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[Ibanez]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. NO, not worse, but not better, smarter, more of a message, etc...

Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't read all your posts so forgive me if I'm not fully up to speed on your voting intentions.

And you may be taking crazy pills.

Goddamnit ASU, get it together. Did we not talk about this.....

[89Hen]

I know you don't stalk me, but for goodness sake, it's been said a dozen times.... NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Like you said, I don't stalk you and I've asked you at least twice (though I don't know how often, if at all, you've responded.)

Evan McMullin?

Sorry, it was answered in this very thread. Perhaps you didn't know that's what NOTA was. I can't in good conscience vote for Trump and there is no way in hell I'd vote for Hillary. I will most likely do a write-in and it very well could be Giant Meteor. IMO that's more of a message than Gary Johnson.

[Chizzang]

I can't get this image of 89hen out of my head...

[Ibanez]

Like you said, I don't stalk you and I've asked you at least twice (though I don't know how often, if at all, you've responded.)

Evan McMullin?

Sorry, it was answered in this very thread. Perhaps you didn't know that's what NOTA was. I can't in good conscience vote for Trump and there is no way in hell I'd vote for Hillary. I will most likely do a write-in and it very well could be Giant Meteor. IMO that's more of a message than Gary Johnson.

I don't know what, "NOTA" was, never seen that before for ' None of the above."

The way you feel about 3rd party candidates is how I feel about a write-in. You might as well stay home and lie about voting. What's the point?

[CAA Flagship]

Yes, but I realize that's not a great place to be. The Johnson voters are deluding themselves that they are somehow either making a difference or are smarter for voting for him. That's my bone of contention.

I'm still not understanding your dislike of making a conscience vote in a state where it's decidedly going one way or another. If I was still in NC or another battleground state, I'd understand your point more and would reluctantly choose a side. Here in SC, not so much.

Two national scenarios:
1) Hillary 47% Trump 45%
2) Hillary 55% Trump 37%

Which scenario would give Hillary the "balls" to push her entire agenda without conceding even a little bit to the right?

Over? Did you say Over?

[AshevilleApp]

Yes, but I realize that's not a great place to be. The Johnson voters are deluding themselves that they are somehow either making a difference or are smarter for voting for him. That's my bone of contention.

I'm still not understanding your dislike of making a conscience vote in a state where it's decidedly going one way or another. If I was still in NC or another battleground state, I'd understand your point more and would reluctantly choose a side. Here in SC, not so much.

Just got back from voting in a battleground state. Went with Johnson for Pres and Sean Haugh for Senate. I simply couldn't make myself pull the trigger for Trump or Clinton in one case. Haugh is a riot, and who wouldn't want a 51 year pizza delivery in the Senate?

[ASUG8]

I'm still not understanding your dislike of making a conscience vote in a state where it's decidedly going one way or another. If I was still in NC or another battleground state, I'd understand your point more and would reluctantly choose a side. Here in SC, not so much.

Just got back from voting in a battleground state. Went with Johnson for Pres and Sean Haugh for Senate. I simply couldn't make myself pull the trigger for Trump or Clinton in one case. Haugh is a riot, and who wouldn't want a 51 year pizza delivery in the Senate?

Had to Google him. Hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

[AZGrizFan]

15 yards for gross generalization, plus loss of down. This Johnson voter is voting for GJ because he's the only fiscally conservative, small-government type in the race, and his foreign policy stance is likewise closer to mine. I disagree with Johnson on Planned Parenthood issues and immigration. I'm not deluding myself about anything. Nor do I think I'm smarter than you because I'm voting for Johnson.

Well, maybe a little!

As am I, IT, but like you, it has nothing to do with voting for Johnson.

[89Hen]

Sorry, it was answered in this very thread. Perhaps you didn't know that's what NOTA was. I can't in good conscience vote for Trump and there is no way in hell I'd vote for Hillary. I will most likely do a write-in and it very well could be Giant Meteor. IMO that's more of a message than Gary Johnson.

I don't know what, "NOTA" was, never seen that before for ' None of the above."

The way you feel about 3rd party candidates is how I feel about a write-in. You might as well stay home and lie about voting. What's the point?

There is none and I don't care. Neither matter.

[AshevilleApp]

Just got back from voting in a battleground state. Went with Johnson for Pres and Sean Haugh for Senate. I simply couldn't make myself pull the trigger for Trump or Clinton in one case. Haugh is a riot, and who wouldn't want a 51 year pizza delivery in the Senate?

Had to Google him. Hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

I was hooked in the last Senate election here. They finally allowed him into the final debate. At one point, Tillis (current Republican in the seat) said, " unlike my Republican opponent, I .......", and stammered. Haugh laughed and said " don't worry Thom, I can't tell the difference between your two parties either."

[AZGrizFan]

I don't know what, "NOTA" was, never seen that before for ' None of the above."

The way you feel about 3rd party candidates is how I feel about a write-in. You might as well stay home and lie about voting. What's the point?

There is none and I don't care. Neither matter.

Who knew you were such an "establishment" guy....

[SeattleGriz]

This is precisely what I said months ago. Democrats will all vote Hillary in the end. Republicans who want to make a cute moral stand will actually stick to their stupidity and ensure Hillary the White House.

I'm apparently a registered Democrat. I won't vote for Hillary or The Donald. Johnson is the best candidate. So fack your cute little moral stands rhetoric.

