The Sick Man of Europe, Part Deux.DSUrocks07 wrote:Coup fails, very disorganized. Makes me believe that the military was desperate to stop their government from doing something stupid, probably having to do with the airport attack a few weeks back.
More overt support to ISIS incoming, Turkey has become the 21st century "powder keg".
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Who knows, maybe we'll get "Constantinople" back this century. And by "we", I clearly mean Russia (playing the role of begrudging ally to the West).Ivytalk wrote:The Sick Man of Europe, Part Deux.DSUrocks07 wrote:Coup fails, very disorganized. Makes me believe that the military was desperate to stop their government from doing something stupid, probably having to do with the airport attack a few weeks back.
More overt support to ISIS incoming, Turkey has become the 21st century "powder keg".
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What on earth makes you think Democracy would every where it's practiced?JohnStOnge wrote:Again I ask: Do you guys not realize that Trump has been running around saying we should not screw up dictators because if we do it'll screw things up? What on EARTH makes you think he favors supporting democracies?
Though, again, it IS true that before Quaddfi was deposed and it didn't work out all that well he said he wanted Quaddafi deposed. Then of course when it didn't work out all that well he tried to act like HE knew Quaddafi shouldn't have been deposed.
I would say that it's unfortunate for him that he is on video very clearly calling for going after Quaddafi. But it's become clear that Trump zombies don't care about obvious evidence that Trump is completely full of shit.
Anyway, NOW he says Quaddafi should've been left in charge.
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That's nobody's business but the Turks...DSUrocks07 wrote:Who knows, maybe we'll get "Constantinople" back this century. And by "we", I clearly mean Russia (playing the role of begrudging ally to the West).Ivytalk wrote: The Sick Man of Europe, Part Deux.
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I enjoy the fact that Erdogan and the government supporters were able to successfully use social media to rally the millenials to support the government.
They are primed and patriotic now, this is probably why he's putting pressure on the Obama administration to extradite Gulen from Pennsylvania.
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I doubt Turkish generals spend a lot of time thinking about how wonderful democracy is.HI54UNI wrote:Reports of a military coup in Turkey. I wonder if the military finally got tired of Erdogan being a dickhead and his attempts to limit democracy.
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This Gulen dude is interesting. He has one of the largest charter school organizations in the US taking in more than $150 million in government contracts. He's also accused of having ties to the CIA.DSUrocks07 wrote:I enjoy the fact that Erdogan and the government supporters were able to successfully use social media to rally the millenials to support the government.
They are primed and patriotic now, this is probably why he's putting pressure on the Obama administration to extradite Gulen from Pennsylvania.
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Again, you FAIL to acknowledge that Hillary LIED about Q-boy slaughtering his peeps. And she LIED about the peeps rising up to support democracy.JohnStOnge wrote:Again I ask: Do you guys not realize that Trump has been running around saying we should not screw up dictators because if we do it'll screw things up? What on EARTH makes you think he favors supporting democracies?
Though, again, it IS true that before Quaddfi was deposed and it didn't work out all that well he said he wanted Quaddafi deposed. Then of course when it didn't work out all that well he tried to act like HE knew Quaddafi shouldn't have been deposed.
I would say that it's unfortunate for him that he is on video very clearly calling for going after Quaddafi. But it's become clear that Trump zombies don't care about obvious evidence that Trump is completely full of shit.
Anyway, NOW he says Quaddafi should've been left in charge.
ANY conclusions regarding Libya were made using Hillary's, "facts." And those so called facts were derived from a couple of wealthy Libyans who wanted to ride back to Libya to make big money after the US dumped Q-boy.
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kalm wrote:This Gulen dude is interesting. He has one of the largest charter school organizations in the US taking in more than $150 million in government contracts. He's also accused of having ties to the CIA.DSUrocks07 wrote:I enjoy the fact that Erdogan and the government supporters were able to successfully use social media to rally the millenials to support the government.
They are primed and patriotic now, this is probably why he's putting pressure on the Obama administration to extradite Gulen from Pennsylvania.
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This is why the idea of "spreading democracy" in the Middle East need to be handled with care...

