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Career Passer Rating
Manning 96.5
Romo 97.1

Career Completion Percentage
Manning 65.3
Romo 65.3

Career Touchdown to interception ratio
Manning 2.14
Romo 2.11

Career winning percentage
Manning .684
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First of all, Peyton Manning's going to go down as one of the greatest QB's in the NFL of all time, despite his post season record. Tony Romo isn't even in the top 3 of Dallas QB's of all time. You're really insulting Manning by comparing him to Romo.

And second, compared to Tony Romo, especially now, Peyton Manning had the durability of a tank (and since we know Manning was anything but durable, that gives you some idea how fragile Romo is). If this was boxing, I doubt that Romo could even get a sanctioned fight anymore for fear that he couldn't protect himself. The guy is toast.
So you would argue that Romo has ZERO trade value to any other team in the NFL
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His career is over

Is that what you're saying - because it sounds like that's what you're saying

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For a second round pick, which was the original premise, yes, he has zero trade value for a second round pick.
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bandl wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
So you would argue that Romo has ZERO trade value to any other team in the NFL
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His career is over

Is that what you're saying - because it sounds like that's what you're saying

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Chicago, Jacksonville, NY Jets...just a few teams that I think would trade for Romo in a heartbeat

Whether they SHOULD is a totally different question
This. Can't underestimate the desperation of a bottom dwelling NFL front office.
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bandl wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
So you would argue that Romo has ZERO trade value to any other team in the NFL
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His career is over

Is that what you're saying - because it sounds like that's what you're saying

:geek:
Chicago, Jacksonville, NY Jets...just a few teams that I think would trade for Romo in a heartbeat

Whether they SHOULD is a totally different question
The only team there who would would be the Jags - at least they're still in it, thanks to the AFC South being wretched again. Both the Bears and the Jets (after they lose tonight) are basically out of the playoff picture with 5 losses already. Romo is 36 right now and coming off his 100th injury, many of which are chronic, and he's only played 4 games in the past two years. if he gets breathed on again he'll be out again. Those teams you mention can't protect the QB, so why would they bring in a QB who will get hurt on the first sack. And give up a second round pick to boot?
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GannonFan wrote:
bandl wrote:
Chicago, Jacksonville, NY Jets...just a few teams that I think would trade for Romo in a heartbeat

Whether they SHOULD is a totally different question
The only team there who would would be the Jags - at least they're still in it, thanks to the AFC South being wretched again. Both the Bears and the Jets (after they lose tonight) are basically out of the playoff picture with 5 losses already. Romo is 36 right now and coming off his 100th injury, many of which are chronic, and he's only played 4 games in the past two years. if he gets breathed on again he'll be out again. Those teams you mention can't protect the QB, so why would they bring in a QB who will get hurt on the first sack. And give up a second round pick to boot?
I was just throwing out three teams that immediately came to mind when I thought "suck" and/or "desperate. Maybe they weren't the best examples. Insert a number of other bottom dwelling teams if you like. But do you really think those teams KNOW they can't protect their QB? Those same teams that kept Cutler and Fitzpatrick for whatthefuckever reason....we all know those QBs aren't the solution to anything, but those teams weren't on the same page. So yeah, I do think there are some teams out there who would sign Romo thinking he is the solution to their problems.

Again, whether any team SHOULD is a totally different question, and we're probably all in agreement that no team SHOULD. But Romo has a wonderfully lubricated vagina apparently, so if he is available I think he'll get signed somewhere without a doubt (if it comes to that point...Jones will do his best to fuck this situation up as much as possible, which will be fun to watch).
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bandl wrote:
Vidav wrote:

:roll:
In no particular order
Staubach
White
Aikman

Which one do you place him above?
Staubach
Aikman
Romo

That is the order.
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Chizzang wrote:Career Passer Rating
Manning 96.5
Romo 97.1

Career Completion Percentage
Manning 65.3
Romo 65.3

Career Touchdown to interception ratio
Manning 2.14
Romo 2.11

Career winning percentage
Manning .684
Romo .602
Romo is terrible. Stop trying to deny it with your facts. :coffee:
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bandl wrote:

Again, whether any team SHOULD is a totally different question, and we're probably all in agreement that no team SHOULD. But Romo has a wonderfully lubricated vagina apparently, so if he is available I think he'll get signed somewhere without a doubt (if it comes to that point...Jones will do his best to fuck this situation up as much as possible, which will be fun to watch).
Exactly... ^
Whoever said "Should" wasn't reading my thread header post

What I'm talking about is:
The day - the Minute - Tony Romo comes off IR will be his highest trade value
and the Cowboys would be wise to trade him that day
and get probably a second for him (that can be debated of course)

Sam Bradfor (second round pick for trade)
has an equally ridiculous contract and has missed 35% of his career to injury
and the first playoff game this season he will go down in a crumpled heap
and so will the Vikings... along with their 2nd round pick

But every minute after DAY ONE Romo's value will drop
particularly if Jerry Jones decide to play him
and lets not pretend Jason Garrett has any say in this either

Quite frankly:
They should be negotiating with teams for Romo RIGHT NOW..!!!
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bandl wrote:
Vidav wrote:

:roll:
In no particular order
Staubach
White
Aikman

Which one do you place him above?
White & Aikman.

