Thankful for SCOTUS

[kalm]

A moderate liberal or a radical?

(back...where we started...)

Not quite kalm. Clearly you implied that Hillary would be appointing middle of the road folks maybe even slightly to the right...

a center right politician like Hillary appoint moderates to the court!

Hillary would have appointed judges FIRMLY in the liberal camp. Please tell me you don't suggest otherwise.

I didn't. Next thing you're going to suggest that Hillary was a liberal too....

[kalm]

A moderate liberal or a radical?

(back...where we started...)

Well, we know that Hildabitch wanted to overrule Citizens United, which makes her a know-nothing radical who would have made that a litmus test for the SCOTUS. But she didn't figure that such a ruling might put the Clinton Foundation out of business.

Only corporatist ideologues (like you and Ganny) agree with CU. But keep beating that drum...

[Ivytalk]

Not quite kalm. Clearly you implied that Hillary would be appointing middle of the road folks maybe even slightly to the right...



Hillary would have appointed judges FIRMLY in the liberal camp. Please tell me you don't suggest otherwise.

I didn't. Next thing you're going to suggest that Hillary was a liberal too....

Well, she is. Or have you forgotten Hillarycare?

[89Hen]

Not quite kalm. Clearly you implied that Hillary would be appointing middle of the road folks maybe even slightly to the right...



Hillary would have appointed judges FIRMLY in the liberal camp. Please tell me you don't suggest otherwise.

I didn't. Next thing you're going to suggest that Hillary was a liberal too....

So you are suggesting otherwise. Like I said earlier, this election has revealed some very interesting things about some of our posters. You seem to be hellbent on filling Jon's shoes these days.

[GannonFan]

Well, we know that Hildabitch wanted to overrule Citizens United, which makes her a know-nothing radical who would have made that a litmus test for the SCOTUS. But she didn't figure that such a ruling might put the Clinton Foundation out of business.

Only corporatist ideologues (like you and Ganny) agree with CU. But keep beating that drum...

I like free speech and am now labeled an ideologue. Kalm taking a page from his leftist/liberal playbook and tarring and feathering anyone who has ideas that differ from his own orthodoxy. Didn't Hitler support something similar to Citizens United? Shouldn't you be using that reference on Mondays? Don't stray from the playbook.

[kalm]

I didn't. Next thing you're going to suggest that Hillary was a liberal too....

So you are suggesting otherwise. Like I said earlier, this election has revealed some very interesting things about some of our posters. You seem to be hellbent on filling Jon's shoes these days.

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines? I couldn't stand Hillary and was pretty open about that. I was done with the Democratic establishment before the election and it only confirmed my suspicions. I was also disappointed in Bernie for backing Hillary.

[kalm]

Only corporatist ideologues (like you and Ganny) agree with CU. But keep beating that drum...

I like free speech and am now labeled an ideologue. Kalm taking a page from his leftist/liberal playbook and tarring and feathering anyone who has ideas that differ from his own orthodoxy. Didn't Hitler support something similar to Citizens United? Shouldn't you be using that reference on Mondays? Don't stray from the playbook.

Nah...I just like common sense and free speech for people.

[89Hen]

So you are suggesting otherwise. Like I said earlier, this election has revealed some very interesting things about some of our posters. You seem to be hellbent on filling Jon's shoes these days.

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines?

Yes. Do you remember who Bill's first pick for SCOTUS was? Mario Cuomo

[GannonFan]

I like free speech and am now labeled an ideologue. Kalm taking a page from his leftist/liberal playbook and tarring and feathering anyone who has ideas that differ from his own orthodoxy. Didn't Hitler support something similar to Citizens United? Shouldn't you be using that reference on Mondays? Don't stray from the playbook.

Nah...I just like common sense and free speech for people.

Yes, I'm sure common sense, at least as you see it of course, since that's how you meant it, is a perfectly stable method of governing.

[GannonFan]

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines?

Yes. Do you remember who Bill's first pick for SCOTUS was? Mario Cuomo

Don't stop there - kalm has literally just called Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer "center-right" justices. Now, I like Ginsburg, so it's not personal, but I don't think you'd find a person anywhere today who would call those two judges "center-right" the "right" meaning leaning towards the conservative side of arguments.

