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This deserved its own thread
travelinman67 wrote: Been there, done that. Pelosi, Reid, Gore, Waxman, Shea-Porter, Babs Lee, Dodd, Rangel and Murtha should all be serving time in Federal Prison. The Democrat lies and coverup pales anything the Republicans ever did.
Really? Well lets just see that...

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Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator from Puerto Rico, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9.


Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist from Colorado, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her.

Dick Armey (R-Texas), former professor, has been accused by The Dallas Observer of sexually harassing female students.

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner from Maine, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid for his second wife's abortion. Failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist from Maryland, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens.

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector from Virginia, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.


The Democrat lies and cover up pales anything the Republicans ever did. Are you sure???
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Great post, PG!
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:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

There is a whole lot more than that list by the way... if it get's ugly I'll drop another 20 or so...

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Corruption doesn't follow party lines. There are plenty of scumbags on both sides of the aisle.
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BlueHen86 wrote:Corruption doesn't follow party lines. There are plenty of scumbags on both sides of the aisle.
I think just about everybody except T-man is comfortable with that assessment... :lol:
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What apparently slipped your grasp is that all of the cited crimes committed by Republicans were crimes of moral turpitude, not crimes against our country.

Every one of the lying scum Democrats I cited have committed crimes against America and it's citizens, acting to destroy our nation's economy and/or render ineffective the rule of law and our constitution.

Worsening this debate is that any Democrat would be moronic enough to reflexively defend these crooks.

Just pathetic.
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travelinman67 wrote:What apparently slipped your grasp is that all of the cited crimes committed by Republicans were crimes of moral turpitude, not crimes against our country.

Every one of the lying scum Democrats I cited have committed crimes against America and it's citizens, acting to destroy our nation's economy and/or render ineffective the rule of law and our constitution.

Worsening this debate is that any Democrat would be moronic enough to reflexively defend these crooks.

Just pathetic.
Thing that Cleets pointed out is true though, it happens across the board on both sides of the party lines. If you are going to point out the Dems that do it then show the Reps that do it too.
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travelinman67 wrote:What apparently slipped your grasp is that all of the cited crimes committed by Republicans were crimes of moral turpitude, not crimes against our country.

Every one of the lying scum Democrats I cited have committed crimes against America and it's citizens, acting to destroy our nation's economy and/or render ineffective the rule of law and our constitution.

Worsening this debate is that any Democrat would be moronic enough to reflexively defend these crooks.

Just pathetic.
Talk about reflexively defending crooks, RummyCheneyIraqDubyaCondi. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Jesus, T, you're as diseased as native. Even more, cuz you're a hair sharper.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:What apparently slipped your grasp is that all of the cited crimes committed by Republicans were crimes of moral turpitude, not crimes against our country.

Every one of the lying scum Democrats I cited have committed crimes against America and it's citizens, acting to destroy our nation's economy and/or render ineffective the rule of law and our constitution.

Worsening this debate is that any Democrat would be moronic enough to reflexively defend these crooks.

Just pathetic.
Talk about reflexively defending crooks, RummyCheneyIraqDubyaCondi. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Jesus, T, you're as diseased as native. Even more, cuz you're a hair sharper.

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Like I said...

...it's apparently slipped your grasp. :roll:

You (DumbyDonk) seek to validate your willingly decrepit, hedonistic, amoral life by finding fault in those who reject amorality, and attempt to establish values and ethos. Every person has vices....

...EVERY PERSON...

...but merely uncovering those vices of people who seek spiritual transcendence doesn't change the original preface...

...you embrace amorality willingly, then attempt to justify your choice by finding ethical fault in others.

This is A SEPARATE ISSUE from demagoguery.

I hope this clarification brings this issue within your grasp.
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travelinman67 wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Talk about reflexively defending crooks, RummyCheneyIraqDubyaCondi. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Jesus, T, you're as diseased as native. Even more, cuz you're a hair sharper.

:coffee:
Like I said...

...it's apparently slipped your grasp. :roll:

You (DumbyDonk) seek to validate your willingly decrepit, hedonistic, amoral life by finding fault in those who reject amorality, and attempt to establish values and ethos. Every person has vices....

...EVERY PERSON...

...but merely uncovering those vices of people who seek spiritual transcendence doesn't change the original preface...

...you embrace amorality willingly, then attempt to justify your choice by finding ethical fault in others.

This is A SEPARATE ISSUE from demagoguery.

I hope this clarification brings this issue within your grasp.
Shorter T-Man:

Shame on you Cap for recognizing people are in fact not all saintly and perfect... you should be more like the American Taliban and attack others for being immoral while practicing our "wide stance" or im 14 year old boys, or having call girls dress up our senators in diapers
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dbackjon wrote:Great post, PG!
Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment.

Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa.


Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s.
Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress.

Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old.

Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.

REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.):
On June 11, 1976, Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, was reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah):
On June 13, 1976, Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.):
In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.

REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.):
On Aug. 8, 1980, during his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.):
On Oct. 3, 1980, Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.):
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane's conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds's more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.

REP. ERNIE KONNYU (D-Calif.):
In August 1987, two former Konnyu aides complained to the San Jose Mercury News that the freshman Republican had sexually harassed them. GOP leaders were unhappy with Konnyu's temperament to begin with, so it took little effort to find candidates who would take him on in the primary. Stanford professor Tom Campbell ousted Konnyu the following June.

SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.):
On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.):
The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.):
In response to a story in the Aug. 25, 1989, Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii):
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.

REP MEL REYNOLDS (D-Ill.):
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort.
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
travelinman67 wrote: Like I said...

...it's apparently slipped your grasp. :roll:

You (DumbyDonk) seek to validate your willingly decrepit, hedonistic, amoral life by finding fault in those who reject amorality, and attempt to establish values and ethos. Every person has vices....

...EVERY PERSON...

...but merely uncovering those vices of people who seek spiritual transcendence doesn't change the original preface...

...you embrace amorality willingly, then attempt to justify your choice by finding ethical fault in others.

This is A SEPARATE ISSUE from demagoguery.

I hope this clarification brings this issue within your grasp.
Shorter T-Man:

Shame on you Cap for recognizing people are in fact not all saintly and perfect... you should be more like the American Taliban and attack others for being immoral while practicing our "wide stance" or im 14 year old boys, or having call girls dress up our senators in diapers
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Z... while double-dipping most of the incidents (and right after zinging jon for that on another thread...)

notice how you've got nothing after 1994... 15 years ago.

not saying there arent incidents (Tim Mahoney in FL, was one example) but for real?
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Z... while double-dipping most of the incidents (and right after zinging jon for that on another thread...)

notice how you've got nothing after 1994... 15 years ago.

not saying there arent incidents (Tim Mahoney in FL, was one example) but for real?
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Z... while double-dipping most of the incidents (and right after zinging jon for that on another thread...)

notice how you've got nothing after 1994... 15 years ago.

not saying there arent incidents (Tim Mahoney in FL, was one example) but for real?
I didn't MAKE the list....just googled it. In fact, didn't even read it. :mrgreen:
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travelinman67 wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Z... while double-dipping most of the incidents (and right after zinging jon for that on another thread...)

notice how you've got nothing after 1994... 15 years ago.

not saying there arent incidents (Tim Mahoney in FL, was one example) but for real?
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consensual sex with an adult of the opposite sex!!! omg!!! the scandal of it all!!!

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
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consensual sex with an adult of the opposite sex!!! omg!!! the scandal of it all!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yep. Sexual harassment only applies to us peons below the level of POTUS. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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