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What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
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Cluck U wrote:What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
Beck door, hell, Obama is letting them in the front door with open arms.
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Cluck U wrote:What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
Well said. What also bothers me, is this fucker was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget
Mateen was the son of an Afghan immigrant who had a talk show in the United States, the nature of which was not entirely clear: A former Afghan official said the program was pro-Taliban and a former colleague said it was enthusiastically pro-American.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our fucked up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're fucking shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have its training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS fucks don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

Fuck the rules of war. Fuck the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


Fuck, i'm angry.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Cluck U wrote:What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
Beck door, hell, Obama is letting them in the front door with open arms.
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More Democrat voters. Of course he wants them to flood our borders.

Our country, as we knew it, is done. There's no going back. Emigration may become the best option for white folks.

Our descendants can watch a formerly great country go down in flames when the mud people run it, safely from Australia.
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Ibanez wrote:
Cluck U wrote:What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
Well said. What also bothers me, is this fucker was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget
Mateen was the son of an Afghan immigrant who had a talk show in the United States, the nature of which was not entirely clear: A former Afghan official said the program was pro-Taliban and a former colleague said it was enthusiastically pro-American.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our fucked up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're fucking shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have it's training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS fucks don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

Fuck the rules of war. Fuck the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


Fuck, i'm angry.

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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Beck door, hell, Obama is letting them in the front door with open arms.
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More Democrat voters. Of course he wants them to flood our borders.

Our country, as we knew it, is done. There's no going back. Emigration may become the best option for white folks.

Our descendants can watch a formerly great country go down in flames when the mud people run it, safely from Australia.
Yep.

"...Between 2001 and 2013, the United States permanently resettled 1.5 million Muslim immigrants throughout the United States.

In the next five years, without changes to our autopilot visa dispensations, the U.S. will permanently resettle a Muslim population larger than the entire population of Washington D.C.

Immigration from the Middle East is on the rise. Based on 2014 data–the most recent available data from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)– the number of green cards issued to Middle Eastern countries increased by 32 percent. The number of green cards issued to Afghan migrants increased by 379 percent in the course of that single year.

Hillary Clinton has made clear that under a Clinton Presidency, these numbers will grow substantially higher. Based on the minimum numbers Clinton has put forth thus far, the U.S. will resettle 730,000 permanent migrants from the Muslim world during her first term alone......."
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Well said. What also bothers me, is this fucker was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our fucked up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're fucking shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have it's training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS fucks don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

Fuck the rules of war. Fuck the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


Fuck, i'm angry.

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Some people are just fine with their future generations being fucked, be they Democrats with their lowering of standards in EVERYTHING or Republicans with their rape of resources: natural, human, and financial.

We have jumped the shark. The trajectory is downward.
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Ibanez wrote:
Cluck U wrote:What bothers me most about this attack is that Muslins are constantly trying to slip into America via the back door and we don't see them coming.
Well said. What also bothers me, is this **** was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget
Mateen was the son of an Afghan immigrant who had a talk show in the United States, the nature of which was not entirely clear: A former Afghan official said the program was pro-Taliban and a former colleague said it was enthusiastically pro-American.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our **** up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're **** shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have its training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS **** don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

**** the rules of war. **** the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


****, i'm angry.

End rant.
You ready to kill women and children? Because these people hide behind women and children.

You want to raze whole cities to the ground? Because that's what will have to happen.

Americans don't understand what it would take to actually go after Islamic terror where it lives (everywhere). It is a reality we need to get used to.

There IS something we can do domestically though-

Stop throwing up barriers to good people having a gun in their britches. Every bouncer at that bar in Orlando should have had a heater on him/her/whatever. We will NEVER, EVER, EVER reduce the availability of firearms to criminals who really want them. Gun control laws merely limit access for law abiding citizens and they do nothing to prevent guns getting into the hands of the bad guys. And to be honest, open access to firearms is acceptable to me. The only increase in guns on the street would be of those belonging to the good guys.