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According to US actions they most certainly do.Col. Morris Davis
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If Fethullah Gulen is considered a threat to Erdogan & Turkey's gov't doesn't Turkey have a right to drone strike him in Pennsylvania? @CNN
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kalm wrote:According to US actions they most certainly do.Col. Morris Davis
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If Fethullah Gulen is considered a threat to Erdogan & Turkey's gov't doesn't Turkey have a right to drone strike him in Pennsylvania? @CNN![]()
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If they reinstate the death penalty to do away with these guys that will be the end of their bid for the EU.
We'll see just how badly Erdogan wants to cut off his own nose to spite his face
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kalm wrote:According to US actions they most certainly do.Col. Morris Davis
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If Fethullah Gulen is considered a threat to Erdogan & Turkey's gov't doesn't Turkey have a right to drone strike him in Pennsylvania? @CNN![]()
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I think it will be bigger than that. This is a perfect out for Erdogan to ouster whoever he wants...hell, it has already begun:CID1990 wrote:If they reinstate the death penalty to do away with these guys that will be the end of their bid for the EU.
We'll see just how badly Erdogan wants to cut off his own nose to spite his face
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More than 1,500 university deans have also been ordered to resign and the licences of 21,000 teachers working at private institutions revoked.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36838347The army, judiciary, security and civil service have all been targeted following Friday's coup attempt:
6,000 military personnel have been arrested, with more than two dozen generals awaiting trial
Nearly 9,000 police officers have been sacked
Close to 3,000 judges have been suspended
Some 1,500 employees of Turkey's finance ministry have been dismissed
492 have been fired from the Religious Affairs Directorate
More than 250 staff in Mr Yildirim's office have been removed
Turkey's media regulation body on Tuesday also revoked the licenses of 24 radio and TV channels accused of links to Mr Gulen.
Thought I heard Sam Harris say something like 77% of Turks are ok with Sharia law...and Turkey is a "secular" country. I think we can expect a farther hard-lined right (think Islam) Turkey from here on out.
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You think Turkey has that capability..SDHornet wrote:kalm wrote:
According to US actions they most certainly do.![]()
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No, just that that action would be equivalent to the drone strikes we do all over the globe...but of course that logic escapes you.BDKJMU wrote:You think Turkey has that capability..SDHornet wrote:![]()
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Turkey grounds all US planes over there to fight ISIS, places 1,500 American troops on lockdown and will continue to do so until Gulen is handed over...
Told you so.
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Grizalltheway wrote:Meh, democracy has given us a choice between Hillary and Trump. Maybe it ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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BDK, I've tried to help you with your cocksure use of the dunce emoji before.SDHornet wrote:No, just that that action would be equivalent to the drone strikes we do all over the globe...but of course that logic escapes you.BDKJMU wrote: You think Turkey has that capability..![]()
Please note SD's most excellent use of it here...
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Uh, no it doesn't....SDHornet wrote:No, just that that action would be equivalent to the drone strikes we do all over the globe...but of course that logic escapes you.BDKJMU wrote: You think Turkey has that capability..![]()
And in exactly in which specific countries against which person(s) has the US done drone strikes against would that action be equivalent to?
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Fail..kalm wrote:BDK, I've tried to help you with your cocksure use of the dunce emoji before.SDHornet wrote: No, just that that action would be equivalent to the drone strikes we do all over the globe...but of course that logic escapes you.
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Are you asking when has the US violated airspace to kill someone via drone strike?BDKJMU wrote:Uh, no it doesn't....SDHornet wrote: No, just that that action would be equivalent to the drone strikes we do all over the globe...but of course that logic escapes you.![]()
And in exactly in which specific countries against which person(s) has the US done drone strikes against would that action be equivalent to?
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Like Pakistan?Ibanez wrote:Are you asking when has the US violated airspace to kill someone via drone strike?BDKJMU wrote:
Uh, no it doesn't....![]()
And in exactly in which specific countries against which person(s) has the US done drone strikes against would that action be equivalent to?
Or how about the CIA kidnapping foreign nationals in other countries like Italy? Perhaps Turkey can just come over here and snatch him?
BDK clearly didn't read the article or if he did, wasn't smart enough to get the rhetorical gist of it.
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You're looking for this one:kalm wrote:Like Pakistan?Ibanez wrote: Are you asking when has the US violated airspace to kill someone via drone strike?
Or how about the CIA kidnapping foreign nationals in other countries like Italy? Perhaps Turkey can just come over here and snatch him?
BDK clearly didn't read the article or if he did, wasn't smart enough to get the rhetorical gist of it.
There's an emoji I should use right now, but I don't want to be douche...
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