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POD Knows wrote:
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A Sander's paradise would probably be more like Chavez's Venezuela than a Scandinavian country.

For every Sudan/Kansas is a libertarian/conservative/supply sider's paradise there is the opposite example of North Korea/Illinois. Purely socialist (government driven) or capitalist (market driven) approaches are not ideal, the best approach lies in the middle and we're just arguing over where in the middle it is (out moderate that Kalmy :-P ).
Socialism is not an enumerated power of the Federal Government but why bring up the Constitution, the Constitution is simply out of the mental grasp of a progressive or socialist. They think all power emanates from a central power, that is all they understand.
Yeah! Capitalism and the free market are all over that shit!!!
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Socialism is not an enumerated power of the Federal Government but why bring up the Constitution, the Constitution is simply out of the mental grasp of a progressive or socialist. They think all power emanates from a central power, that is all they understand.
Yeah! Capitalism and the free market are all over that ****!!!
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POD Knows wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
A Sander's paradise would probably be more like Chavez's Venezuela than a Scandinavian country.

For every Sudan/Kansas is a libertarian/conservative/supply sider's paradise there is the opposite example of North Korea/Illinois. Purely socialist (government driven) or capitalist (market driven) approaches are not ideal, the best approach lies in the middle and we're just arguing over where in the middle it is (out moderate that Kalmy :-P ).
Socialism is not an enumerated power of the Federal Government but why bring up the Constitution, the Constitution is simply out of the mental grasp of a progressive or socialist. They think all power emanates from a central power, that is all they understand.
In fairness, the Constitution didn't enumerate incurring the debts of the States. But that happened in 1790 when the Federal government took on the war debts of the States. That was the founders baby!
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Socialism is not an enumerated power of the Federal Government but why bring up the Constitution, the Constitution is simply out of the mental grasp of a progressive or socialist. They think all power emanates from a central power, that is all they understand.
In fairness, the Constitution didn't enumerate incurring the debts of the States. But that happened in 1790 when the Federal government took on the war debts of the States. That was the founders baby!
In fairness it is implied since defense is one of the few areas of the constitution that is in the federal purview and obviously the debts of the states were incurred for the defense (or offense in this particular case :D
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OL FU wrote:
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In fairness, the Constitution didn't enumerate incurring the debts of the States. But that happened in 1790 when the Federal government took on the war debts of the States. That was the founders baby!
In fairness it is implied since defense is one of the few areas of the constitution that is in the federal purview and obviously the debts of the states were incurred for the defense (or offense in this particular case :D
Good reply, bastard! :lol:

But the States were not part of the Country at the point the war occurred. Because there was no Country. And many people in the now USA wanted to stay with Britain, and invested their money in that direction.

But if the individual states (particularly Virginia, since their debt was already paid) wanted to be so independent of the the Federal government, they wouldn't have agreed to the the Bill in the first place. Right?
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OL FU wrote:
In fairness it is implied since defense is one of the few areas of the constitution that is in the federal purview and obviously the debts of the states were incurred for the defense (or offense in this particular case :D
Good reply, bastard! :lol:

But the States were not part of the Country at the point the war occurred. Because there was no Country. And many people in the now USA wanted to stay with Britain, and invested their money in that direction.

But if the individual states (particularly Virginia, since their debt was already paid) wanted to be so independent of the the Federal government, they wouldn't have agreed to the the Bill in the first place. Right?
You missed the point. They were ratifying a constitution where defense was a federal responsibility so do the Trump thing and negotiate . But you are a far left wing loon so I expect nothing less :lol:
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OL FU wrote:
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In fairness, the Constitution didn't enumerate incurring the debts of the States. But that happened in 1790 when the Federal government took on the war debts of the States. That was the founders baby!
In fairness it is implied since defense is one of the few areas of the constitution that is in the federal purview and obviously the debts of the states were incurred for the defense (or offense in this particular case :D
:notworthy: Thanks for the elaboration on the Constitution.
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As I said, I don't agree with Sanders' philosophy of government. But Trump very publicly said he would debate Sanders. Sanders said he was all for that. Sanders is still all for that. Trump all of a sudden is backing off. Now he doesn't want to do it.

