against Americans on Americans’ own dime, irreversibly altering the fabric of our society. Whatever his manifold shortcomings, this would not be the case in a Trump administration.

I would have preferred Cruz. He’s manifestly a better human being and would certainly have made a better president. But that’s over now. Either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is going to be sworn in as president in January. It’s not crazy to argue that Hillary would be less destructive in the long run, but it’s an argument I do not find persuasive.

So my reluctant conclusion is this: Vote for the bloviating megalomaniac – it’s important.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 ... y-is-worse
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The best post for Cruz would be Secretary of State. People would sign treaties just to get that creepy fucker out of their tent.
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Just to be clear, I think Cruz was a ho-hum candidate and would be a mediocre campaigner at best. I just don't think he's de debbil and don't see where people are coming from calling him "creepy".

As for Trump, I don't think any of us really know what he's going to do if he becomes president. If we can say that he won't try to ban muslims or build a wall on the border what else has he said that we think he won't follow through with on the campaign? The guy is worse than John kerry about making sure he delivers at least a somewhat consistent message.

Also, people gave Bush hell about his running of Arbusto Oil, but that was just one company. Trump has failed in just about every business venture he's been involved in other than real estate - from the USFL, to Miss America, to Trump University and Trump steaks and so on. Is he actually qualified?

I won't be voting for Trump even if Georgia teeters on the edge of going for Hillary (probably won't happen, but we'll see).
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Ibanez wrote:
93henfan wrote:You can't sulk forever. You'll get through all the stages of grief eventually. Once you do... why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?!

Here's one of your Cruz brethren with a pep talk for you:
Just watch Trump propose Cruz for the SCOTUS. That'd be suicide.
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I'm not a Republican. I did not vote in the Republican primaries because Louisiana is a closed primary and I am registered as a LIbertarian. I just have historically voted Republican in Presidential elections because I pick what I think is the best or at least the lesser of two evils between the two candidates that had a reasonable chance to win. This time it's not the Republican. It's the worst choice of my lifetime. But this time the lesser of two evils is the Democrat.

No way in hell I would ever vote for Trump and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I'm not a Republican. I did not vote in the Republican primaries because Louisiana is a closed primary and I am registered as a LIbertarian. I just have historically voted Republican in Presidential elections because I pick what I think is the best or at least the lesser of two evils between the two candidates that had a reasonable chance to win. This time it's not the Republican. It's the worst choice of my lifetime. But this time the lesser of two evils is the Democrat.

No way in hell I would ever vote for Trump and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him.
You didn't read the article...did you?

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BTW, that is a pretty lukewarm argument.
Donald Trump is unfit to be president.
Hillary has the wrong philosophy. But she is not unfit to be President. She is way more fit for the job than Trump is.
The idea that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, Coolidge and Eisenhower, Justice Harlan and Senator Taft has nominated Trump is appalling.
Yup.
And I’m going to vote for him anyway. I condemn no one for deciding otherwise. There are plausible arguments for not voting for him in November – to repudiate him and his style of politics, to uphold conservative principle.
Yup.
It’s not crazy to argue that Hillary would be less destructive in the long run, but it’s an argument I do not find persuasive.
Sorry, but I do find it to be persuasive.

End of story. If Louisiana is in play, I am voting for the Democratic candidate. Probably Hillary. But if it's Sanders that too. Either would be better than Trump. Both are far more honorable people than Trump is. Both are far more honest people than Trump is. That's right: Hillary is far more honorable and honest than Trump is. And that's saying something.
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Here's the bottom line:

As bad as Hillary is, she is at least a grown up who can conduct herself in a reasonably professional manner. There's no indication that she has mental health issues. And there are plenty of indications that Donald has mental health issues. You're interviewing two people for the job of Chief Executive of the United States government. Admittedly neither is ideal. But you've got Hillary and on the other hand you have this completely out of control nut job who BTW is a pathological liar to an extent that dwarfs even Hillary's problem in that regard.

It's a no brainer. If those are the only two choices Hillary gets the job.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Here's the bottom line:

As bad as Hillary is, she is at least a grown up who can conduct herself in a reasonably professional manner. There's no indication that she has mental health issues. And there are plenty of indications that Donald has mental health issues. You're interviewing two people for the job of Chief Executive of the United States government. Admittedly neither is ideal. But you've got Hillary and on the other hand you have this completely out of control nut job who BTW is a pathological liar to an extent that dwarfs even Hillary's problem in that regard.

It's a no brainer. If those are the only two choices Hillary gets the job.
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You haven't been paying attention to Hillary.

