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Re: "Alternative facts"

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
The problem I have with this, is how do I know that picture on the left wasn't taken at 10AM or 930AM? Am I supposed to trust Vox? I see that CNN did a gigapixel of the event but work is blocking the image.


If you don't want to trust anything you see on the internet... that's fine. You can verify everything yourself.

There were overhead shots every now and then during the inauguration. I didn't start watching until the speech. If you want to verify it for yourself, I'm sure there are plenty of videos on youtube.

The crowd shot above by Vox looks pretty damn similar to what I saw during the addresss... but, feel free to post something different.

I'm sure if there are better crowd shots they won't be that hard to find.
I tried looking, a lot of sites are blocked (except for this one. :? ) I watched the entire thing and honestly don't recall what the turnout was. But who cares? What does it matter? I only brought it up b/c clearly a left-leaning news site is going to report something that could be embarrassing to a person that leans right.
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Here is one from Time, a little less biased and a bigger Trump crowd, FWIW.

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Re: "Alternative facts"

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Grizalltheway wrote:The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:


If you don't want to trust anything you see on the internet... that's fine. You can verify everything yourself.

There were overhead shots every now and then during the inauguration. I didn't start watching until the speech. If you want to verify it for yourself, I'm sure there are plenty of videos on youtube.

The crowd shot above by Vox looks pretty damn similar to what I saw during the addresss... but, feel free to post something different.

I'm sure if there are better crowd shots they won't be that hard to find.
I tried looking, a lot of sites are blocked (except for this one. :? ) I watched the entire thing and honestly don't recall what the turnout was. But who cares? What does it matter? I only brought it up b/c clearly a left-leaning news site is going to report something that could be embarrassing to a person that leans right.
How well attended an inauguration or a rally, or protest was is a news worthy item.
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
I tried looking, a lot of sites are blocked (except for this one. :? ) I watched the entire thing and honestly don't recall what the turnout was. But who cares? What does it matter? I only brought it up b/c clearly a left-leaning news site is going to report something that could be embarrassing to a person that leans right.
How well attended an inauguration or a rally, or protest was is a news worthy item.
It probably wouldn't have been much of a story.

But, the Press Secretary used his first press conference to go on a rant about the attendance and calling it "the largest in history."

They wanted to make it a story for some reason. :?
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Gil Dobie wrote:Here is one from Time, a little less biased and a bigger Trump crowd, FWIW.

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You think that looks like a bigger Trump crowd? :?

2009 is on the left and 2017 is on the right
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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Grizalltheway wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Who?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:You think that looks like a bigger Trump crowd? :?
I think he was saying bigger than the VOX photo.
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SDHornet wrote:JSO still in full retard meltdown mode. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

If the Trumpers keep getting sucked in (trolled) to these weak as arguments they are going to get picked apart for the next 4 years.

:lol: @ 93's hilldogs inauguration meme. :thumb:
And Trump's inauguration is also a historic moment. It would be true that Trump would be just another white guy taking office if Trump was a white guy prior politician (which 38 of 43 POTUS prior to Obama were). Only 5 had never been elected to political office:
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Trump is the 1st president in US history to never have been employed by the govt. That is very historic.
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Here is one from Time, a little less biased and a bigger Trump crowd, FWIW.

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You think that looks like a bigger Trump crowd? :?

2009 is on the left and 2017 is on the right
:ohno: :ohno:
I believe he is comparing the Trump crowds in the two pictures.
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kalm wrote:How well attended an inauguration or a rally, or protest was is a news worthy item.
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Re: "Alternative facts"

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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:How well attended an inauguration or a rally, or protest was is a news worthy item.
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:suspicious:

I didn't say it needs to be the focal point, but it's a part of the story worthy of being reported on.
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89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:You think that looks like a bigger Trump crowd? :?
I think he was saying bigger than the VOX photo.

Looks to me like it just shows a portion of the crowd instead of the whole thing and eliminates quite a bit of white space at the back.

If there is much difference crowd-wise between the two photos... it isn't much. :lol:
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Grizalltheway wrote:The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.
Or 40% or 44%
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: :suspicious:
:suspicious:

I didn't say it needs to be the focal point, but it's a part of the story worthy of being reported on.
It was the lead story for much of the weekend.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.
Or 40% or 44%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201833/appro ... nears.aspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald ... ecord-low/
Which is still 20-30 points lower than other recent presidents...
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Here is one from Time, a little less biased and a bigger Trump crowd, FWIW.