I think your earlier reference to JSO is more true than we thought - JSO lost all credibility in the pre-election runup, and now kalm is trying to out-JSO JSO in the post election postings.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Scalia was the most moderate justice in SCOTUS anyone that thinks he was remotely to the right needs to have their meds looked at.

He was no where close to conservative enough.

[kalm]

Yes. Do you remember who Bill's first pick for SCOTUS was? Mario Cuomo

Don't stop there - kalm has literally just called Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer "center-right" justices. Now, I like Ginsburg, so it's not personal, but I don't think you'd find a person anywhere today who would call those two judges "center-right" the "right" meaning leaning towards the conservative side of arguments.

I think your earlier reference to JSO is more true than we thought - JSO lost all credibility in the pre-election runup, and now kalm is trying to out-JSO JSO in the post election postings.

I was referring to the Clinton's as center right politicians. Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with. It's not my fault your view of the center is skewed.

[kalm]

Scalia was the most moderate justice in SCOTUS anyone that thinks he was remotely to the right needs to have their meds looked at.

He was no where close to conservative enough.

I rest my case....

[GannonFan]

Don't stop there - kalm has literally just called Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer "center-right" justices. Now, I like Ginsburg, so it's not personal, but I don't think you'd find a person anywhere today who would call those two judges "center-right" the "right" meaning leaning towards the conservative side of arguments.

I think your earlier reference to JSO is more true than we thought - JSO lost all credibility in the pre-election runup, and now kalm is trying to out-JSO JSO in the post election postings.

I was referring to the Clinton's as center right politicians. Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with. It's not my fault your view of the center is skewed.

So you're doubling down and insisting that Ginsberg is a center-right Justice??? Breyer too?? And it's all our fault that we can't see that they are? Slow down, man, JSO was much more gradual in his deterioration of logic. At this rate you're going to pull a muscle or something.

[89Hen]

Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with.

I think you better review the thread before you post again.

[kalm]

I was referring to the Clinton's as center right politicians. Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with. It's not my fault your view of the center is skewed.

So you're doubling down and insisting that Ginsberg is a center-right Justice??? Breyer too?? And it's all our fault that we can't see that they are?

Huh...

[kalm]

Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with.

I think you better review the thread before you post again.

Here's my post that got you going...

I'm thankful too for dodging that bullet of having a center right politician like Hillary appoint moderates to the court!

You already admitted that we don't know who she would have ended up appointing. Whether you like it or not, the Clinton's are moderates. I'd say center right to be exact (by historical and public polling patterns on policy) but I know you, Ganny, and IT really don't like that.

Bottom line...I stand by my original post which was to sarcastically point out how we just narrowly dodged the bullet of slipping into sociocommieliberal anarchy if Hillary had been appointing judges.

[GannonFan]

I think you better review the thread before you post again.

Here's my post that got you going...

I'm thankful too for dodging that bullet of having a center right politician like Hillary appoint moderates to the court!

You already admitted that we don't know who she would have ended up appointing. Whether you like it or not, the Clinton's are moderates. I'd say center right to be exact (by historical and public polling patterns on policy) but I know you, Ganny, and IT really don't like that.

Bottom line...I stand by my original post which was to sarcastically point out how we just narrowly dodged the bullet of slipping into sociocommieliberal anarchy if Hillary had been appointing judges.

Stop it, you've dug a plenty deep hole as it is, roughly about 6.93 feet of a hole. You said Clinton was center-right, like her husband, and would've picked judges to match that philosophy, like her husband did. Of course, Bill picked two of the more liberal judges the Court has seen in decades in Ginsburg and Breyer, so that's where you fell back into your JSO impersonation.

[YoUDeeMan]

Jesus, kalm, you are getting killed again.

[Vidav]

The idea that SCOTUS justices can have leanings proves how worthless it is. It is not unbiased interpretation of the law.

[Ivytalk]

Don't stop there - kalm has literally just called Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer "center-right" justices. Now, I like Ginsburg, so it's not personal, but I don't think you'd find a person anywhere today who would call those two judges "center-right" the "right" meaning leaning towards the conservative side of arguments.

I think your earlier reference to JSO is more true than we thought - JSO lost all credibility in the pre-election runup, and now kalm is trying to out-JSO JSO in the post election postings.