Guess what folks, this country will survive either of these lousy candidates. Quit acting like the future of the Republic depends on 2016. I've never seen such drama. Carry on.

Oh yeah, you're fat.

[AshevilleApp]

I'm apparently a registered Democrat. I won't vote for Hillary or The Donald. Johnson is the best candidate. So fack your cute little moral stands rhetoric.

Guess what folks, this country will survive either of these lousy candidates. Quit acting like the future of the Republic depends on 2016. I've never seen such drama. Carry on.

Oh yeah, you're fat.

I'm old and balding as well. Tell me something I don't already know.

[kalm]

I'm still not understanding your dislike of making a conscience vote in a state where it's decidedly going one way or another. If I was still in NC or another battleground state, I'd understand your point more and would reluctantly choose a side. Here in SC, not so much.

I thought my post and position is pretty clear, but I guess not. It's not the vote for Johnson that bothers me at all. Vote for whomever the hell you want. It's the pious stance that many of the Johnson voters are taking that they are somehow sending a message or making a difference or are somehow smarter for voting for Johnson. IMO they are not. Does Johnson have some good ideas? Sure. So does Trump and Hillary and even Cleets girl. But Johnson is a buffoon on the order of Trump, he just doesn't get as much press.

BTW, next line out of somebody's mouth will be "If half the people who said voting for Johnson...." It's round and round we go.

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

[CAA Flagship]

I thought my post and position is pretty clear, but I guess not. It's not the vote for Johnson that bothers me at all. Vote for whomever the hell you want. It's the pious stance that many of the Johnson voters are taking that they are somehow sending a message or making a difference or are somehow smarter for voting for Johnson. IMO they are not. Does Johnson have some good ideas? Sure. So does Trump and Hillary and even Cleets girl. But Johnson is a buffoon on the order of Trump, he just doesn't get as much press.

BTW, next line out of somebody's mouth will be "If half the people who said voting for Johnson...." It's round and round we go.

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

3) think it's cool to be part of a "revolution" like the Bernie Sanders supporters.

[kalm]

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

3) think it's cool to be part of a "revolution" like the Bernie Sanders supporters.

Who?

[Gil Dobie]

I thought my post and position is pretty clear, but I guess not. It's not the vote for Johnson that bothers me at all. Vote for whomever the hell you want. It's the pious stance that many of the Johnson voters are taking that they are somehow sending a message or making a difference or are somehow smarter for voting for Johnson. IMO they are not. Does Johnson have some good ideas? Sure. So does Trump and Hillary and even Cleets girl. But Johnson is a buffoon on the order of Trump, he just doesn't get as much press.

BTW, next line out of somebody's mouth will be "If half the people who said voting for Johnson...." It's round and round we go.

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

Abstaining is a choice, just means there is nobody that fits the person's philosophy.

[kalm]

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

Abstaining is a choice, just means there is nobody that fits the person's philosophy.

Sure. My point is that it sends less of a message than voting for someone.

[CAA Flagship]

3) think it's cool to be part of a "revolution" like the Bernie Sanders supporters.

Who?

You wrote the fucking sentence. I just added to it.

The "who" is whoever "you" is.

[CAA Flagship]

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

Abstaining is a choice, just means there is nobody that fits the person's philosophy.

YOU are the only one that will fit YOUR philosophy. And YOU are not running.
SOMEBODY will get elected and it could impact your life.
Why not play defense against the candidate that fit's your philosophy the least.

[Ibanez]

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

3) think it's cool to be part of a "revolution" like the Bernie Sanders supporters.

It's funny you say that. I might just be forgetting, but I don't recall people giving Ron Paul and his 'Revolution" this much grief.

[CAA Flagship]

3) think it's cool to be part of a "revolution" like the Bernie Sanders supporters.

It's funny you say that. I might just be forgetting, but I don't recall people giving Ron Paul and his 'Revolution" this much grief.

Were you alive in 1987?

[Ibanez]

It's funny you say that. I might just be forgetting, but I don't recall people giving Ron Paul and his 'Revolution" this much grief.

Were you alive in 1987?

Yes....

[CAA Flagship]

Were you alive in 1987?

Yes....

How old were you then?

[89Hen]

I thought my post and position is pretty clear, but I guess not. It's not the vote for Johnson that bothers me at all. Vote for whomever the hell you want. It's the pious stance that many of the Johnson voters are taking that they are somehow sending a message or making a difference or are somehow smarter for voting for Johnson. IMO they are not. Does Johnson have some good ideas? Sure. So does Trump and Hillary and even Cleets girl. But Johnson is a buffoon on the order of Trump, he just doesn't get as much press.

BTW, next line out of somebody's mouth will be "If half the people who said voting for Johnson...." It's round and round we go.

You...Sir 89hen...of all people...are objecting to a pious stance?



Voting for Johnson sends a message that you 1) favor his platform (perhaps his demeanor) over Hillary's and Trump's, and 2) will consider 3rd party options.

Abstaining sends neither of these messages.

A 5% popular vote doesn't send a message about anything.

BTW, it takes one to know one. But the whole me being pious is a fabrication by Cleets, who is in fact the most pious person here. The only place where I really take a pious stance is my Game of the Week polls and that's mostly tongue in cheek.