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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Meh. What did you expect when your candidate opens up the immigration debate by calling Team Brown rapists and murderers? A common sense approach to immigration would have gotten plenty of Team Brown folks on board, instead conks did nothing to address immigration reform and double down by delivering Trump.
Why are you referring to all of 'Team Brown' as illegals from Mexico?
We're all in this together. My mom immigrated here legally but my family has plenty of cousins that aren't here legally but have been here for decades and in the process have paid taxes, stayed out of trouble, worked hard and contributed positively to society and yet conks get behind a guy that (initially) claims to want to deport everyone not legal. Trump couldn't have failed any more with Team Brown even if he tr...well actually I think he tried and succeeded at failing at gaining the Brown vote. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote: He didn't, but this election cycle exemplifies that perception is reality and unfortunately that is all that matters in today's society. The other component to this was the right wing branch of the conk party eviscerating anyone even thinking of bringing forth a common sense pathway to citizenship for immigrants. conks lost the immigration debate long before Trump ill-fated comments.
There is a common sense pathway to citizenship for immigrants. :roll:
Yeah, hard to believe ain't it?
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There is a common sense pathway to citizenship for immigrants. :roll:
Yeah, hard to believe ain't it?
Ok, I see we agree on that issue for legal immigrants..
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Just to update:

Current RealClearPolitics averages.

Clinton: Favorable 43.0%, Unfavorable 53.5%

Trump: Favorable 33.0%, Unfavorable 62.7%

The Democrats have and always have had a weak candidate? So what do the Republican primary voters do? I think you can see.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Just to update:

Current RealClearPolitics averages.

Clinton: Favorable 43.0%, Unfavorable 53.5%

Trump: Favorable 33.0%, Unfavorable 62.7%

The Democrats have and always have had a weak candidate? So what do the Republican primary voters do? I think you can see.
Question: Do you hate Trump for the things he says, or because they are undignified and represent Republicans in a negative light?
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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Just to update:

Current RealClearPolitics averages.

Clinton: Favorable 43.0%, Unfavorable 53.5%

Trump: Favorable 33.0%, Unfavorable 62.7%

The Democrats have and always have had a weak candidate? So what do the Republican primary voters do? I think you can see.
Question: Do you hate Trump for the things he says, or because they are undignified and represent Republicans in a negative light?
I dislike Trump because of what he is. He is a thoroughly dishonest demagogue. And he's a world class asshole. I also, as I've said many times, think he is mentally ill and I don't want a mentally ill person as President of the United States.

With respect to the Republican Party: I do think that the best thing that can happen for the Republican Party given that the primary electorate put it in this position is for Trump to lose in a huge landslide so that the chances of this sort of thing happening again are minimized.
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SDHornet wrote: I expected this once Rubio folded. The large majority will buy the bullshit the donks spew just like the blacks have been. It's sad really...but of course immigration is the hot button issue and Trump alienated us from the jump.
Yeah, too bad Team Brown doesn't respect the U.S.ofA. as a nation.

I support immigration...but not a flood of any immigrant that feel like crossing the border on their own terms.

If you start off invading this country, than shows no respect towards the people who are here.

But, give people free stuff and don't hold them accountable for their actions...a great way to build a voter base for socialism. And a great way to divide a nation.
I live about 6 miles, just like I used to walk to school, from a small town that Team Brown has brought back from the dead. Watched it happen over the past 20 years.
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You need to get out past your front lawn more. The lefties here are calling her "war monger" and "more of the same". She'd lose this election handily if her opponent weren't a scarecrow.
I personally know more bernie folks who easily jumped on the hilldog train rather than either 1) sided with Stien/Johnson or 2) are deciding not to vote. Sure you can say Trump is the reason for that but I'm willing to put my house on the line that there would have been little to no difference had the "best" of any of the other conk candidates made it. Maybe Rubio (Brown card) would have brought on some of those folks simply for the "getting one of our own" in the WH factor...maybe.

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Yeah, too bad Team Brown doesn't respect the U.S.ofA. as a nation.

I support immigration...but not a flood of any immigrant that feel like crossing the border on their own terms.