If one or two bouncers or bartenders at that bar had been carrying- this guy would not have killed 50 people. Period.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Well said. What also bothers me, is this **** was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our **** up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're **** shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have its training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS **** don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

**** the rules of war. **** the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


****, i'm angry.

End rant.
You ready to kill women and children? Because these people hide behind women and children.

You want to raze whole cities to the ground? Because that's what will have to happen.

Americans don't understand what it would take to actually go after Islamic terror where it lives (everywhere). It is a reality we need to get used to.

There IS something we can do domestically though-

Stop throwing up barriers to good people having a gun in their britches. Every bouncer at that bar in Orlando should have had a heater on him/her/whatever. We will NEVER, EVER, EVER reduce the availability of firearms to criminals who really want them. Gun control laws merely limit access for law abiding citizens and they do nothing to prevent guns getting into the hands of the bad guys. And to be honest, open access to firearms is acceptable to me. The only increase in guns on the street would be of those belonging to the good guys.

If one or two bouncers or bartenders at that bar had been carrying- this guy would not have killed 50 people. Period.
I know what it takes. I know it won't be pretty or neat. I realize that we will have to kill men, women and children (we already are). It wouldn't be the first time we've leveled cities or killed the women and children that these cowards hide behind. So, what's the problem with us finally taking it to them. Enough of the proxy wars. We've got drones, jets, howitzers, etc... let's use them.

These cowards want to meet Allah, well we should be more than happy to arrange the meeting.
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CID, don't be a bigot.

Those gay bouncers are trained to handle confrontation. Here's their training video:

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Cluck U wrote:CID, don't be a bigot.

Those gay bouncers are trained to handle confrontation. Here's their training video:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNMBzlnL68[/youtube]

That is impressive wrist action!
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You ready to kill women and children? Because these people hide behind women and children.

You want to raze whole cities to the ground? Because that's what will have to happen.

Americans don't understand what it would take to actually go after Islamic terror where it lives (everywhere). It is a reality we need to get used to.

There IS something we can do domestically though-

Stop throwing up barriers to good people having a gun in their britches. Every bouncer at that bar in Orlando should have had a heater on him/her/whatever. We will NEVER, EVER, EVER reduce the availability of firearms to criminals who really want them. Gun control laws merely limit access for law abiding citizens and they do nothing to prevent guns getting into the hands of the bad guys. And to be honest, open access to firearms is acceptable to me. The only increase in guns on the street would be of those belonging to the good guys.

If one or two bouncers or bartenders at that bar had been carrying- this guy would not have killed 50 people. Period.
I know what it takes. I know it won't be pretty or neat. I realize that we will have to kill men, women and children (we already are). It wouldn't be the first time we've leveled cities or killed the women and children that these cowards hide behind. So, what's the problem with us finally taking it to them. Enough of the proxy wars. We've got drones, jets, howitzers, etc... let's use them.

These cowards want to meet Allah, well we should be more than happy to arrange the meeting.
We don't have the will to do that. Period.

When we court martial Marines for pissing on dead enemies in a combat zone? We're finished. You might as well be arguing that we should ship all bad people off to a base on Mars.

There are more pragmatic answers. But "let's take the gloves off" isn't one of them because it isn't something we realistically would do. If total war was in our DNA then Vietnam would still be two countries and Korea would be one.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Well said. What also bothers me, is this **** was:
1) on the FBI watch list
2) Family knew he was mentally unstable and abusive
3) Co-worker reported his for racist and violent threats

oh, this nugget


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/fo ... y-profane/

Yet, our **** up country wants to treat guns instead of the person (mentally ill people like Omar or Adam Lanza) and then we're **** shocked when they go off the deep end. We reap what we sow. I know there's no country to go after, but we have an enemy and there's no reason why our military should have its training wheels on. Let our Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines off the leash. If the "good" muslims say these ISIS **** don't speak for them, then they won't be upset when we annihilate them with the most extreme prejudice.