I was referring to the Clinton's as center right politicians. Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with. It's not my fault your view of the center is skewed.

Your view of the "center," Klam, is about 30 yards to the left of the 50-yard line.

[kalm]

Here's my post that got you going...



You already admitted that we don't know who she would have ended up appointing. Whether you like it or not, the Clinton's are moderates. I'd say center right to be exact (by historical and public polling patterns on policy) but I know you, Ganny, and IT really don't like that.

Bottom line...I stand by my original post which was to sarcastically point out how we just narrowly dodged the bullet of slipping into sociocommieliberal anarchy if Hillary had been appointing judges.

Stop it, you've dug a plenty deep hole as it is, roughly about 6.93 feet of a hole. You said Clinton was center-right, like her husband, and would've picked judges to match that philosophy, like her husband did. Of course, Bill picked two of the more liberal judges the Court has seen in decades in Ginsburg and Breyer, so that's where you fell back into your JSO impersonation.

Here's what I "literally" said:

I'm thankful too for dodging that bullet of having a center right politician like Hillary appoint moderates to the court!

Here's the part that trips you up...

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines? I couldn't stand Hillary and was pretty open about that.

It reads...Hillary is center right (similar to her husband)...and would have made appointments along those lines...meaning she's center right like her husband so it make sense for her to nominate moderates. You read it into that that I was saying Bill's appointments were center right. I can see your confusion and I later admitted that Breyer and Ginsburg were liberal to clarify that.

I was referring to the Clinton's as center right politicians. Bill's appointments maybe liberal but not exactly hair on fire liberals like 89 started this whole debate with.

I could have phrased it better but nowhere did I "literally" say the following like you accused:

Don't stop there - kalm has literally just called Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer "center-right" justices.

And after I had admitted that Breyer and Ginsburg were liberal you (to use your own word correctly this time) "literally" accused me again of stating they were center right.

So you're doubling down and insisting that Ginsberg is a center-right Justice??? Breyer too?? And it's all our fault that we can't see that they are?

I'm flattered that your desire to win an argument with me is so strong you have to "literally" make up shit that I said.

So for those keeping score:

Hillary is a center right politician just like her husband.

It makes sense that center right politicians might nominate moderate judges... BUT Bill didn't so it's not a lock.

[YoUDeeMan]

So for those keeping score:

Hillary is a center right politician just like her husband.

It makes sense that center right politicians might nominate moderate judges... BUT Bill didn't so it's not a lock.

Time to update the Periodic Chart...kalm is now the densest element known to mankind.

Hillary is NOT a center right politician. That is your mistake...and a big one. Huge. Gargantuan. Monumental, without much mental put into it.

Center left would be a much better description than center right, although I would lean even farther left on the scale.

You seem to forget that that Leftists can be intolerant, power hungry totalitarians that can bought and sold by big money, too (see Bernie).

[Ibanez]

So you are suggesting otherwise. Like I said earlier, this election has revealed some very interesting things about some of our posters. You seem to be hellbent on filling Jon's shoes these days.

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines? I couldn't stand Hillary and was pretty open about that. I was done with the Democratic establishment before the election and it only confirmed my suspicions. I was also disappointed in Bernie for backing Hillary.

Center Right? There's not Center Right about Clinton; she's firmly on the Left.

I can't believe this is even up for debate.

[kalm]

How so? Because I think Hillary is center right (similar to her husband) and would have made appointments along those lines? I couldn't stand Hillary and was pretty open about that. I was done with the Democratic establishment before the election and it only confirmed my suspicions. I was also disappointed in Bernie for backing Hillary.

Center Right? There's not Center Right about Clinton; she's firmly on the Left.

I can't believe this is even up for debate.

We've been through this before...just off the top of my head and I know there are more examples...

Neo-conservative on foreign policy...
Defender of Wall Street...
Against legalization of weed...
Believes Snowden is a traitor...
Security State...

Yeah...what a lib!

And yes...she's not the only one. Chuck Schumer is a Wall Street shill as well. The Democrats had to go after big money as the unions declined.

And yes...she pivoted to the left on free college education and paid lip service to a few other Bernie ideas but as we found out with Obama...most of the liberal campaign promises are "Hope" (in one hand).