If you start off invading this country, than shows no respect towards the people who are here.

But, give people free stuff and don't hold them accountable for their actions...a great way to build a voter base for socialism. And a great way to divide a nation.
I live about 6 miles, just like I used to walk to school, from a small town that Team Brown has brought back from the dead. Watched it happen over the past 20 years.
And that has what to do with anything I wrote? :suspicious:

If Team Brown is supporting a whole load of peeps that are coming here illegally, then Team Brown is simply saying, "Fvck you, America." :nod:

I respect the legal immigrants. Love people that believe in opportunity for Americans...and those who become legal Americans.

But, if you come here illegally, then fvck you. Get off your lazy ass and find a way to make yourself a citizen.
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SDHornet wrote:
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Why are you referring to all of 'Team Brown' as illegals from Mexico?
We're all in this together. My mom immigrated here legally but my family has plenty of cousins that aren't here legally but have been here for decades and in the process have paid taxes, stayed out of trouble, worked hard and contributed positively to society and yet conks get behind a guy that (initially) claims to want to deport everyone not legal. Trump couldn't have failed any more with Team Brown even if he tr...well actually I think he tried and succeeded at failing at gaining the Brown vote. :lol:
We had a President who pardoned a bunch of illegals a short time ago. And guess what? Instead of respecting this country and the laws, they brought in or helped out even more illegal people. :ohno:

That is why a lot of people simply see Team Brown as a bunch of lying ass clowns...and deservedly so. Those who are here legally as citizens should be upset at those who keep coming over the border and invading our country. Instead, they turn their backs on this country and, as the racists they are, simply put Brown in front of Red, White and Blue. :nod:
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Yeah, too bad Team Brown doesn't respect the U.S.ofA. as a nation.

I support immigration...but not a flood of any immigrant that feel like crossing the border on their own terms.

If you start off invading this country, than shows no respect towards the people who are here.

But, give people free stuff and don't hold them accountable for their actions...a great way to build a voter base for socialism. And a great way to divide a nation.
I live about 6 miles, just like I used to walk to school, from a small town that Team Brown has brought back from the dead. Watched it happen over the past 20 years.
BTW, sorry houndy...but if you invade my home and fix up a room for yourself, that isn't respect...it is saying "Fvck you, I'm invading your home and doing whatever I want...your wishes be damned."
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I live about 6 miles, just like I used to walk to school, from a small town that Team Brown has brought back from the dead. Watched it happen over the past 20 years.
BTW, sorry houndy...but if you invade my home and fix up a room for yourself, that isn't respect...it is saying "Fvck you, I'm invading your home and doing whatever I want...your wishes be damned."
Good grief, what are you challenging JSO for his Drama Queen title?

There wouldn't be any illegals in the country if there weren't any work for them. You're soiling your panty shield over a problem that could be solved with a stroke of the pen overnight. Start throwing employers in jail and the "problem" vanishes tout suite. Don't go JSO on us, bro, it doesn't have to be like that.... :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
BTW, sorry houndy...but if you invade my home and fix up a room for yourself, that isn't respect...it is saying "Fvck you, I'm invading your home and doing whatever I want...your wishes be damned."
Good grief, what are you challenging JSO for his Drama Queen title?

There wouldn't be any illegals in the country if there weren't any work for them. You're soiling your panty shield over a problem that could be solved with a stroke of the pen overnight. Start throwing employers in jail and the "problem" vanishes tout suite. Don't go JSO on us, bro, it doesn't have to be like that.... :ohno:
I agree that we should jail the employers. :nod:

The union folks should be on board with that, but they have sold out their union members...and the union members have sold their souls to the Democratic party.

It is absolutely amazing that union people continue to vote for Dems while the Dems like Clinton spend their time focused on international conquest and personal enrichment rather than investing in our infrastructure.

But, your claim that the illegals would vanish if we arrest the employers is hyperbole. First of all, there's an underground, cash driven economy that would still bring in many illegals. Secondly, free education, free health care, anchor baby citizenship, and family ties to those already here is a HUGE draw for illegals.

