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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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kalm wrote:
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Facebook, Starbucks, Google, Disney.... yeah. Apolitical.
OK...so I could have used a better word. :mrgreen:

How about non-partisan...

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kalm wrote:
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Facebook, Starbucks, Google, Disney.... yeah. Apolitical.
OK...so I could have used a better word. :mrgreen:

How about non-partisan...

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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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It's interesting that the only dirt that the Clinton Campaign has been able to get on Trump that is worth a shit (sort of) is the personal stuff. I am shocked that they can't find any dirt on the business that has any value.
They briefly tried the 'not paying contractors' thing and they let him off the hook when he said that they did not perform quality work.
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Violating trade embargo with Cuba?

Fraud trial starting November 28?

Taj Mahal closing a few days ago?
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kalm wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Facebook, Starbucks, Google, Disney.... yeah. Apolitical.
OK...so I could have used a better word. :mrgreen:

How about non-partisan...

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Violating trade embargo with Cuba?

Fraud trial starting November 28?

Taj Mahal closing a few days ago?
I thought he lost control of the Taj Mahal as part of the bankruptcy and it only continues to use his name?
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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HI54UNI wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Violating trade embargo with Cuba?

Fraud trial starting November 28?

Taj Mahal closing a few days ago?
I thought he lost control of the Taj Mahal as part of the bankruptcy and it only continues to use his name?
Don't let facts get in the way of a good lie.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
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I thought he lost control of the Taj Mahal as part of the bankruptcy and it only continues to use his name?
Don't let facts get in the way of a good lie.
Well, that's one of the three he listed...
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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CAA Flagship wrote:It's interesting that the only dirt that the Clinton Campaign has been able to get on Trump that is worth a **** (sort of) is the personal stuff. I am shocked that they can't find any dirt on the business that has any value.
They briefly tried the 'not paying contractors' thing and they let him off the hook when he said that they did not perform quality work.
No they didn't. There was push back on that. Clinton had the architect she was talking about at the debate in the audience when Trump said maybe he didn't perform quality work. Later that architect was on TV with a letter from Trump back in the day talking about what great work he did.

There's plenty of stuff on his business background. The fact that there are a whole lot of contractors alleging that he reneged on paying them is still out there. Trump has not effectively rebutted it at all. It's just that his cult members refuse to believe anything negative about him regardless of how well documented it is and for others it's been drowned out by the other stuff.

No way to ever know but I still think that if Donald Trump has been born a regular Joe there's no way he'd have ever been a big business success. That's true of a lot of big business successes of course. It helps to be from a rich family to begin with.

But Trump is not like (groan) George Soros. I do not agree with Soros at all politically, but he nevertheless has a life story of achievement WAY more impressive than Trump's: http://www.biography.com/people/george-soros-20926527

Trump is a "sliver spoon" guy. I think if he's have been born in a middle class family there's no way he'd have ever risen to prominence based on his own ability.
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Re: Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

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So BTW, all other things aside, do you believe Trump when he says he NEVER kissed women without permission, groped them, etc.

Let's review:

He's on audio saying that he just kisses women and can do anything because he's a celebrity. You know, he said he can grab their genitals. That sort of thing.

And he's also on audio saying that because he runs the pageant he can walk in on young women in various stages of undress.

So....now we have women saying he kissed and groped them without permission. And we have women who were in his pageants say that he walked in on them when they weren't dressed.

So we have women saying he did what he himself said he did. And now he says THEY'RE LYING.

Meanwhile his current Politifact tally on making True and Mostly True statements is 15% while his Mostly False, False, and Pants on Fire tally is 71%.

So, do you Trump cultists actually BELIEVE this guy?
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JSO how much is hilldog and Co paying you? Is it by the post? Word count? I'm curious, seems like a pretty cush gig.
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SDHornet wrote:JSO how much is hilldog and Co paying you? Is it by the post? Word count? I'm curious, seems like a pretty cush gig.
It's seems like hard work to me brother...
I do less and make a decent living

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SDHornet wrote:JSO how much is hilldog and Co paying you? Is it by the post? Word count? I'm curious, seems like a pretty cush gig.
Answer the question. I'll broaden it: Do you actually believe anything Trump says?
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I believe him when he says his daughter has a nice figure.
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GAwd almighty this election is fucked
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Chizzang wrote:
SDHornet wrote:JSO how much is hilldog and Co paying you? Is it by the post? Word count? I'm curious, seems like a pretty cush gig.
It's seems like hard work to me brother...
I do less and make a decent living

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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote:JSO how much is hilldog and Co paying you? Is it by the post? Word count? I'm curious, seems like a pretty cush gig.
Answer the question. I'll broaden it: Do you actually believe anything Trump says?
I believe he that he believes what he says.
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Ibanez wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Answer the question. I'll broaden it: Do you actually believe anything Trump says?
I believe he that he believes what he says.
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Anyone else catch this interview this morning? :shock:

The level of Ben Carson's stupidity is still quite breathtaking.... :rofl:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/can-you- ... o-nuclear/
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kalm wrote:Anyone else catch this interview this morning? :shock:

The level of Ben Carson's stupidity is still quite breathtaking.... :rofl:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/can-you- ... o-nuclear/
I just watched the video. There were some questionable things said but I didn't think it was worth the level of criticism you are bringing forth. It's probably best to discuss the specific points that you disagree with because I can't throw everything that was said into one basket (of deplorables).
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kalm wrote:Anyone else catch this interview this morning? :shock:

The level of Ben Carson's stupidity is still quite breathtaking.... :rofl:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/can-you- ... o-nuclear/
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:Anyone else catch this interview this morning? :shock:

The level of Ben Carson's stupidity is still quite breathtaking.... :rofl:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/can-you- ... o-nuclear/
I just watched the video. There were some questionable things said but I didn't think it was worth the level of criticism you are bringing forth. It's probably best to discuss the specific points that you disagree with because I can't throw everything that was said into one basket (of deplorables).
Maybe mediate didn't show the entire clip but i think Scarborough was enjoying it as well.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:Anyone else catch this interview this morning? :shock:

The level of Ben Carson's stupidity is still quite breathtaking.... :rofl:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/can-you- ... o-nuclear/
I just watched the video. There were some questionable things said but I didn't think it was worth the level of criticism you are bringing forth. It's probably best to discuss the specific points that you disagree with because I can't throw everything that was said into one basket (of deplorables).
Like most extremely intelligent people, Carson is a little 'different'. Strange religious views, etc. It doesn't make him stupid (kalm's favorite adjective to describe Carson). I've noticed for a while now that kalm saves his sharpest criticisms for the black and brown folk who aren't of the liberal/progressive persuasion. :?
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If Carson was a donk, colleges trying to increase minority graduation rates in science would be lining up to have him as a speaker.
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y'all seem to be whipping out the race card a lot
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