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93henfan wrote:And no, Klean, it hasn't always been like this. Thirty years ago, packs of black kids weren't going around playing knockout games with white kids and homeless people. There wasn't the general thugishness that you see so often now. Maybe it's because more black kids had parents raising them right back then. I think the black family situation and so many absentee fathers in the black community really sets them up for failure.
Where did this come from? When you paid black women money to kick their husbands out on the street. I can thank LBJ for that one. But it's not all on single mothers. Has race relations really changed? No, its gone underground. I look at what black males get as far as sentencing compared to white men, and its a freaking joke.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:And no, Klean, it hasn't always been like this. Thirty years ago, packs of black kids weren't going around playing knockout games with white kids and homeless people. There wasn't the general thugishness that you see so often now. Maybe it's because more black kids had parents raising them right back then. I think the black family situation and so many absentee fathers in the black community really sets them up for failure.
Where did this come from? When you paid black women money to kick their husbands out on the street. I can thank LBJ for that one. But it's not all on single mothers. Has race relations really changed? No, its gone underground. I look at what black males get as far as sentencing compared to white men, and its a freaking joke.
So you're just not going to admit that the black community has any culpability in this.

Roger that.
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93henfan wrote:
mrklean wrote:
Where did this come from? When you paid black women money to kick their husbands out on the street. I can thank LBJ for that one. But it's not all on single mothers. Has race relations really changed? No, its gone underground. I look at what black males get as far as sentencing compared to white men, and its a freaking joke.
So you're just not going to admit that the black community has any culpability in this.

Roger that.
Are you going to tell me that white policeman have NO responsibility for this either?
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mrklean wrote:I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.
I just saw the video. The guy in the red shirt never fired a shot. What are you looking at?
Here is what I saw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/ch ... .html?_r=0
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
So you're just not going to admit that the black community has any culpability in this.

Roger that.
Are you going to tell me that white policeman have NO responsibility for this either?
There you go again. It's always somebody else's fault.
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mrklean wrote:I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.
I just saw the video. The guy in the red shirt never fired a shot. What are you looking at?
Here is what I saw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/ch ... .html?_r=0
I already covered that. Read the thread. I'm ripping the tits off this thread as normal. I rip the tits off so many of them that people take me for granted. For granite also.
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93henfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I just saw the video. The guy in the red shirt never fired a shot. What are you looking at?
Here is what I saw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/ch ... .html?_r=0
I already covered that. Read the thread.
I can't keep up. The game is too fast. :oops: :oops:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mrklean wrote:I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.
I just saw the video. The guy in the red shirt never fired a shot. What are you looking at?
Here is what I saw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/ch ... .html?_r=0
My bad, you are right the red shirt guy did not shoot, he was moving as someone shot him. However, were is the gun that the police said he had? I saw both of his hands and I did not see a gun.
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93henfan wrote:
mrklean wrote:
Are you going to tell me that white policeman have NO responsibility for this either?
There you go again. It's always somebody else's fault.
NO I want you to admit there is a double standard.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I already covered that. Read the thread.
I can't keep up. The game is too fast. :oops: :oops:

It's all good. You can clearly see the guy in the red shirt never firing. What you can't see is the negro cop shooting. You do see the negro cop come in at the very end of the bodycam portion of the video. Whatever he was doing out there in the trees, the honky cops had already cuffed Scott and were discussing medical aid by the time the negro cop popped in to say hi.
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93henfan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I can't keep up. The game is too fast. :oops: :oops:

It's all good. You can clearly see the guy in the red shirt never firing. What you can't see is the negro cop shooting. You do see the negro cop come in at the very end of the bodycam portion of the video. Whatever he was doing out there in the trees, the honky cops had already cuffed Scott and were discussing medical aid by the time the negro cop popped in to say hi.
Where is the gun?
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mrklean wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I just saw the video. The guy in the red shirt never fired a shot. What are you looking at?
Here is what I saw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/ch ... .html?_r=0
My bad, you are right the red shirt guy did not shoot, he was moving as someone shot him. However, were is the gun that the police said he had? I saw both of his hands and I did not see a gun.
It's inconclusive. The website with that video said it was not in his right hand, and he was right-handed. But they said something was in his left hand but can't be identified on the video.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:
There you go again. It's always somebody else's fault.
NO I want you to admit there is a double standard.
There are root causes for why black people commit violent crime at a rate five times higher per capita than any other group in the US. White cops are not one of those root causes.

You immediately deflected from the black community accepting ANY responsibility for their plight. Instead you blamed LBJ. Wasn't he the guy who passed all the civil rights legislation that MLK wanted passed? :lol:
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Wouldn't the past eight years have been a great time for this country to have a strong, black President who could have made his hallmark achievement a bridging of the wounds from this country's past?