We should revoke any citizenship for those who harbor illegals, including family members and those in the churches. We should also send packing the clowns who create sanctuary cities.

Open up immigration so that more people can come here. Talented people are needed. But we should not have an open door immigration policy, which is essentially what we have now.
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Cluck U wrote: We should revoke any citizenship for those who harbor illegals, including family members and those in the churches.

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houndawg wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
BTW, sorry houndy...but if you invade my home and fix up a room for yourself, that isn't respect...it is saying "Fvck you, I'm invading your home and doing whatever I want...your wishes be damned."
Good grief, what are you challenging JSO for his Drama Queen title?

There wouldn't be any illegals in the country if there weren't any work for them. You're soiling your panty shield over a problem that could be solved with a stroke of the pen overnight. Start throwing employers in jail and the "problem" vanishes tout suite. Don't go JSO on us, bro, it doesn't have to be like that.... :ohno:
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Cluck U wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I live about 6 miles, just like I used to walk to school, from a small town that Team Brown has brought back from the dead. Watched it happen over the past 20 years.
And that has what to do with anything I wrote? :suspicious:

If Team Brown is supporting a whole load of peeps that are coming here illegally, then Team Brown is simply saying, "Fvck you, America." :nod:

I respect the legal immigrants. Love people that believe in opportunity for Americans...and those who become legal Americans.

But, if you come here illegally, then fvck you. Get off your lazy ass and find a way to make yourself a citizen.
Do you feel the same way about those employers that hire them in the first place? After all there would be a much smaller amount of illegal immigrants if not for those employers exploiting their cheap labor. :coffee:
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Cluck U wrote:
SDHornet wrote: We're all in this together. My mom immigrated here legally but my family has plenty of cousins that aren't here legally but have been here for decades and in the process have paid taxes, stayed out of trouble, worked hard and contributed positively to society and yet conks get behind a guy that (initially) claims to want to deport everyone not legal. Trump couldn't have failed any more with Team Brown even if he tr...well actually I think he tried and succeeded at failing at gaining the Brown vote. :lol:
We had a President who pardoned a bunch of illegals a short time ago. And guess what? Instead of respecting this country and the laws, they brought in or helped out even more illegal people. :ohno:

That is why a lot of people simply see Team Brown as a bunch of lying ass clowns...and deservedly so. Those who are here legally as citizens should be upset at those who keep coming over the border and invading our country. Instead, they turn their backs on this country and, as the racists they are, simply put Brown in front of Red, White and Blue. :nod:
That's because beefing up and enforcing border security (which was part of the deal) was never done. And that is why securing the border is an essential part of any immigration reform.

And on your second point, yes those older immigrants are the ones who will be having their jobs taken by this current/next wave of immigrants. They have every reason to support immigration reform, so conks missed on a yuge opportunity to gain lee way with Team Brown on that one. Imagine what conks would be able to throw in the face of donks this election cycle if the conk congress would have gotten a reasonable immigration reform bill on Obama's desk.

And Team Brown being racist? Ha. Minorities can't be racists, only whites. Where have you been?
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houndawg wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
BTW, sorry houndy...but if you invade my home and fix up a room for yourself, that isn't respect...it is saying "Fvck you, I'm invading your home and doing whatever I want...your wishes be damned."
Good grief, what are you challenging JSO for his Drama Queen title?

There wouldn't be any illegals in the country if there weren't any work for them. You're soiling your panty shield over a problem that could be solved with a stroke of the pen overnight. Start throwing employers in jail and the "problem" vanishes tout suite. Don't go JSO on us, bro, it doesn't have to be like that.... :ohno:
This. The xenophobes want to put all the blame on the illegals, but the lions share of them are coming here to better their economic situation, which of course wouldn't be possible if they weren't being hired in the first place. :coffee:
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I am amazed that I am still amazed at how good the Teflon coating on the Clinton's really is. Lead story yesterday should be the new missing e-mails and the incredible number of Clinton Foundation donors getting meetings with Hillary, but the national network news instead decides to report on Trump's claims of her being physically unfit for office instead. They hint at the other story, but then actually don't even talk about it.
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Cluck U wrote: We should revoke any citizenship for those who harbor illegals, including family members and those in the churches.