Romo holds the Cowboys record for career passing yards and is the 5th. highest rated passer in NFL history. And there's also this truth (from wikipedia):
Since 2006, Tony Romo has a higher passer rating in the 4th quarter than any other NFL quarterback.
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After Monday Night quarterback display by the JETS
please tell me again what the JETS wouldn't do for a real quarterback

Seriously... They have a solid defense
All they lack is a QB that can move a little bit and throw a little bit

:rofl:

The JETS would sell the farm to get Romo
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This is some of the most disgusting stuff I've ever heard. Romo is fine during the course of a game, but he has a penchant for pressure-time picks and fumbles. Has everyone for got the time he dropped a PAT snap against the Iggles and then fumbled AGAIN trying to get it across the goal line himself? The thing about LeBaron, Meredith, Staubach, White, and Aikman is that NONE of them had that issue. Staubach was known as Captain Comeback, and White had a few miracle wins of his own. Plus, White was trustworthy enough to also punt, something Romo would probably botch. In terms of crunch time, Romo is the absolute WORST regular starting QB in Cowboys history....
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SuperHornet wrote:This is some of the most disgusting stuff I've ever heard. Romo is fine during the course of a game, but he has a penchant for pressure-time picks and fumbles. Has everyone for got the time he dropped a PAT snap against the Iggles and then fumbled AGAIN trying to get it across the goal line himself? The thing about LeBaron, Meredith, Staubach, White, and Aikman is that NONE of them had that issue. Staubach was known as Captain Comeback, and White had a few miracle wins of his own. Plus, White was trustworthy enough to also punt, something Romo would probably botch. In terms of crunch time, Romo is the absolute WORST regular starting QB in Cowboys history....
You mean the QB with the most 4th quarter comebacks in Cowboys history? :coffee:
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https://www.ticketcity.com/news-article ... e-nfl.html

Hate all you want SH but he is better than you give him credit for.
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Vidav wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:This is some of the most disgusting stuff I've ever heard. Romo is fine during the course of a game, but he has a penchant for pressure-time picks and fumbles. Has everyone for got the time he dropped a PAT snap against the Iggles and then fumbled AGAIN trying to get it across the goal line himself? The thing about LeBaron, Meredith, Staubach, White, and Aikman is that NONE of them had that issue. Staubach was known as Captain Comeback, and White had a few miracle wins of his own. Plus, White was trustworthy enough to also punt, something Romo would probably botch. In terms of crunch time, Romo is the absolute WORST regular starting QB in Cowboys history....
You mean the QB with the most 4th quarter comebacks in Cowboys history? :coffee:
Other QB's did more in the first 3 quarters not to be in that predicament.
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Chizzang wrote:Career Passer Rating
Manning 96.5
Romo 97.1

Career Completion Percentage
Manning 65.3
Romo 65.3

Career Touchdown to interception ratio
Manning 2.14
Romo 2.11

Career winning percentage
Manning .684
Romo .602
And Manning is a first ballot, lock HOF'er and Romo will need to wait awhile. Maybe Manning will let Romo look at his rings if and when Romo does get in.
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GannonFan wrote:
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You mean the QB with the most 4th quarter comebacks in Cowboys history? :coffee:
Other QB's did more in the first 3 quarters not to be in that predicament.
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Chizzang wrote:
bandl wrote:

Again, whether any team SHOULD is a totally different question, and we're probably all in agreement that no team SHOULD. But Romo has a wonderfully lubricated vagina apparently, so if he is available I think he'll get signed somewhere without a doubt (if it comes to that point...Jones will do his best to **** this situation up as much as possible, which will be fun to watch).
Exactly... ^
Whoever said "Should" wasn't reading my thread header post

What I'm talking about is:
The day - the Minute - Tony Romo comes off IR will be his highest trade value
and the Cowboys would be wise to trade him that day
and get probably a second for him (that can be debated of course)

Sam Bradfor (second round pick for trade)
has an equally ridiculous contract and has missed 35% of his career to injury
and the first playoff game this season he will go down in a crumpled heap
and so will the Vikings... along with their 2nd round pick

But every minute after DAY ONE Romo's value will drop
particularly if Jerry Jones decide to play him
and lets not pretend Jason Garrett has any say in this either

Quite frankly:
They should be negotiating with teams for Romo RIGHT NOW..!!!
The difference are four things -

1) Bradford wasn't hurt right before being traded to Minnesota and Bradford wasn't coming off a second major injury that kept him out of the majority of last year and pretty much all but one preseason possession this season. Basically Bradford was upright and playing just prior to the trade where the last thing people saw of Romo was him crumbling to the ground again the last time he was hit.