Instead we just got more of the same shit. In fact, he made it worse.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
mrklean wrote:
My bad, you are right the red shirt guy did not shoot, he was moving as someone shot him. However, were is the gun that the police said he had? I saw both of his hands and I did not see a gun.
It's inconclusive. The website with that video said it was not in his right hand, and he was right-handed. But they said something was in his left hand but can't be identified on the video.
Either way this does not look good for the local police department. Sad so sad.
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mrklean wrote:I just saw the video on CNN. I did not see a freaking gun. He was backing up when they shot him and the guy in the red shirt shot him not the black cop.
I didn't see any definitive proof nor did I see the guy in the red shirt shoot.


I did notice a holster strapped to his ankle while he was standing.


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93henfan wrote:Wouldn't the past eight years have been a great time for this country to have a strong, black President who could have made his hallmark achievement a bridging of the wounds from this country's past?

Instead we just got more of the same ****. In fact, he made it worse.
How did he make it worse. Please tell me this.
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mrklean wrote:
93henfan wrote:Wouldn't the past eight years have been a great time for this country to have a strong, black President who could have made his hallmark achievement a bridging of the wounds from this country's past?

Instead we just got more of the same ****. In fact, he made it worse.
How did he make it worse. Please tell me this.
You're kidding, right?
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Fact: police officers shoot more white people than black people, and at a higher percentage rate as a function of all violent police encounters. Along with this fact, consider that blacks are, relative to their representation in the US, the largest consumers of police services in the entire country. In other words, if you are a black male you are several times more likely to encounter the police because another person called them, and yet you still are less likely to be killed than a white man in the same encounter.

Fact: recent studies have suggested that not only can racial bias not be established in most police shootings, but that if there IS a bias, it causes police to be more likely to shoot white, unarmed suspects than black ones.

The idea that blacks are being targeted by police in this country (whether because of their race or not) is pure fantasy. Politicians and the media are adding fuel to this fire for purely selfish reasons.


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CID1990 wrote:Fact: police officers shoot more white people than black people, and at a higher percentage rate as a function of all violent police encounters. Along with this fact, consider that blacks are, relative to their representation in the US, the largest consumers of police services in the entire country. In other words, if you are a black male you are several times more likely to encounter the police because another person called them, and yet you still are less likely to be killed than a white man in the same encounter.

Fact: recent studies have suggested that not only can racial bias not be established in most police shootings, but that if there IS a bias, it causes police to be more likely to shoot white, unarmed suspects than black ones.

The idea that blacks are being targeted by police in this country (whether because of their race or not) is pure fantasy. Politicians and the media are adding fuel to this fire for purely selfish reasons.


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I know you have been answering a lot of different questions from a lot of people, so I will post this question again.
I show the police a level of respect and agreement that I don't to anyone else. Is doing this frowned upon by African-Americans?
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CID1990 wrote:Fact: police officers shoot more white people than black people, and at a higher percentage rate as a function of all violent police encounters. Along with this fact, consider that blacks are, relative to their representation in the US, the largest consumers of police services in the entire country. In other words, if you are a black male you are several times more likely to encounter the police because another person called them, and yet you still are less likely to be killed than a white man in the same encounter.

Fact: recent studies have suggested that not only can racial bias not be established in most police shootings, but that if there IS a bias, it causes police to be more likely to shoot white, unarmed suspects than black ones.

The idea that blacks are being targeted by police in this country (whether because of their race or not) is pure fantasy. Politicians and the media are adding fuel to this fire for purely selfish reasons.


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The evil media is lying to the black folks
NY Times Claims Keith Scott Was “Unarmed Black Man”

First the AP claims that the Officer who killed was white, now this?

One might almost think they were trying to distort the facts.

The Chief of Police has already said that Keith Scott was armed. A gun was found on the scene. In a video released by Scott’s wife, officers can be heard telling Scott to ‘Drop the gun!”. Scott’s wife can be heard telling her husband, “Don’t do it!”. The video shows the gun at Scott’s feet after the shooting. A still picture released by media also shows the gun at Scott’s feet.
But NY Times calls him ‘unarmed’.

They have since pulled the original tweet and ‘corrected’ it to ‘unclear if he was armed’.

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SeattleGriz wrote:I know you have been answering a lot of different questions from a lot of people, so I will post this question again.
I show the police a level of respect and agreement that I don't to anyone else. Is doing this frowned upon by African-Americans?
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Ibanez wrote:
mrklean wrote:

THIS IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HOW HITLER CAME TO POWER. PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO GIVE SOME OF THERE RIGHTS FOR A SO-CALLED PERCEIVED SAFETY OF THE NATION.
No. Hitler gave a voice to those that were disillusioned. He gave the people, angry with society, an escape goat. He gave them hope.

Remove your racial bias. Your prejudices do you a real disservice.


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