Well, the post you were responding to was taking specifically about the Tulsa case...CAA Flagship wrote:First of all, my statement was a generalization. It was not meant to address a specific case. Not sure why your response is attacking me as it relates to a specific case. I haven't voiced an opinion on the Tulsa, or Charlotte, case.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Well, first of all... you should know he has a gun before opening fire, right?
And, second... the Tulsa police department has said that the officer meant to use her taser... but, used her gun instead. They aren't saying that the guy was noncompliant, and therefore justifiably shot. They weren't saying he reached into his car and the officer shot thinking he was going to pull a gun on her.
They're saying she wanted to use her taser... but, used her gun instead.
I think that helps eliminate racism as any kind of reason (though, the officer on the radio saying he "looks like a bad dude" because he's a large black man doesn't help in that regard).
If I accidentally shoot and kill someone - I'm probably going to be charged with manslaughter. Cops need to be treated the same. None of the typical: "Ooops! We'll put her on 6 months paid administrative leave!! That'll teach her!"
The dude messed up by being non-compliant. The cop messed up.... far, far worse by accidentally shooting the guy.
But, for whatever reason you don't want to admit that the cop fucked up. Why is that?
Go back and read the thread.
CAA Flagship wrote:IF he has a gun, and is not complying to the commands, why give him a chance to fire the first shot? Tasers are not as accurate and not as quick acting. I can't blame an officer for shooting first under those circumstances. I would value my life over his if I were in that situation.GannonFan wrote:
Why though? In the Tulsa incident two cops reacted to the guy quickly reaching into his car - one cop pulled a taser and fired and the other one fired a gun. Why the different response and wouldn't have using a taser worked? I'm all for cops protecting themselves when threatened, and if an uncommunicative person, after ignoring commands, reaches into a car I think there is risk there - but why does that need to be met with deadly force - why can't the taser work in that situation?
On top of that, the other issue with the Tulsa thing is they let that guy lay on the ground and bleed out for several minutes before approaching him. Apparently there is no training for administering first aid for someone. How is that okay? Guy's dying on the ground in front of them and, regardless of any crime he may or may not have committed, the cop should never just let the person die without trying to help.
I guess I jumped to the conclusion that you were also... Since you didn't say otherwise.
Those who haven't seen the movie don't get it and think he simply wants more gym classes.