**** the rules of war. **** the Geneva Conventions (they don't matter anyway). We should be launching everything we have at them. Want to wrap up this war and save money? Have everyone converge with everything they've got and assault them. Send the wannabe terrorists into hiding.


But alas, our feckless, dick-less politicians would rather spare the sensitive feelings and lives of ME countries than the minds and lives of our people. There is NOTHING wrong with putting America first. NOTHING.


****, i'm angry.

End rant.
You ready to kill women and children? Because these people hide behind women and children.

You want to raze whole cities to the ground? Because that's what will have to happen.

Americans don't understand what it would take to actually go after Islamic terror where it lives (everywhere). It is a reality we need to get used to.

There IS something we can do domestically though-

Stop throwing up barriers to good people having a gun in their britches. Every bouncer at that bar in Orlando should have had a heater on him/her/whatever. We will NEVER, EVER, EVER reduce the availability of firearms to criminals who really want them. Gun control laws merely limit access for law abiding citizens and they do nothing to prevent guns getting into the hands of the bad guys. And to be honest, open access to firearms is acceptable to me. The only increase in guns on the street would be of those belonging to the good guys.

If one or two bouncers or bartenders at that bar had been carrying- this guy would not have killed 50 people. Period.


WINNER WINNER CHICKEN FRICKEN DINNER!!!!!!!!!!

Guns don't kill people, BAD PEOPLE use guns to kill people. People can be killed by cars and baseball bats but nobody is out calling for them to be banned. Taking guns from law abiding citizens will not stop these tragedies from happening, it'll just make them easier to pull off. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely naïve.
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
I know what it takes. I know it won't be pretty or neat. I realize that we will have to kill men, women and children (we already are). It wouldn't be the first time we've leveled cities or killed the women and children that these cowards hide behind. So, what's the problem with us finally taking it to them. Enough of the proxy wars. We've got drones, jets, howitzers, etc... let's use them.

These cowards want to meet Allah, well we should be more than happy to arrange the meeting.
We don't have the will to do that. Period.

When we court martial Marines for pissing on dead enemies in a combat zone? We're finished. You might as well be arguing that we should ship all bad people off to a base on Mars.

There are more pragmatic answers. But "let's take the gloves off" isn't one of them because it isn't something we realistically would do. If total war was in our DNA then Vietnam would still be two countries and Korea would be one.
I know there's no stomach for it. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't sack up and do whats necessary.
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Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
We don't have the will to do that. Period.

When we court martial Marines for pissing on dead enemies in a combat zone? We're finished. You might as well be arguing that we should ship all bad people off to a base on Mars.

There are more pragmatic answers. But "let's take the gloves off" isn't one of them because it isn't something we realistically would do. If total war was in our DNA then Vietnam would still be two countries and Korea would be one.
I know there's no stomach for it. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't sack up and do whats necessary.
I would say that too but I don't want to sound like my old Vietnam vet uncle who talks about how we could have won that war. It's irrelevant.

When it comes to Islamic terror we have to accept certain truths- one of those is that we aren't going to kill them overseas in any way that deters their activities. We also aren't going to shape up our immigration policies to weed these people out (even suggesting it gets you painted as a bigot and then Mexicans start setting CA on fire).

That's why when I'm in the US I do what I need to do to protect myself and my own family, and to a looser extent, my tribe (which can consist of pretty much anyone near me).

I personally have nothing but contempt for people who will abrogate their personal responsibility to protect themselves in favor of having the government do it for them- because those same people are also responsible for pushing the kinds of regulations that make it hard for me to protect myself and my family.
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Newtown Victim Parent vs Orlando Victim Lover

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LOOK AT THE EARLOBES!!!!! Same fucking guy!!!!
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andy7171 wrote:Newtown Victim Parent vs Orlando Victim Lover

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LOOK AT THE EARLOBES!!!!! Same fucking guy!!!!
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
I know there's no stomach for it. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't sack up and do whats necessary.
I would say that too but I don't want to sound like my old Vietnam vet uncle who talks about how we could have won that war. It's irrelevant.

