Colin Kaepernick

[houndawg]

How many cops have been killed lately in response to black men being killed? Aside from Dallas, I can't think of one.

Again..this is the internet and it's CS.com. Trash talking is expected.

Most of these "black men" are people who are usually known to the police as repeat offenders,not innocent victims.

This is a movement "against" the American police force ... period.

Black stuff matters is a movement with a political agenda, puppets of nameless, faceless promoters.

Whenever you have large groups of people that show up for these events with no job that they are worried about losing, no worries about starving, no families to worry about supporting, you know it is a paid "farce", a politically and racially motivated agenda.

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The other ones looked just like him, right?

[Bisonfanatical]

I know there are many different "peoples" (lol) with different motivations and wants and needs, first you need to know that there is a difference between a "want" and a "need".
It takes intelligence to know the difference, and it takes maturity, self control, and discipline to achieve them.

Supporting the systematic disruption of the police force over "hyped up" situations is not good for this country. Hate and racial unrest by (paid?) Minority activists will lead to enormous future social and economic problems in this country that you/we will come to regret.



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Houndawg said:

You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

Bisonfanatical said:

I see you like to cherry pick a sentence or two and ignore the theme.
I never said there were not bad situations, but "afterwards" they are hyped up by the media and racially motivated activists.
Think of Rodney king, a repeat offender who resists arrest and ends up getting beat, not good. We have a court system, right or wrong, afterwards hateful people took to the streets with mob mentality and literally pulled innocent people from their cars and beat them, and burned many businesses etc....
I'm sure you have no problem with what is going on right now across the country, and that is sad.

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[houndawg]

I know there are many different "peoples" (lol) with different motivations and wants and needs, first you need to know that there is a difference between a "want" and a "need".
It takes intelligence to know the difference, and it takes maturity, self control, and discipline to achieve them.

Supporting the systematic disruption of the police force over "hyped up" situations is not good for this country. Hate and racial unrest by (paid?) Minority activists will lead to enormous future social and economic problems in this country that you/we will come to regret.



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Houndawg said:

You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

Bisonfanatical said:

I see you like to cherry pick a sentence or two and ignore the theme.
I never said there were not bad situations, but "afterwards" they are hyped up by the media and racially motivated activists.
Think of Rodney king, a repeat offender who resists arrest and ends up getting beat, not good. We have a court system, right or wrong, afterwards hateful people took to the streets with mob mentality and literally pulled innocent people from their cars and beat them, and burned many businesses etc....
I'm sure you have no problem with what is going on right now across the country, and that is sad.

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The King incident deserved to be hyped, the cops brought that one on themselves.

[Bisonfanatical]

I know there are many different "peoples" (lol) with different motivations and wants and needs, first you need to know that there is a difference between a "want" and a "need".
It takes intelligence to know the difference, and it takes maturity, self control, and discipline to achieve them.

Supporting the systematic disruption of the police force over "hyped up" situations is not good for this country. Hate and racial unrest by (paid?) Minority activists will lead to enormous future social and economic problems in this country that you/we will come to regret.



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Houndawg said:

You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

Bisonfanatical said:

I see you like to cherry pick a sentence or two and ignore the theme.
I never said there were not bad situations, but "afterwards" they are hyped up by the media and racially motivated activists.
Think of Rodney king, a repeat offender who resists arrest and ends up getting beat, not good. We have a court system, right or wrong, afterwards hateful people took to the streets with mob mentality and literally pulled innocent people from their cars and beat them, and burned many businesses etc....
I'm sure you have no problem with what is going on right now across the country, and that is sad.

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The King incident deserved to be hyped, the cops brought that one on themselves.

