What's your Spandos secret?

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[93henfan]

Since we're on this topic....

...are we living in a simulation? It's an interesting theory that is hard to disprove.

[Ibanez]

Theologically, you can only travel to another time that has the ability. So, if time travel is invented tomorrow, then Sept 10, 2016 is the earliest you ever be able to go back in time to. In other words, you can't travel in time to a specific point in time when the ability to time travel didn't exist.

I got that from Neil D. Tyson. But it makes sense. If time travel is invented on Sept 9, 2016, you can't go back to any date earlier than that when the capability didn't exist.

[clenz]

The only part of the alien thing that makes me skeptical of their existence is that we should have been publicly visited by now. Kind of like my problem with time travel... it can't exist. If it did, somebody from the future would have spilled the beans or effed up somewhere making it known.

Theologically, you can only travel to another time that has the ability. So, if time travel is invented tomorrow, then Sept 10, 2016 is the earliest you ever be able to go back in time to. In other words, you can't travel in time to a specific point in time when the ability to time travel didn't exist.

Why? The device to time travel would be self contained. As long as you have enough "gas to power the thing back to the present" so to speak there should be no issues

[93henfan]

This whole thread reminds me of the campfire scene in Easy Rider with Nicholson, Fonda, and Hopper.

We all need a joint.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgiQPdPUNvs[/youtube]

[89Hen]

I got that from Neil D. Tyson. But it makes sense. If time travel is invented on Sept 9, 2016, you can't go back to any date earlier than that when the capability didn't exist.

I don't think so.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Awjy-MYCP8[/youtube]

[Ibanez]

Goddamnit, now I have to find the podcast where he said it.

[Ibanez]

Theologically, you can only travel to another time that has the ability. So, if time travel is invented tomorrow, then Sept 10, 2016 is the earliest you ever be able to go back in time to. In other words, you can't travel in time to a specific point in time when the ability to time travel didn't exist.

Why? The device to time travel would be self contained. As long as you have enough "gas to power the thing back to the present" so to speak there should be no issues

Again, i think the premise was you can't us a technology to go to a time when the technology didn't exist. W/o multiple black holes and other astro-physic stuff.


Assholes, now i have to find the podcast where he said it.

[Ibanez]

Since we're on this topic....

...are we living in a simulation? It's an interesting theory that is hard to disprove.

I think Spandos believes we are.

Or aren't.


Hey, who's bogartin' that joint?

[kalm]

Not true. The laws of physics (including time, space, and relativity) for this universe have existed since, well, the beginning of this universe. You should be able to travel all the way back to when this science experiment started. And I heard the giant kid who started it looks like Andy, but his parents named him God Damn.

MOTHER FUCKER!

No...that's his brother's name.

[bandl]

Why? The device to time travel would be self contained. As long as you have enough "gas to power the thing back to the present" so to speak there should be no issues

Again, i think the premise was you can't us a technology to go to a time when the technology didn't exist. W/o multiple black holes and other astro-physic stuff.


Assholes, now i have to find the podcast where he said it.

OSBanez, you should just admit your mistake, walk away, and be done with this. Don't try to convince us all of something like 21 divided by 3 is 6.93. In the end you'll just end up being a little bitch crying in the corner because your feelings and holes are hurt.

[GannonFan]

Why? The device to time travel would be self contained. As long as you have enough "gas to power the thing back to the present" so to speak there should be no issues

Again, i think the premise was you can't us a technology to go to a time when the technology didn't exist. W/o multiple black holes and other astro-physic stuff.


Assholes, now i have to find the podcast where he said it.

Phineas and Ferb's time machine went back further beyond when they had made it. That settles it for me frankly. Oh, and aglets.

[Ibanez]

Again, i think the premise was you can't us a technology to go to a time when the technology didn't exist. W/o multiple black holes and other astro-physic stuff.


Assholes, now i have to find the podcast where he said it.

OSBanez, you should just admit your mistake, walk away, and be done with this. Don't try to convince us all of something like 21 divided by 3 is 6.93. In the end you'll just end up being a little bitch crying in the corner because your feelings and holes are hurt.

No, I don't think I've made a mistake (at least not intentional) and if I have I assume it's attributing something to Tyson or suggesting it's impossible instead of improbable.

I'm listening to the interview now, from Jul 2012.

Einstein's Theory of Relativity says that time only flows in one direction: forward. The law of causality may ALSO suggest that it wouldn't be probable.

Nobody knows, but it makes sense to me that you can't venture into the past with a technology if that technology hasn't existed. Unless you harness enough energy and are able to travel through wormholes.


EDIT: It was Carl Sagan, not Neil D. Tyson. Sorry bandle.

[bandl]

OSBanez, you should just admit your mistake, walk away, and be done with this. Don't try to convince us all of something like 21 divided by 3 is 6.93. In the end you'll just end up being a little bitch crying in the corner because your feelings and holes are hurt.

No, I don't think I've made a mistake (at least not intentional) and if I have I assume it's attributing something to Tyson or suggesting it's impossible instead of improbable.

I'm listening to the interview now, from Jul 2012.

Einstein's Theory of Relativity says that time only flows in one direction: forward. The law of causality may ALSO suggest that it wouldn't be probable.

Nobody knows, but it makes sense to me that you can't venture into the past with a technology if that technology hasn't existed. Unless you harness enough energy and are able to travel through wormholes.

Sure.
What does that have to do with theology?