When it comes to Islamic terror we have to accept certain truths- one of those is that we aren't going to kill them overseas in any way that deters their activities. We also aren't going to shape up our immigration policies to weed these people out (even suggesting it gets you painted as a bigot and then Mexicans start setting CA on fire).

That's why when I'm in the US I do what I need to do to protect myself and my own family, and to a looser extent, my tribe (which can consist of pretty much anyone near me).

I personally have nothing but contempt for people who will abrogate their personal responsibility to protect themselves in favor of having the government do it for them- because those same people are also responsible for pushing the kinds of regulations that make it hard for me to protect myself and my family.


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Gil Dobie wrote:1) Radical Islamist, swears allegiance to ISIS via 911 call.
2) Hates that he saw 2 men kissing.
3) On the FBI Radar 2013 and 2014, passed background check, employed as Security Guard/ with weapon.

You think more gun laws would have stopped this? Instead of blaming a gun how about we start blaming the person that committed this horrific crime.
This^^^. Protecting the population of the US from this type of tragedy should not be demonized.

When guns start executing people, then they should be confronted. As long as it is people pulling triggers, then they should be confronted.
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CID1990 wrote:


You ready to kill women and children? Because these people hide behind women and children.

You want to raze whole cities to the ground? Because that's what will have to happen.

Americans don't understand what it would take to actually go after Islamic terror where it lives (everywhere). It is a reality we need to get used to.

There IS something we can do domestically though-

Stop throwing up barriers to good people having a gun in their britches. Every bouncer at that bar in Orlando should have had a heater on him/her/whatever. We will NEVER, EVER, EVER reduce the availability of firearms to criminals who really want them. Gun control laws merely limit access for law abiding citizens and they do nothing to prevent guns getting into the hands of the bad guys. And to be honest, open access to firearms is acceptable to me. The only increase in guns on the street would be of those belonging to the good guys.

If one or two bouncers or bartenders at that bar had been carrying- this guy would not have killed 50 people. Period.
This ^ is where we are...
It's really not about restricting gun availability (that ship sailed long ago)

and frankly it's embarrassing to me
That gun laws are the primary "attention getter" for the Liberal talking heads
its like they think they can go to the ocean front and sweep the sand back into the bag

It just reveals how utterly stupid they are

NEXT:
Islam is a Guerrilla Religion - it is not Buddhism or Hindu
It uses a bottom up approach by appealing to ones sense of being wronged
which is a HUGE HUGE distinction to grasp
It is not about rising above (like all other major religions)
it is not about appealing to ones greater sense of good

it has a large element about revenge for being wronged
which is exactly the opposite of every other significant religion on earth

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You know, there aren't too many other religions that represent themselves with a sword either. That might have been our first clue back in the 600s.

That and the fact that people's heads kept falling off wherever there were muslims.
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"To the shores of Tripoli"

I wonder how that line got top billing in the Marine Hymn.
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As has been pointed out, gun control only takes guns away from good people.

The problem with limiting guns from mentally ill people (which would be the ideal) is, who makes the call on which of us are mentally ill and the fact that the definition of mental illness is constantly changing, i.e. homosexuality was considered a mental illness in the US until 1974, Gender dysphoria is being debated as to whether it is mental illness or not in scholarly circles recently (i.e. the retired head of psychiatry @ Johns Hopkins published an article on this in 2015 recommended treatment as a mental illness).

Criminals largely get guns on the street outside of legal channels. Law abiding citizens largely get guns through legal channels. Passing gun control laws only impacts legal channels
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andy7171 wrote:"To the shores of Tripoli"

I wonder how that line got top billing in the Marine Hymn.
:rofl:

Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates by Brian Kilmeade is a great read and for those who really don't know is informative.
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