And being presidential has a lot more to do with what you get done versus how you do it. Wow, who'd have thought that you were a fashion over substance person. :lol:

Yup, you sound like a snooty school girl criticizing someone for being less than prim and proper...you're a member of the 90210 crowd. :ohno:
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Wow, who'd have thought that you were a fashion over substance person
I cannot believe you would invoke "substance" when you're apparently supporting Donald Trump. You have got to be kidding.
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And being presidential has a lot more to do with what you get done versus how you do it.
What? Are you saying that Donald Trump building hotels means he's done something to indicate he's qualified to be President? What the hell do you think Trump has gotten done that suggests he's qualified for that job?

He has absolutely no clue with respect to government. This thing people have where they think that someone who has absolutely NO government experience is just the BEST person for the job of friggin chief executive of the GOVERNMENT of the United States is ridiculous.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
And being presidential has a lot more to do with what you get done versus how you do it.
What? Are you saying that Donald Trump building hotels means he's done something to indicate he's qualified to be President? What the hell do you think Trump has gotten done that suggests he's qualified for that job?

He has absolutely no clue with respect to government. This thing people have where they think that someone who has absolutely NO government experience is just the BEST person for the job of friggin chief executive of the GOVERNMENT of the United States is ridiculous.
No clue with respect to government?

How long was Obama a Senator...and what did he accomplish? :suspicious:

I didn't hear you complaining about Fiorina's lack of experience. She was a heartbeat (uhh...and millions of votes) away from being President. Cripes, she lost twice in the same election. :lol:

No one NEEDS political experience to be President. That is totally overrated. In fact, in both parties, there is a loud screaming coming from the masses...we are TIRED of lying, self-serving politicians. But, as much as they scream for change, apparently, the progressive Liberals are not so tired of the failed policies of Hillary and the establishment. :lol:

Anyway, you still haven't listed any specifics about Trump. You'v become that which you swear to hate...someone tossing out baseless garbage and trying to pass it as fact.

Shame on you.
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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, that is a pretty lukewarm argument.
Donald Trump is unfit to be president.
Hillary has the wrong philosophy. But she is not unfit to be President. She is way more fit for the job than Trump is.
The idea that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, Coolidge and Eisenhower, Justice Harlan and Senator Taft has nominated Trump is appalling.
Yup.
And I’m going to vote for him anyway. I condemn no one for deciding otherwise. There are plausible arguments for not voting for him in November – to repudiate him and his style of politics, to uphold conservative principle.
Yup.
It’s not crazy to argue that Hillary would be less destructive in the long run, but it’s an argument I do not find persuasive.
Sorry, but I do find it to be persuasive.

End of story. If Louisiana is in play, I am voting for the Democratic candidate. Probably Hillary. But if it's Sanders that too. Either would be better than Trump. Both are far more honorable people than Trump is. Both are far more honest people than Trump is. That's right: Hillary is far more honorable and honest than Trump is. And that's saying something.
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BDKJMU wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, that is a pretty lukewarm argument.



Hillary has the wrong philosophy. But she is not unfit to be President. She is way more fit for the job than Trump is.



Yup.



Yup.



Sorry, but I do find it to be persuasive.

End of story. If Louisiana is in play, I am voting for the Democratic candidate. Probably Hillary. But if it's Sanders that too. Either would be better than Trump. Both are far more honorable people than Trump is. Both are far more honest people than Trump is. That's right: Hillary is far more honorable and honest than Trump is. And that's saying something.
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Ok you got to be trolling. If so congrats...Or you have completely fuckin lost it....
EIther JSO is trolling or the dumbest member of this forum. :suspicious:

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Cluck, thanks for staying up late and engaging the nut job for me. I got a full six hours of sleep last night. :thumb:
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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, that is a pretty lukewarm argument.
Donald Trump is unfit to be president.
Hillary has the wrong philosophy. But she is not unfit to be President. She is way more fit for the job than Trump is.
The idea that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, Coolidge and Eisenhower, Justice Harlan and Senator Taft has nominated Trump is appalling.
Yup.
And I’m going to vote for him anyway. I condemn no one for deciding otherwise. There are plausible arguments for not voting for him in November – to repudiate him and his style of politics, to uphold conservative principle.
Yup.
It’s not crazy to argue that Hillary would be less destructive in the long run, but it’s an argument I do not find persuasive.
Sorry, but I do find it to be persuasive.