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I :rofl: at that one too. :lol: :dunce:
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89Hen wrote:I am amazed that I am still amazed at how good the Teflon coating on the Clinton's really is. Lead story yesterday should be the new missing e-mails and the incredible number of Clinton Foundation donors getting meetings with Hillary, but the national network news instead decides to report on Trump's claims of her being physically unfit for office instead. They hint at the other story, but then actually don't even talk about it.
This article was about the 4th one from the top on the Yahoo home page:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Judici ... id/744622/
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89Hen wrote:Lead story yesterday should be the new missing e-mails and the incredible number of Clinton Foundation donors getting meetings with Hillary, but the national network news instead decides to report on Trump's claims of her being physically unfit for office instead.
Trump is an idiot and can't keep his mouth shut.

If he shut up for 1 week and stuck to a basic, straightforward stump speech... and suspended his twitter account... he'd get a bump nationwide and in every swing state. He just can't do it. This is the way he won the Republican nomination... and, he just doesn't know, understand, or care about another strategy.
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Now I get it. If the Teflon gets a scratch, guys like Hornet and Jelly are there to apply another coat.
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SDHornet wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
And that has what to do with anything I wrote? :suspicious:

If Team Brown is supporting a whole load of peeps that are coming here illegally, then Team Brown is simply saying, "Fvck you, America." :nod:

I respect the legal immigrants. Love people that believe in opportunity for Americans...and those who become legal Americans.

But, if you come here illegally, then fvck you. Get off your lazy ass and find a way to make yourself a citizen.
Do you feel the same way about those employers that hire them in the first place? After all there would be a much smaller amount of illegal immigrants if not for those employers exploiting their cheap labor. :coffee:
Yes. :nod:

Jail the employers...and if they get caught a second time, they can set up their next business in Mexico.

Black, White, Brown, Purple, Pink...I don't care. Well, hold on...unless those Purple people are JMU fans...they should apply for their own subdivision on another continent. Regardless...we are either a country with citizens, or we are not. If you are here illegally, or supporting someone who is here illegally, then get the fvck out. :nod:
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SDHornet wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
We had a President who pardoned a bunch of illegals a short time ago. And guess what? Instead of respecting this country and the laws, they brought in or helped out even more illegal people. :ohno:

That is why a lot of people simply see Team Brown as a bunch of lying ass clowns...and deservedly so. Those who are here legally as citizens should be upset at those who keep coming over the border and invading our country. Instead, they turn their backs on this country and, as the racists they are, simply put Brown in front of Red, White and Blue. :nod:
That's because beefing up and enforcing border security (which was part of the deal) was never done. And that is why securing the border is an essential part of any immigration reform.

And on your second point, yes those older immigrants are the ones who will be having their jobs taken by this current/next wave of immigrants. They have every reason to support immigration reform, so conks missed on a yuge opportunity to gain lee way with Team Brown on that one. Imagine what conks would be able to throw in the face of donks this election cycle if the conk congress would have gotten a reasonable immigration reform bill on Obama's desk.

And Team Brown being racist? Ha. Minorities can't be racists, only whites. Where have you been?
My White privilege is preventing me from seeing the fine print in my dictionary that is written, oddly enough, in black and white.

As far as the border security goes...yeah, we need to increase security...build a wall. But, you saw how the leeches reacted to that, didn't you? :suspicious: :lol:

The problem is not the wall, or whatever security is provided...the problem is the feeling of entitlement of, and lack of action taken against, the people here who are helping the illegals come over. Try to enforce any existing regulations and you are called a racist...not because the term, "racist" is accurate (it isn't), but because it is an effective term to get people frothing at the mouth when used in the presence of low information, anarchist, race first (is that better?) ass clowns. :nod:

Face it, Team Brown, for the most part, is putting race first. THEY are identifying themselves as a unified front of color. They aren't saying, "Hey, I am an American who supports other Americans"...they are saying, "I am a BROWN person supporting other BROWN people."

That is racist. :nod:
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