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You think that looks like a bigger Trump crowd? :?

2009 is on the left and 2017 is on the right
Yes, it looks like a bigger Trump crowd than the picture you post showing only half the mall. I even stated in my first response that Obama's was probably bigger even with an unbiased photo.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
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I didn't say it needs to be the focal point, but it's a part of the story worthy of being reported on.
It was the lead story for much of the weekend.
How much of that was driven by the Trump admin's response?

Do you have pics to back it up? :mrgreen:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.
Or 40% or 44%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201833/appro ... nears.aspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald ... ecord-low/
My bad for citing Fox News. :lol:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... trump.html
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: It was the lead story for much of the weekend.
How much of that was driven by the Trump admin's response?

Do you have pics to back it up? :mrgreen:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote: I think he was saying bigger than the VOX photo.

Looks to me like it just shows a portion of the crowd instead of the whole thing and eliminates quite a bit of white space at the back.

If there is much difference crowd-wise between the two photos... it isn't much. :lol:
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So you are saying the left side of the Trump inauguration picture (only side showing in your photo) is almost equal to the right side of of the picture of the Trump inauguration?
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Please tell me this is satire... :rofl:

Seems Spicer is easily triggered by Dippin Dots :suspicious:
Before White House Press Secretary began fudging facts, he was fighting...Dippin’ Dots.

Starting in 2010, the man who would become the top spokesman for the President of the United States devoted scoops of tweets to attacking the beady frozen treat known as the “Ice Cream of the Future.”

Sean Spicer kept his cream conflict going for five years — stretching through his tenure with the Republican National Committee.

On April 7, 2010, Spicer — then working for Endeavor Global Strategies, a PR firm he cofounded — let it be known to his Twitter flock: “Dippin dots is NOT the ice cream of the future.”

In September 2011, after Spicer had joined the Republican National Committee as communications director, he brought back the issue, writing: “I think I have said this before but Dippin Dots are notthe ice cream of the future (sic).”

Two months later, Spicer shared a Wall Street Journal story about Dippin' Dots filing for bankruptcy.

His resentment seemed to melt for a few years, until September 2015. By then, he had advanced to become the RNC's chief strategist.

Spicer, possibly at a baseball game, tweeted: "If Dippin Dots was truly the ice cream of the future would not have run out of vanilla.” He tagged the Washington Nationals in his post.

A little over a year later, Donald Trump would tap Spicer as the next White House Press Secretary.

Spicer has yet to reignite his Dippin Dots dispute from the podium of the White House. Instead, he spent his first few days on the job combating the press on easily provable facts about President Trump’s inauguration.
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I knew it was FNC. And I knew you intentionally didn't mention the source in your OP as troll bait, waiting for someone to ask for source or link with he assumption it was a lib source, so you could go gotcha with FNC.. :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Please tell me this is satire... :rofl:

Seems Spicer is easily triggered by Dippin Dots :suspicious:
Before White House Press Secretary began fudging facts, he was fighting...Dippin’ Dots.

Starting in 2010, the man who would become the top spokesman for the President of the United States devoted scoops of tweets to attacking the beady frozen treat known as the “Ice Cream of the Future.”

Sean Spicer kept his cream conflict going for five years — stretching through his tenure with the Republican National Committee.

On April 7, 2010, Spicer — then working for Endeavor Global Strategies, a PR firm he cofounded — let it be known to his Twitter flock: “Dippin dots is NOT the ice cream of the future.”

In September 2011, after Spicer had joined the Republican National Committee as communications director, he brought back the issue, writing: “I think I have said this before but Dippin Dots are notthe ice cream of the future (sic).”

Two months later, Spicer shared a Wall Street Journal story about Dippin' Dots filing for bankruptcy.

His resentment seemed to melt for a few years, until September 2015. By then, he had advanced to become the RNC's chief strategist.

Spicer, possibly at a baseball game, tweeted: "If Dippin Dots was truly the ice cream of the future would not have run out of vanilla.” He tagged the Washington Nationals in his post.

A little over a year later, Donald Trump would tap Spicer as the next White House Press Secretary.

Spicer has yet to reignite his Dippin Dots dispute from the podium of the White House. Instead, he spent his first few days on the job combating the press on easily provable facts about President Trump’s inauguration.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... ign=buffer
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