And Sanders would kill him if he tried to debate Sanders on substance. You know that as well as I do. He'd make a fool of Trump. Trump's only play would be to go to the same kind of vapid, hurling insults stuff he did during the Republican primaries.
I actually don't know how the debate would go, Sanders, in my opinion, is a terrible debater because his ideas are so bad. Trump is a bad debater because he is Trump. But you are right, Trump accepted the debate and then backed away.
He's chickenshit. :coffee:

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I actually don't know how the debate would go, Sanders, in my opinion, is a terrible debater because his ideas are so bad. Trump is a bad debater because he is Trump. But you are right, Trump accepted the debate and then backed away.
He's chickenshit. :coffee:

This isn't exactly news.
Sanders is such a fucking pussy that he got muscled out of a hippie commune a few years back. Sanders is the epitome of the current Beta male. Now, that doesn't change the fact that Trump was going to debate and then backed out.
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Sanders has bad ideas but he's actually thought about them in depth. Trump is far more shallow in his thinking. Sanders would kill him in a debate. By that I mean he'd beat the hell out of him on substance.

Now, that's not to say the Trumpites wouldn't still say Trump wont he debate. He could say turds taste good so they should eat them and they'd eat turds.

But, on substance, Sanders would clean his clock.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Sanders has bad ideas but he's actually thought about them in depth. Trump is far more shallow in his thinking. Sanders would kill him in a debate. By that I mean he'd beat the hell out of him on substance.

Now, that's not to say the Trumpites wouldn't still say Trump wont he debate. He could say turds taste good so they should eat them and they'd eat turds.

But, on substance, Sanders would clean his clock.


I have watched the Democratic debates and Sanders is grossly overrated as a debater. His substance is SOCIALISM, plus he presents it poorly, he comes off as a washed up old college Prof and an off his rocker gadfly.

You couldn't pay me to watch a debate between Trump and Sanders.
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UNI88 wrote:
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This!

Sanders would have us slogging away under some oppressive and most unhappy Marxist state like Germany...or Sweden...or Denmark...or...gasp...Silicon Valley!!!!

Oh no's!!!!!!!!!!!
A Sander's paradise would probably be more like Chavez's Venezuela than a Scandinavian country.

For every Sudan/Kansas is a libertarian/conservative/supply sider's paradise there is the opposite example of North Korea/Illinois. Purely socialist (government driven) or capitalist (market driven) approaches are not ideal, the best approach lies in the middle and we're just arguing over where in the middle it is (out moderate that Kalmy :-P ).
I've said that all along regarding the extremes. They both end up in the same place with entrenched power among the few (party members or oligarchs) and less freedom.

I think Sanders is easier to connect to developed Northern Europe rather than the 3rd world though.
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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
A Sander's paradise would probably be more like Chavez's Venezuela than a Scandinavian country.

For every Sudan/Kansas is a libertarian/conservative/supply sider's paradise there is the opposite example of North Korea/Illinois. Purely socialist (government driven) or capitalist (market driven) approaches are not ideal, the best approach lies in the middle and we're just arguing over where in the middle it is (out moderate that Kalmy :-P ).
I've said that all along regarding the extremes. They both end up in the same place with entrenched power among the few (party members or oligarchs) and less freedom.

I think Sanders is easier to connect to developed Northern Europe rather than the 3rd world though.
Wow that is a ringing endorsement, thanks but no thanks.
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kalm wrote:
I've said that all along regarding the extremes. They both end up in the same place with entrenched power among the few (party members or oligarchs) and less freedom.

I think Sanders is easier to connect to developed Northern Europe rather than the 3rd world though.
Wow that is a ringing endorsement, thanks but no thanks.
Don't worry, this wouldn't happen over night even with a Bernie presidency. We'd take the proper amount of time to assimilate you through the re-education camps.
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Wow that is a ringing endorsement, thanks but no thanks.
Don't worry, this wouldn't happen over night even with a Bernie presidency. We'd take the proper amount of time to assimilate you through the re-education camps.
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I have to agree with Trump. Hillary is the presumptive nominee. Why would Trump debate someone he isn't going to be running against?


