Donors, politicians and people that matter in the GOP are pretty pissed. He might've shot himself in the foot (which I hope he did.)Ivytalk wrote:Except Charles didn't use the term "Boobs."HI54UNI wrote:I like Krauthammer's comment on Boobs's speech-
"Last night what Boobs delivered was the longest suicide note in American political history," Krauthammer said.
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I'm not a huge Ted C-R-U-Z fan, but I thought his speech was gutsy. He refused to endorse Trump for his own good reasons, and he suffered the howls of the Trump troglodytes as a consequence. Ted will be back, if there is a GOP to come back to in 2020.
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Donors, politicians, and people that matter in the GOP are also pretty pissed about Trump. Everyone thought that would bite him in the ass eventually... nope.
Shit's all unpredictable. Who knows... maybe Cruz wins in 2020.
Shit's all unpredictable. Who knows... maybe Cruz wins in 2020.
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One thing that should happen is that a few of these smaller parties can merge and become more of a tour de force.
Hell in Canada they have a straight up "Liberal" and "Conservative" Parties on their ballots.
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Turned it on to see a bunch of old, white people dancing to a shitty AC/DC cover. Immediately regretted that decision.


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The best thing TCruz could've done was just refuse to speak at the Convention. But the Republicans that really show a lack of integrity are those who support Trump just because he has an "R" after his name.
Asking people of integrity to vote for Trump because it's either him or Hillary is like asking people to vote for Hitler because it's either him or Mussolini. Yes, the magnitudes of the evils are dramatically different. But that's what it's like. It's "If you don't vote for vomiting it's going to be diarrhea!"
A Republican leader would say, "Look, I know Republican primary voters selected him but he's just a totally unacceptable candidate who is not qualified to be President and would be dangerous if he got into the position. Sorry, but I'm not supporting him."
That's what leaders do. Leaders don't go along with the crowd when the crowd is obviously way off base.
Asking people of integrity to vote for Trump because it's either him or Hillary is like asking people to vote for Hitler because it's either him or Mussolini. Yes, the magnitudes of the evils are dramatically different. But that's what it's like. It's "If you don't vote for vomiting it's going to be diarrhea!"
A Republican leader would say, "Look, I know Republican primary voters selected him but he's just a totally unacceptable candidate who is not qualified to be President and would be dangerous if he got into the position. Sorry, but I'm not supporting him."
That's what leaders do. Leaders don't go along with the crowd when the crowd is obviously way off base.
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No, the Republicans who show a lack of itegrity are those who early in the year took a pledge to support the eventual nominee, and now refuse to carry forth with their pledge. Shows a complete lack of integrity & character..JohnStOnge wrote:The best thing Boobs could've done was just refuse to speak at the Convention. But the Republicans that really show a lack of integrity are those who support Trump just because he has an "R" after his name.
Asking people of integrity to vote for Trump because it's either him or Hillary is like asking people to vote for Hitler because it's either him or Mussolini. Yes, the magnitudes of the evils are dramatically different. But that's what it's like. It's "If you don't vote for vomiting it's going to be diarrhea!"
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I think that everyone would agree that there is a point at which the proper thing to do is break such a pledge. For example: Everyone takes such a pledge. A guy wins the nomination. Then after he wins the nomination it's learned that, though somehow it's escaped detection until now, the guy has said he believes in the extermination of Jews. Of COURSE nobody who took the pledge is going to stick to it.BDKJMU wrote:No, the Republicans who show a lack of itegrity are those who early in the year took a pledge to support the eventual nominee, and now refuse to carry forth with their pledge. Shows a complete lack of integrity & character..JohnStOnge wrote:The best thing Boobs could've done was just refuse to speak at the Convention. But the Republicans that really show a lack of integrity are those who support Trump just because he has an "R" after his name.
Asking people of integrity to vote for Trump because it's either him or Hillary is like asking people to vote for Hitler because it's either him or Mussolini. Yes, the magnitudes of the evils are dramatically different. But that's what it's like. It's "If you don't vote for vomiting it's going to be diarrhea!"
Now, I know you don't think anything Trump did is bad enough to justify breaking the pledge. But the point is that we all would agree that there is some point in which deciding not to honor such a pledge is the right thing to do.
When they made that pledge I don't think any of those guys had any idea of just how bad Trump would be. They had no way of knowing how off the wall and unacceptable some of the things he would say and do would be. The guy went beyond the pale numerous times, showed himself to be a pathological liar, etc., etc.
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BTW I'd bet that after this you will NEVER see someone take such a pledge again. Doing so and having an abomination like Trump win the nomination very dramatically illustrated the folly of doing something like that.
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Peter Theil just told the RNC that he's proud to be gay, and that he's proud to be an American, to thunderous applause.
The GOP is accepting to gays AND transgenders now? Red alert to the Clinton camp.
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Why? They're meaningless. Our shitty electorate has proven that they don't hold people accountable.JohnStOnge wrote:BTW I'd bet that after this you will NEVER see someone take such a pledge again. Doing so and having an abomination like Trump win the nomination very dramatically illustrated the folly of doing something like that.
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With that news, dback should be on suicide watch.DSUrocks07 wrote:Peter Theil just told the RNC that he's proud to be gay, and that he's proud to be an American, to thunderous applause.
The GOP is accepting to gays AND transgenders now? Red alert to the Clinton camp.
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Ok, I will admit it....Trump is doing a good job. Too bad most of the rest of the convention was a circus.
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He is truly crushing it. I like his chances a lot better after hearing how he has framed Hillary and how he has laid out his plan. It's going to be a tough debate season for the Hilldog. I don't see how she can dig out of the grave of her own record as SoS. His America First theme is a winner.Pwns wrote:Ok, I will admit it....Trump is doing a good job. Too bad most of the rest of the convention was a circus.
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Van Jones on CNN - what a fucking sterotyping bigot. He couldn't believe that the RNC didn't either boo Thiel or go silent.DSUrocks07 wrote:Peter Theil just told the RNC that he's proud to be gay, and that he's proud to be an American, to thunderous applause.
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Home run by Ttump.. 
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I agree. He really did himself well tonight.BDKJMU wrote:Home run by Ttump..
Of course, liberal pundits want to continue the whole, "he thinks he's Hitler" narrative.
He has them running scared.
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Trump's delivery sucked. 76 minutes of yelling.