[Ibanez]

No, I don't think I've made a mistake (at least not intentional) and if I have I assume it's attributing something to Tyson or suggesting it's impossible instead of improbable.

I'm listening to the interview now, from Jul 2012.

Einstein's Theory of Relativity says that time only flows in one direction: forward. The law of causality may ALSO suggest that it wouldn't be probable.

Nobody knows, but it makes sense to me that you can't venture into the past with a technology if that technology hasn't existed. Unless you harness enough energy and are able to travel through wormholes.

Sure.
What does that have to do with theology?

Who is Theo?

[Ibanez]

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... sible.html

Through the wormhole, the scientist can see himself as he was one minute ago. But what if our scientist uses the wormhole to shoot his earlier self? He's now dead. So who fired the shot? It's a paradox. It just doesn't make sense. It's the sort of situation that gives cosmologists nightmares.

"This kind of time machine would violate a fundamental rule that governs the entire universe - that causes happen before effects, and never the other way around. I believe things can't make themselves impossible. If they could then there'd be nothing to stop the whole universe from descending into chaos. So I think something will always happen that prevents the paradox. Somehow there must be a reason why our scientist will never find himself in a situation where he could shoot himself. And in this case, I'm sorry to say, the wormhole itself is the problem.

"In the end, I think a wormhole like this one can't exist. And the reason for that is feedback. If you've ever been to a rock gig, you'll probably recognise this screeching noise. It's feedback. What causes it is simple. Sound enters the microphone. It's transmitted along the wires, made louder by the amplifier, and comes out at the speakers. But if too much of the sound from the speakers goes back into the mic it goes around and around in a loop getting louder each time. If no one stops it, feedback can destroy the sound system.

"The same thing will happen with a wormhole, only with radiation instead of sound. As soon as the wormhole expands, natural radiation will enter it, and end up in a loop. The feedback will become so strong it destroys the wormhole. So although tiny wormholes do exist, and it may be possible to inflate one some day, it won't last long enough to be of use as a time machine. That's the real reason no one could come back in time to my party.

"Any kind of time travel to the past through wormholes or any other method is probably impossible, otherwise paradoxes would occur. So sadly, it looks like time travel to the past is never going to happen. A disappointment for dinosaur hunters and a relief for historians.

Stephen M'Fin Hawking

[bandl]

Sure.
What does that have to do with theology?

Who is Theo?

Your boyfriend. Boom. Burn.

Theologically, you can only travel to another time that has the ability. So, if time travel is invented tomorrow, then Sept 10, 2016 is the earliest you ever be able to go back in time to. In other words, you can't travel in time to a specific point in time when the ability to time travel didn't exist.

[Ibanez]

Who is Theo?

Your boyfriend. Boom. Burn.

Theologically, you can only travel to another time that has the ability. So, if time travel is invented tomorrow, then Sept 10, 2016 is the earliest you ever be able to go back in time to. In other words, you can't travel in time to a specific point in time when the ability to time travel didn't exist.

Boom. A typo.

[bandl]

Your boyfriend. Boom. Burn.

Boom. A typo.

O'Doyle Rules!!!!

Although, theologically, I think you're gay

[Ibanez]

Boom. A typo.

O'Doyle Rules!!!!

Although, theologically, I think you're gay

Theologically speaking, you're a chode.


But I'm not here to judge.

[89Hen]

Sticky, is your monthly visitor around?

[bandl]

O'Doyle Rules!!!!

Although, theologically, I think you're gay

Theologically speaking, you're a chode.


But I'm not here to judge.

Soooooo......where did everyone else go?

[bandl]

Ne'mind...

[89Hen]

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... sible.html

Through the wormhole, the scientist can see himself as he was one minute ago. But what if our scientist uses the wormhole to shoot his earlier self? He's now dead. So who fired the shot? It's a paradox. It just doesn't make sense. It's the sort of situation that gives cosmologists nightmares.

"This kind of time machine would violate a fundamental rule that governs the entire universe - that causes happen before effects, and never the other way around. I believe things can't make themselves impossible. If they could then there'd be nothing to stop the whole universe from descending into chaos. So I think something will always happen that prevents the paradox. Somehow there must be a reason why our scientist will never find himself in a situation where he could shoot himself. And in this case, I'm sorry to say, the wormhole itself is the problem.

"In the end, I think a wormhole like this one can't exist. And the reason for that is feedback. If you've ever been to a rock gig, you'll probably recognise this screeching noise. It's feedback. What causes it is simple. Sound enters the microphone. It's transmitted along the wires, made louder by the amplifier, and comes out at the speakers. But if too much of the sound from the speakers goes back into the mic it goes around and around in a loop getting louder each time. If no one stops it, feedback can destroy the sound system.

"The same thing will happen with a wormhole, only with radiation instead of sound. As soon as the wormhole expands, natural radiation will enter it, and end up in a loop. The feedback will become so strong it destroys the wormhole. So although tiny wormholes do exist, and it may be possible to inflate one some day, it won't last long enough to be of use as a time machine. That's the real reason no one could come back in time to my party.

"Any kind of time travel to the past through wormholes or any other method is probably impossible, otherwise paradoxes would occur. So sadly, it looks like time travel to the past is never going to happen. A disappointment for dinosaur hunters and a relief for historians.

Stephen M'Fin Hawking

And? That speaks nothing to what you said above. This more proves my point if anything.

[Ibanez]

Sticky, is your monthly visitor around?

Oh, a menstruation joke. Clever.