2) Bradford's contract was far easier to deal with than Romo's - Bradford was basically riding a one year deal with little to no cap hit in year 2. Romo is signed through his 40th birthday, with each year escalating in cost. His cap hit next year when team's find out he can't play anymore because he's injured again is much higher than Bradford's would've been.

3) Bradford is 28 years old. Romo is 36. There's potential for Bradford, just based on age, to play another 6-8 years. People were already calling Manning too old last year and he was 39. Regardless of injuries, Romo is just nearing the end of his career just because of the calendar.

4) Bradford was traded before the season started. Everybody thought they were in contention then. It'll be at least week 8 before Romo can even get on the field, and longer than that if he's traded. Bradford went to a team with real hopes this year after a playoff run last year - all the pieces were there, just had to not have a huge dropoff at QB. You guys are talking about Romo going to a team with no chance of making the playoffs this year. Why would the Jets, at 1-5 now and basically out of the playoffs (and could be 1-7 by the time Romo takes over), take a flyer on Romo rather than, say, Bryce Petty who they just drafted this year? Why would they give the cowboys a 2nd round pick and pick up that contract now?
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GannonFan wrote:
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You mean the QB with the most 4th quarter comebacks in Cowboys history? :coffee:
Other QB's did more in the first 3 quarters not to be in that predicament.
I'm not sure if you can't read or if you just hate so don't care, but if you notice SH was complaining about Romo being the worst QB in crunch time in Cowboys history. So we are discussing the 4th quarter, not the first three. :dunce:
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Vidav wrote:
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Other QB's did more in the first 3 quarters not to be in that predicament.
I'm not sure if you can't read or if you just hate so don't care, but if you notice SH was complaining about Romo being the worst QB in crunch time in Cowboys history. So we are discussing the 4th quarter, not the first three. :dunce:
Throw me in the don't care department. They aren't trading him to a team for a second round pick this year unless a team in contention loses their QB right now (and I don't think the Steelers trade for him - that would be a human rights violation for him to be put behind that offensive line).
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GannonFan wrote:
Vidav wrote:
I'm not sure if you can't read or if you just hate so don't care, but if you notice SH was complaining about Romo being the worst QB in crunch time in Cowboys history. So we are discussing the 4th quarter, not the first three. :dunce:
Throw me in the don't care department. They aren't trading him to a team for a second round pick this year unless a team in contention loses their QB right now (and I don't think the Steelers trade for him - that would be a human rights violation for him to be put behind that offensive line).
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SuperHornet wrote:I have always been a proponent of the theory that a starting quarterback does NOT lose his job due to injury. Tony Romo, on the other hand, is making me SERIOUSLY re-think that. Prescott is doing an AMAZING job, and short of signing Danny White, Prescott is their best option at this point.

Someone might take Romo if the price is right (cash or a LOW draft pick) as insurance, but his days as a regular starter are likely long gone....
Romo might call it a career and head to booth as a analyst.Ppl in media said he is very popular.Anyone thinks he is HOF material at this stage of his career he owns all of the Cowboy career passing marks.
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Chizzang wrote:Career Passer Rating
Manning 96.5
Romo 97.1

Career Completion Percentage
Manning 65.3
Romo 65.3

Career Touchdown to interception ratio
Manning 2.14
Romo 2.11

Career winning percentage
Manning .684
Romo .602
Very competitive!!!!!!!
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Heads - up
It sounds like the RAMS are willing to give up a 2nd and a 4th pick for Tony Romo
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Chizzang wrote:Heads - up
It sounds like the RAMS are willing to give up a 2nd and a 4th pick for Tony Romo
Sure. I mean, the Rams only just this year gave up two second rounds and two third rounds from this year's draft, as well as a first and a third for next years draft for a QB they are not willing to play this year in Goff, so why not go ahead and give away more draft picks for a guy that won't even suit up for another week or so, at best. Truly, the only way that Romo gets traded for such a haul is if the Rams can continue to exhibit the absolute incompetence that they have been trending towards. Adding Romo's huge salary to Goff's salary at the same QB position should really cement the Rams as doomed going forward. Sounds like a winner! :rofl:
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Chizzang wrote:Heads - up
It sounds like the RAMS are willing to give up a 2nd and a 4th pick for Tony Romo
This would be dumb. They have a better QB on their coaching staff, and he's still young enough to actually be successful....
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