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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[CID1990]

In my younger days in the Navy I believe that being on both coasts, as well as 2 aircraft carriers I viewed the "big world" in all of its real poverty and tremendous problems, not like the happy places the "tourists" see.
Growing up with a single mother moving from town to town ahead of the bill collectors, in the day when women didn't get a minimum wage, was no different from any other ethnicities life of poverty. Abject poverty is an equal opportunity Destroyer.
My life in those days was on the fringe of society, now it is the norm. Smh

I have many friends from many racial groups.
They were mostly men of hardships who happened to be minorities, now there is a growing trend of minorities of hard ships struggle to be men.

I know there are many different "peoples" (lol) with different motivations and wants and needs, first you need to know that there is a difference between a "want" and a "need".
It takes intelligence to know the difference, and it takes maturity, self control, and discipline to achieve them.

Supporting the systematic disruption of the police force over "hyped up" situations is not good for this country. Hate and racial unrest by (paid?) Minority activists will lead to enormous future social and economic problems in this country that you/we will come to regret.



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You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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[kalm]

You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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Yep. They water down their arguments and turn rational people who don't have real skin in the game away from the legitimate side of their issue.

[houndawg]

The King incident deserved to be hyped, the cops brought that one on themselves.

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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Maybe true, definitely irrelevant.

And this shit happens around communities with guns all the time..

[Bisonfanatical]

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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Maybe true, definitely irrelevant.

And this **** happens around communities with guns all the time..

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[YoUDeeMan]

yeah because without him nobody would be telling us that we are in the middle of a copacalypse of killing black dudes

[dal4018]

The King incident deserved to be hyped, the cops brought that one on themselves.

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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Who are you to say Rodney King was a man of little social value those cops showed what their true social value to the world.If King was of little social value then explain Dylan Roof's action in South Carolina???

[Bisonfanatical]

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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Who are you to say Rodney King was a man of little social value those cops showed what their true social value to the world.If King was of little social value then explain Dylan Roof's action in South Carolina???

I am a man of independent thought, who has a right to "my" opinions, and I will not explain myself to people with an obvious agenda (rightie or leftie). .. thank you.
.
.
APPLES - King was a.man in and out of trouble all the time, according to reports. He was not responsible for the hateful terroristic agenda of the racially motivated (evil) people behind that nonsense that followed the trial. Those mob actions were racially motivated against innocent people caught in the middle ... evil intentions by trouble makers.
.
.ORANGES - Dylan Roof is a mentally disturbed evil murderer. He brings race into it as a motive, so he is a self proclaimed racist. Whether or not he is a racist is secondary in this situation, he is an evil murderer. His crime is no worse regardless of the color of the victims ... senseless murder ... doesn't matter what is added to the charges like racist or terrorist ... murder is murder... evil man.
.
.APPLES AND ORANGES with some connecting points.
Was this your question?





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[Ibanez]

King was a man of little social value other than to racial hate mongerers/baiters.
That was mob mentality .. I really can't understand thoughts like yours/theirs .. but that isn't my concern, it's your business.
You notice this type of nutty thing doesn't happen much in communities with guns?
People should/will go to the streets eventually and protect what is theirs, families, homes, etc

Will be a sad day.


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Who are you to say Rodney King was a man of little social value those cops showed what their true social value to the world.If King was of little social value then explain Dylan Roof's action in South Carolina???

What does Roof have to do anything? And your question assumes that people, on the whole, support him. Your racism doesn't do you any favors dal.


Oh, and here are a few periods: . . . . . . .

[CAA Flagship]

CORAOPOLIS (KDKA/AP) – A high school where cheerleaders staged a national anthem protest during a visit by war veterans will play its homecoming football game with only players’ parents in attendance.

Officials with Cornell School District made the decision to move Friday’s homecoming game to the afternoon and cancel this weekend’s festivities.

The district has been receiving multiple death threats from around the country. The threats are coming in via email, social media and by phone, and officials say they’re not taking any chances.

The district has been receiving threats ever since 12 out of 15 high school cheerleaders took a knee in peaceful protest during the national anthem on Sept. 30.