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Wait until you hear the screech owl next Thursday night. You'll be begging for Trump to come back out.CAA Flagship wrote:Trump's delivery sucked. 76 minutes of yelling.![]()
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He is a piece of work.SeattleGriz wrote:Van Jones on CNN - what a fucking sterotyping bigot. He couldn't believe that the RNC didn't either boo Thiel or go silent.DSUrocks07 wrote:Peter Theil just told the RNC that he's proud to be gay, and that he's proud to be an American, to thunderous applause.
The GOP is accepting to gays AND transgenders now? Red alert to the Clinton camp.
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But I really like to hear his side of things. While I disagree often and think he takes the side of being too sensitive, I find it amazing sometimes with what he comes up with. He's the kind of guy that would go to see a popular movie at a theater and remark afterwards that more people chose Goobers rather than Raisinets.
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Have you seen your candidate? I'm pretty sure she can check both boxesSkjellyfetti wrote:Turned it on to see a bunch of old, white people dancing to a shitty AC/DC cover. Immediately regretted that decision.
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At least she has great fashion sense.ASUG8 wrote:Have you seen your candidate? I'm pretty sure she can check both boxesSkjellyfetti wrote:Turned it on to see a bunch of old, white people dancing to a shitty AC/DC cover. Immediately regretted that decision.

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Must.....not.......fap.......at......work...........93henfan wrote:At least she has great fashion sense.ASUG8 wrote:
Have you seen your candidate? I'm pretty sure she can check both boxes
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93henfan wrote:Wait until you hear the screech owl next Thursday night. You'll be begging for Trump to come back out.CAA Flagship wrote:Trump's delivery sucked. 76 minutes of yelling.![]()

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Pwns wrote:93henfan wrote:
Wait until you hear the screech owl next Thursday night. You'll be begging for Trump to come back out.
"Blah blah blah GOP hates hispanics blah blah blah War on wimmin' blah blah blah black lives matter blah blah blah more refugees blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
I watch CNN on purpose just for the entertainment value of watching the liberal spin.
Listening to last night's panel after Trump's speech, you would have thought that the ghost of Hitler had just reappeared and announced the final solution for blacks, hispanics, and muslims. The black male host said that he had never been more scared to be an American. The hispanic woman went on a screaming rant about how he was calling all hispanics rapists and murderers. I mean, they didn't even listen to the man. They just created a speech that wasn't given. Total spin. They said the speech was dark, dividing, etc. Every negative they could throw on it. You'd have thought Trump gave a dud of a speech rather than the masterful speech he actually gave.
Now, watch all the flowery nonsense they heap next week. I actually enjoy watching them work. It's like a train wreck watching the dishonesty of the Clinton News Network. Frankly, I can't turn it off. It's too entertaining.
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