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kalm wrote:
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Wow that is a ringing endorsement, thanks but no thanks.
Don't worry, this wouldn't happen over night even with a Bernie presidency. We'd take the proper amount of time to assimilate you through the re-education camps.
:lol: :lol: I doubt that any of the Sanders supporters are man enough to get anybody to a re-education camps. There will never be this type of thing in the US when 80,000,000 own 300,000,000 guns and most of the firepower is in the hands of conservatives.
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kalm wrote:
Don't worry, this wouldn't happen over night even with a Bernie presidency. We'd take the proper amount of time to assimilate you through the re-education camps.
:lol: :lol: I doubt that any of the Sanders supporters are man enough to get anybody to a re-education camps. There will never be this type of thing in the US when 80,000,000 own 300,000,000 guns and most of the firepower is in the hands of conservatives.
That's exactly what Scandinavian conservatives thought too...

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houndawg wrote:
He's chickenshit. :coffee:

This isn't exactly news.
Sanders is such a **** pussy that he got muscled out of a hippie commune a few years back. Sanders is the epitome of the current Beta male. Now, that doesn't change the fact that Trump was going to debate and then backed out.
Sanders would whup Trump's behind and send him to bed without supper. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote:I have to agree with Trump. Hillary is the presumptive nominee. Why would Trump debate someone he isn't going to be running against?


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I agree but the fact that trump was dumb enough to agree to a debate on air and then have to back down... he's in over his head here.
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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote:I have to agree with Trump. Hillary is the presumptive nominee. Why would Trump debate someone he isn't going to be running against?


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I agree but the fact that trump was dumb enough to agree to a debate on air and then have to back down... he's in over his head here.
Yes. That's the thing. If you're going to say you're not going to debate someone you're not going to be running against say it the first time. Don't say you're going to do it then back out.

But Trump is such a phony. Nothing about him is real. That's ironic because the zombies that are following him are following him in part because they think he's genuine. He's not. He is, as Rubio pointed out, a total con man.
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houndawg wrote:
I agree but the fact that trump was dumb enough to agree to a debate on air and then have to back down... he's in over his head here.
Yes. That's the thing. If you're going to say you're not going to debate someone you're not going to be running against say it the first time. Don't say you're going to do it then back out.

But Trump is such a phony. Nothing about him is real. That's ironic because the zombies that are following him are following him in part because they think he's genuine. He's not. He is, as Rubio pointed out, a total con man.
Sucks to spend 40 years creating a base of racist zombies only to have them turn on you in the end....so sad.... :cry:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I agree but the fact that trump was dumb enough to agree to a debate on air and then have to back down... he's in over his head here.
Yes. That's the thing. If you're going to say you're not going to debate someone you're not going to be running against say it the first time. Don't say you're going to do it then back out.

But Trump is such a phony. Nothing about him is real. That's ironic because the zombies that are following him are following him in part because they think he's genuine. He's not. He is, as Rubio pointed out, a total con man.
Trump said yesterday that he pulled out because the networks did not want to spend enough money (that was to go towards women's health charities) to make it worth his while. And since Bernie is #2, Trump assumes all the risk. So since the reward is not worth the risk, he backed out.
Whether you believe that or not, it's a reasonable excuse.
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kalm wrote:
Don't worry, this wouldn't happen over night even with a Bernie presidency. We'd take the proper amount of time to assimilate you through the re-education camps.
:lol: :lol: I doubt that any of the Sanders supporters are man enough to get anybody to a re-education camps. There will never be this type of thing in the US when 80,000,000 own 300,000,000 guns and most of the firepower is in the hands of conservatives.
:lol:


Your pissant deer rifle isn't "firepower" and will be easily gleaned from what is left of your house. :ohno:
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