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Pwns wrote:I do not know a single college-educated Republican who voted Trump. That includes friends, family, and coworkers. The polls show the same trend as my anecdata. It's not the white middle class that nominated Trump.
Exaclty. I know many college-educated Republicans that voted for him.

And most of them are in the medical fields.
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Pwns wrote:I do not know a single college-educated Republican who voted Trump. That includes friends, family, and coworkers. The polls show the same trend as my anecdata. It's not the white middle class that nominated Trump.
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Pwns wrote:I do not know a single college-educated Republican who voted Trump. That includes friends, family, and coworkers. The polls show the same trend as my anecdata. It's not the white middle class that nominated Trump.
Link? I looked and can't find one that shows how the vote broke down in the Republican primaries among those with college degrees. I suspect that when you take all 50 states, while not a plurality, Trump had more votes from those with college degrees than Boobs, Little Marco, or Kasich..
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Pwns wrote:I do not know a single college-educated Republican who voted Trump. That includes friends, family, and coworkers. The polls show the same trend as my anecdata. It's not the white middle class that nominated Trump.
Link? I looked and can't find one that shows how the vote broke down in the Republican primaries among those with college degrees. I suspect that when you take all 50 states, while not a plurality, Trump had more votes from those with college degrees than Boobs, Little Marco, or Kasich..
You have to remember that during the Republican primaries there was that phenomenon whereby Trump benefited from the large field. Here's an old article on that:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/03/ ... 457450605/

I think it likely that if you'd have had a "one on one" poll between Trump and C r u z, Rubio, or Kasich back in 2015 Trump would've been seen as losing substantially among college educated White voters against any of those three.

Anyway, Trump is the first Republican candidate ever to be polling as behind among college educated White voters at this point of a general election.
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Again, when you look at the education x race combinations right now this is what you get in terms of who the majority of each group will vote for:

No college degree White - Trump
College degree White - Clinton
No college degree Hispanic - Clinton
College degree Hispanic - Clinton
No college degree Black - Clinton
College degree Black -Clinton
No college degree Asian - Clinton
College degree Asian - Clinton
No college degree "other" - Clinton
College degree "other" - Clinton

You get the picture.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Again, when you look at the education x race combinations right now this is what you get in terms of who the majority of each group will vote for:

No college degree White - Trump
College degree White - Clinton
No college degree Hispanic - Clinton
College degree Hispanic - Clinton
No college degree Black - Clinton
College degree Black -Clinton
No college degree Asian - Clinton
College degree Asian - Clinton
No college degree "other" - Clinton
College degree "other" - Clinton

You get the picture.
You are looking at overall national numbers. None of that really matters. You can win the overall national vote and still lose the election. How do those groups look in the battleground states?
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CAA Flagship wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Again, when you look at the education x race combinations right now this is what you get in terms of who the majority of each group will vote for:

No college degree White - Trump
College degree White - Clinton
No college degree Hispanic - Clinton
College degree Hispanic - Clinton
No college degree Black - Clinton
College degree Black -Clinton
No college degree Asian - Clinton
College degree Asian - Clinton
No college degree "other" - Clinton
College degree "other" - Clinton

You get the picture.
You are looking at overall national numbers. None of that really matters. You can win the overall national vote and still lose the election. How do those groups look in the battleground states?
In that context I'm not looking for indications of who will win the election. I'm looking at the demographics of who is and who is not supporting Trump. For the national election context I look at national and State by State polls. And when you look at that you have to say Clinton has a substantial advantage right now. I'm not saying that can't change. As I've said many times I'm concerned about the Assange/Wikilieaks stuff. But if the election were held tomorrow I think the likelihood is very high that Trump would lose and it wouldn't be that close.
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Here's an article that tells you all you need to know about Trump supporters:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/
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JohnStOnge wrote:Here's an article that tells you all you need to know about Trump supporters:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/
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JohnStOnge wrote:Here's an article that tells you all you need to know about Trump supporters:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/ ... /92058964/
This is all you need to know about Hillary supporters:

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Another article with some interesting demographic numbers:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/op ... itics.com/

Perhaps it should be called "Smart, White, Useful Idiots?

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Clucky: Still the dumbest motherfucker on the board, after all these years.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Clucky: Still the dumbest motherfucker on the board, after all these years.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Clucky: Still the dumbest motherfucker on the board, after all these years.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:Clucky: Still the dumbest motherfucker on the board, after all these years.

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JohnStOnge wrote:Again, when you look at the education x race combinations right now this is what you get in terms of who the majority of each group will vote for:

No college degree White - Trump
College degree White - Clinton
No college degree Hispanic - Clinton
College degree Hispanic - Clinton
No college degree Black - Clinton
College degree Black -Clinton
No college degree Asian - Clinton
College degree Asian - Clinton
No college degree "other" - Clinton
College degree "other" - Clinton

You get the picture.
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