End of story. If Louisiana is in play, I am voting for the Democratic candidate. Probably Hillary. But if it's Sanders that too. Either would be better than Trump. Both are far more honorable people than Trump is. Both are far more honest people than Trump is. That's right: Hillary is far more honorable and honest than Trump is. And that's saying something.
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You're just a crybaby.
Stop being a pussy and realize how most decisions in this country are made.
I don't like Trump either, but I hate Pelosi, Reid, Warren, etc. much more. That's where your focus should be. On Congress.
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93henfan wrote:Cluck, thanks for staying up late and engaging the nut job for me. I got a full six hours of sleep last night. :thumb:
This is fascinating to me...in a sci-fi way.

I'm watching JSO collapse into a black hole. He's starting to emit strange radio waves.
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This is spiraling into the likes not seen here since, dare I say, 6.93 territory.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I'm not a Republican. I did not vote in the Republican primaries because Louisiana is a closed primary and I am registered as a LIbertarian. I just have historically voted Republican in Presidential elections because I pick what I think is the best or at least the lesser of two evils between the two candidates that had a reasonable chance to win. This time it's not the Republican. It's the worst choice of my lifetime. But this time the lesser of two evils is the Democrat.

No way in hell I would ever vote for Trump and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him.
How can HRC be the lesser of two evils if she's infinitely more evil than Trump?

Lesser of two evils? That's like choosing between having a dog bite off your balls or having a rabid dog bite off your balls.
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I don't like Trump either, but I hate Pelosi, Reid, Warren, etc. much more. That's where your focus should be. On Congress.
Trump at the head of the Republican ticket is likely going to help the Democrats in the Congressional races.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
And being presidential has a lot more to do with what you get done versus how you do it.
What? Are you saying that Donald Trump building hotels means he's done something to indicate he's qualified to be President? What the hell do you think Trump has gotten done that suggests he's qualified for that job?

He has absolutely no clue with respect to government. This thing people have where they think that someone who has absolutely NO government experience is just the BEST person for the job of friggin chief executive of the GOVERNMENT of the United States is ridiculous.
You think a man that has built a billion dollar empire across the globe has no clue as to how government works? :suspicious:
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How can HRC be the lesser of two evils if she's infinitely more evil than Trump?
She's not. Trump is the more evil of the two. The more dishonest. The more unscrupulous. Ect.

http://theweek.com/articles/611581/why- ... helm-press
But there are liars, and then there's Donald Trump. He may have an inflated opinion of himself, but when it comes to lying, the man has truly reached a level no one else can approach.
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Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.

But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.
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I expect it to continue. No matter how much evidence there is out there...no matter how much you can just SEE that the guy is bad news if you just watch him for 10 minutes...you're going to rationalize it in your minds so you can continue your hero worship because for some reason you like seeing someone be an asshole. You think that's cool.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
How can HRC be the lesser of two evils if she's infinitely more evil than Trump?
She's not. Trump is the more evil of the two. The more dishonest. The more unscrupulous. Ect.

http://theweek.com/articles/611581/why- ... helm-press
But there are liars, and then there's Donald Trump. He may have an inflated opinion of himself, but when it comes to lying, the man has truly reached a level no one else can approach.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trum ... nk-berrien
Donald Trump has repeatedly labeled his political opponents liars. He dubbed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) Lyin' Ted when it became clear that Cruz was a serious rival for his nomination; he called Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) an "even bigger liar" than Cruz. He dubbed Dr. Ben Carson a "pathological liar" and said former Florida Governor Jeb Bush's lies were almost as bad as Cruz's. Trump has termed virtually every mildly adversarial media member a liar, too.

But there's only one truly massive liar in this race: Donald Trump. When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies.
You guys keep giving this guy a pass and he's just absolutely horrible. Even by the standards of politicians he is by far the worst I've ever seen in terms of just brazen, bald faced dishonesty. And that's just ONE of the problems with him. There are many others. You people who have supported him or are now supporting him are either insane or you, as I have said many times, have just suspended your critical thinking skills due to some kind of cult of personality thing or something.
You have come unhinged if you think Hillary is the more honest between the two. Hillary is proven to say anything to get elected. She's proven to lie about things like sniper fire, her grandparents, trying to join the USMC, etc... The only time she's had a more dishonest bone in her body is when Bill is giving it to her.

Where's his dishonesty? Trump is far from the polished, bloviating and pandering politician we are used to. But the most dishonest? You've seriously lost it. You aren't a Libertarian at all. No honest Libertarian could ever pull the switch on Clinton for POTUS.
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Re: JSO, Pwns & Other Butthurt Republicans

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Im pretty sure of one thing-

if you're into decapitating dictatorships and leaving power vacuums in muslim countries (because the children!) then Hillary's your man

if youre into doing the same thing (because WMD) then shes also your man

I get the impression that we'll see at lot less whacking people over the head with Democracy under Trump



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