Members of the VFW Post 402 in Coraopolis were invited to serve as color guard at the game and the kneeling didn’t sit well with them or others.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/10/ ... m-protest/

[mrklean]

You mean situations like being caught on camera shooting a 53 year old man in the back and then dropping your taser, the one he "went for", by him?

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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BLM has never said that ALL Police are bad. I have never ever heard them say this. What they are attempting to address is the questionable shooting of black men by the police. 90% of Police are good people who are just trying to do a good job;however, there is a 10% of current officers that have no business being in Law Enforcement. I believe it is a training issue. You can't train a Policemen like a Soldier. There are two different jobs (unless you are a MP). We need to bring back community policing. When the Law Enforcement officer feels part of the community, you will see less of these types of shootings.

[dal4018]

Who are you to say Rodney King was a man of little social value those cops showed what their true social value to the world.If King was of little social value then explain Dylan Roof's action in South Carolina???

What does Roof have to do anything? And your question assumes that people, on the whole, support him. Your racism doesn't do you any favors dal.


Oh, and here are a few periods: . . . . . . .

You ppl are the REAL RACIST on this website but you refuse to acknowledge this.King was a human being that was viciously attacked by a bunch of thugs dressed up in police uniforms for the WHOLE WORLD to see in case you forgot!!!!!!

[dal4018]

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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BLM has never said that ALL Police are bad. I have never ever heard them say this. What they are attempting to address is the questionable shooting of black men by the police. 90% of Police are good people who are just trying to do a good job;however, there is a 10% of current officers that have no business being in Law Enforcement. I believe it is a training issue. You can't train a Policemen like a Soldier. There are two different jobs (unless you are a MP). We need to bring back community policing. When the Law Enforcement officer feels part of the community, you will see less of these types of shootings.

Once again Klean you bring common sense into this website thanks.By the way I created a thread called HIDDEN FIGURES its about black women that worked on space programs at NASA in the 60s.

[dal4018]

Who are you to say Rodney King was a man of little social value those cops showed what their true social value to the world.If King was of little social value then explain Dylan Roof's action in South Carolina???

I am a man of independent thought, who has a right to "my" opinions, and I will not explain myself to people with an obvious agenda (rightie or leftie). .. thank you.
.
.
APPLES - King was a.man in and out of trouble all the time, according to reports. He was not responsible for the hateful terroristic agenda of the racially motivated (evil) people behind that nonsense that followed the trial. Those mob actions were racially motivated against innocent people caught in the middle ... evil intentions by trouble makers.
.
.ORANGES - Dylan Roof is a mentally disturbed evil murderer. He brings race into it as a motive, so he is a self proclaimed racist. Whether or not he is a racist is secondary in this situation, he is an evil murderer. His crime is no worse regardless of the color of the victims ... senseless murder ... doesn't matter what is added to the charges like racist or terrorist ... murder is murder... evil man.
.
.APPLES AND ORANGES with some connecting points.
Was this your question?





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Roof for his punishment was taken to lunch by cops to BURGER KING simply because he was famished!!!!! How many black criminals were taken to lunch after committing a mass murder in a public setting????

[Ibanez]

What does Roof have to do anything? And your question assumes that people, on the whole, support him. Your racism doesn't do you any favors dal.


Oh, and here are a few periods: . . . . . . .

You ppl are the REAL RACIST on this website but you refuse to acknowledge this.King was a human being that was viciously attacked by a bunch of thugs dressed up in police uniforms for the WHOLE WORLD to see in case you forgot!!!!!!

How can I be racist when I judge people on the content of their character and not the color of the skin?

Why do you ignore the facts: Rodney King admitted to be drunk, he is on video leading the police on a high speed chase. Does that mean he deserved to be beaten? No, but that doesn't mean the cops aren't already amped up and ready for whatever this person, a person with a criminal history, may throw their way. You seem to ignore the facts when they relate to black criminals get what's coming to them. I'd have no problem with white cops beating the shit out of someone that just risked their lives and lives of others. You really need to do some independent reading (though, I doubt you will) and stop parroting whatever CNN, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton tell you. There are two sides to the story and you are conveniently ignoring it.

As for Roof, you are completely retarded. Nobody on here has praised him or let him off the hook. The man is a murderer, plain and simple. He killed people because they were black.

[Bisonfanatical]

I am a man of independent thought, who has a right to "my" opinions, and I will not explain myself to people with an obvious agenda (rightie or leftie). .. thank you.
.
.
APPLES - King was a.man in and out of trouble all the time, according to reports. He was not responsible for the hateful terroristic agenda of the racially motivated (evil) people behind that nonsense that followed the trial. Those mob actions were racially motivated against innocent people caught in the middle ... evil intentions by trouble makers.
.
.ORANGES - Dylan Roof is a mentally disturbed evil murderer. He brings race into it as a motive, so he is a self proclaimed racist. Whether or not he is a racist is secondary in this situation, he is an evil murderer. His crime is no worse regardless of the color of the victims ... senseless murder ... doesn't matter what is added to the charges like racist or terrorist ... murder is murder... evil man.
.
.APPLES AND ORANGES with some connecting points.
Was this your question?





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Roof for his punishment was taken to lunch by cops to BURGER KING simply because he was famished!!!!! How many black criminals were taken to lunch after committing a mass murder in a public setting????

I would rather have the "death sentence" than eat at burger King.
Who cares where they took him during interrogation, he is in jail for life now, let your nonsense go.
Has nothing to do with my points.
If you mean "civilian cops" in some way, shape, or form, like Obama was mentioning 7 years ago, lots of luck getting "law abiding citizens" to submit to that.
We have a police force that is controlled by a police commissioner who is appointed by a mayor which makes the whole thing political.
We have a sheriff department that is the most powerful organization in the country who is elected by "we the people". That will be the only alternative you will see.



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[CID1990]

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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BLM has never said that ALL Police are bad. I have never ever heard them say this. What they are attempting to address is the questionable shooting of black men by the police. 90% of Police are good people who are just trying to do a good job;however, there is a 10% of current officers that have no business being in Law Enforcement. I believe it is a training issue. You can't train a Policemen like a Soldier. There are two different jobs (unless you are a MP). We need to bring back community policing. When the Law Enforcement officer feels part of the community, you will see less of these types of shootings.

I'm sorry you used all that marginally acceptable punctuation and grammar on a post that demonstrates your poor reading comprehension.


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[GannonFan]

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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BLM has never said that ALL Police are bad. I have never ever heard them say this. What they are attempting to address is the questionable shooting of black men by the police. 90% of Police are good people who are just trying to do a good job;however, there is a 10% of current officers that have no business being in Law Enforcement. I believe it is a training issue. You can't train a Policemen like a Soldier. There are two different jobs (unless you are a MP). We need to bring back community policing. When the Law Enforcement officer feels part of the community, you will see less of these types of shootings.

I don't disagree with the training angle, I think you're right in that regard. I do disagree with the community angle, though. Plenty of places have it that the cops need to be residents of the area (city, county, municipality, etc) of where they work. Not everywhere does it that way but plenty of police forces do. And that hasn't solved the issue. In some of these places, it is dangerous to work in some of these spots, just as it's dangerous for people who live in those spots to report things to the police for fear of retribution for snitching. I think the militarization of the police in some places was more of a result of some areas becoming just simply too hard to police, and of course that militarization has spilled out from those areas to places where it doesn't belong. But I think the biggest root cause of this is the violence that starts the downward cycle of police tending to over-police things. There are still bad apples, sure, but a cop can't screw something up if they're not needed to be there in the first place. Can't solve one side of the argument without also solving the other.

[Ibanez]

I am a man of independent thought, who has a right to "my" opinions, and I will not explain myself to people with an obvious agenda (rightie or leftie). .. thank you.
.
.
APPLES - King was a.man in and out of trouble all the time, according to reports. He was not responsible for the hateful terroristic agenda of the racially motivated (evil) people behind that nonsense that followed the trial. Those mob actions were racially motivated against innocent people caught in the middle ... evil intentions by trouble makers.
.
.ORANGES - Dylan Roof is a mentally disturbed evil murderer. He brings race into it as a motive, so he is a self proclaimed racist. Whether or not he is a racist is secondary in this situation, he is an evil murderer. His crime is no worse regardless of the color of the victims ... senseless murder ... doesn't matter what is added to the charges like racist or terrorist ... murder is murder... evil man.
.
.APPLES AND ORANGES with some connecting points.
Was this your question?





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Roof for his punishment was taken to lunch by cops to BURGER KING simply because he was famished!!!!! How many black criminals were taken to lunch after committing a mass murder in a public setting????

You may have a legit gripe but looking at the facts and statistics, cops are more likely to face a combative black man than white man. Cops have killed more whites than blacks (though when looking at the state in proportion to the population, blacks are 2.5 times more likely to be shot.) Last year, 381 black men were killed by police. 13% (or 49 of them) were unarmed.

[Pwns]

More training? You mean like racist police tests that have been scrutinized as killing police force diversity? Or maybe just more diversity training is needed and that will fix it?

[Ibanez]

^^^This right here is why this issue is eventually going to go away and BLM is going to go the way of the Tea Party

Too many people conflate all police shootings of black people as unjustified and racial in nature and that it counterproductive.

If BLM and the chattering classes would focus on those incidents that are almost certainly unjustified (North Charleston, Tulsa) and stop trying to group justified shootings in with them (Ferguson) then more people might be willing to listen.

BLM and their allies tend to forget demographics and that if you vilify all police by implying that the entire system is corrupt you aren't going to get anywhere in the long run


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BLM has never said that ALL Police are bad. I have never ever heard them say this. What they are attempting to address is the questionable shooting of black men by the police. 90% of Police are good people who are just trying to do a good job;however, there is a 10% of current officers that have no business being in Law Enforcement. I believe it is a training issue. You can't train a Policemen like a Soldier. There are two different jobs (unless you are a MP). We need to bring back community policing. When the Law Enforcement officer feels part of the community, you will see less of these types of shootings.

That simply isn't true. Training is a huge part of this, but even the best trained police officer isn't a match for a young man (white or black) that doesn't respect authority, has been raised in an environment where crime and poverty are seen everywhere and where crime (like dealing drugs) is seen as an alternative to going to school. The best trained officer on his best day, is capable of making a bad decision or a deadly decision when he/she is faced with a person that isn't complying with commands or acting irrationally.

According to the Washington Post (who just endorsed Clinton)

[dal4018]

You ppl are the REAL RACIST on this website but you refuse to acknowledge this.King was a human being that was viciously attacked by a bunch of thugs dressed up in police uniforms for the WHOLE WORLD to see in case you forgot!!!!!!

How can I be racist when I judge people on the content of their character and not the color of the skin?

Why do you ignore the facts: Rodney King admitted to be drunk, he is on video leading the police on a high speed chase. Does that mean he deserved to be beaten? No, but that doesn't mean the cops aren't already amped up and ready for whatever this person, a person with a criminal history, may throw their way. You seem to ignore the facts when they relate to black criminals get what's coming to them. I'd have no problem with white cops beating the **** out of someone that just risked their lives and lives of others. You really need to do some independent reading (though, I doubt you will) and stop parroting whatever CNN, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton tell you. There are two sides to the story and you are conveniently ignoring it.

As for Roof, you are completely retarded. Nobody on here has praised him or let him off the hook. The man is a murderer, plain and simple. He killed people because they were black.

Get off MLK jock please.King never admitted to being intoxicated that evening the doctor who examined found NOTHING in his system.Stop lying for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!