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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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If a disinterested person looked in on my 5th thru 7th grade years they would think the god in schools was Loki


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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote:Hillary based her Senior thesis on Saul Alinsky and Obama also mentions him is many of his writings. Is the media promoting a contrived conflict? Society is definitely polarized.

Eight steps on how to create a social state, Saul Alinsky's take on Vlady Lenin's way to control the useful idiots.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote: Eight steps on how to create a social state, Saul Alinsky's take on Vlady Lenin's way to control the useful idiots.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

FAKE [old] NEWS!!! SAD!


http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp
Oh Gil! :lol:

From Alinsky's actual list:
The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote: Eight steps on how to create a social state, Saul Alinsky's take on Vlady Lenin's way to control the useful idiots.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

FAKE [old] NEWS!!! SAD!


http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp
True, Snopes = Fake News
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
No it's not, references to god are being removed from schools. Progressives use to mean something different than it does today. Today, many people I see that label themselves progressive, are very closed minded, like those commie bastards.
Official references to god don't belong in public schools other than in religious studies classes. We've been through this before. We're not a theocracy.
Saying a public school is associated with a specific god or religious of course doesn't belong.

How do you teach history or science or literature without? Religion has had good and bad influences on these subjects. It should be included in an unbiased way.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:

FAKE [old] NEWS!!! SAD!


http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp
True, Snopes = Fake News
What a world we live in!

Are you saying that the chain email you copy pasted from is true and the Snopes debunking is false?

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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote:
Official references to god don't belong in public schools other than in religious studies classes. We've been through this before. We're not a theocracy.
Saying a public school is associated with a specific god or religious of course doesn't belong.

How do you teach history or science or literature without? Religion has had good and bad influences on these subjects. It should be included in an unbiased way.
You're right. It has its place in those areas too for context.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
True, Snopes = Fake News
What a world we live in!

Are you saying that the chain email you copy pasted from is true and the Snopes debunking is false?

:suspicious:

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Ignorance believing the spin that snopes gives these things to make them look false.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote: Ignorance believing the spin that snopes gives these things to make them look false.
So, snopes is spinning the facts to make them look false? Ok...

What's the source of your original list, Doobie? :suspicious:
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
What a world we live in!

Are you saying that the chain email you copy pasted from is true and the Snopes debunking is false?

:suspicious:

Ignorance is strength!
Ignorance believing the spin that snopes gives these things to make them look false.
Jeezus Titty Fracking Christ Gil... :lol:
You posted a Facebook chain thread and now are going to double down to defend it as fact

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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote: Ignorance believing the spin that snopes gives these things to make them look false.

So, snopes is spinning the facts to make them look false? Ok...


What's the source of your original list, Doobie? :suspicious:
Glad you agree.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Chizzang wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Ignorance believing the spin that snopes gives these things to make them look false.
Jeezus Titty Fracking Christ Gil... :lol:
You posted a Facebook chain thread and now are going to double down to defend it as fact

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Everything you see on facebook is fact. I heard it on facebook. :lol:
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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[quote="Skjellyfetti"][/quote]

You don't see these things happening today?
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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kalm wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
Bus stop graffiti...soooooooooooooooooo much better than the coffee shop graffiti that you post. :lol:

There are not a large number of people that are more disconnected than you (and that has zero to do with what you think it says about you). :nod: :thumb:
...he said from in front of the Fornetto after a long hard day of sailing...

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You edited that. Did you decide to leave out the swim club? :suspicious:
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Chizzang wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
Bus stop graffiti...soooooooooooooooooo much better than the coffee shop graffiti that you post. :lol:

There are not a large number of people that are more disconnected than you (and that has zero to do with what you think it says about you). :nod: :thumb:
You seem very insightful and deep Cluck... You should post that on Facebook

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You'd have to show me how. I have never been on Facebook or any of the rest of those places.

CS.com, GoHens, and the occasional AGS is it. :thumb:
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Re: Is this Happening in America Today?

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Gil Dobie wrote:Is the media promoting a contrived conflict? Society is definitely polarized.

Eight steps on how to create a socialist state.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


TOTAL BULLSHIT :coffee:
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
No it's not, references to god are being removed from schools. Progressives use to mean something different than it does today. Today, many people I see that label themselves progressive, are very closed minded, like those commie bastards.
Official references to god don't belong in public schools other than in religious studies classes. We've been through this before. We're not a theocracy.
Religious classes in public school teach everything about the world religions, except Christianity.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Cluck U wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You seem very insightful and deep Cluck... You should post that on Facebook

:coffee:
You'd have to show me how. I have never been on Facebook or any of the rest of those places.

CS.com, GoHens, and the occasional AGS is it. :thumb:
Is that right...
Well you'd better stick with Gil
because that's where he gets his bright ideas
He'll help you out

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mrklean wrote:Typical Repuke outlook and Response :coffee:
I wish irony weren't lost on you kleany. :lol:
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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89Hen wrote:
mrklean wrote:Typical Repuke outlook and Response :coffee:
I wish irony weren't lost on you kleany. :lol:
Do you really think all of these programs hurt our country???
I saw NOTHING about the waste from the DOD.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Is the media promoting a contrived conflict? Society is definitely polarized.

Eight steps on how to create a socialist state.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
Yes, all of it is happening but not anymore

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mrklean wrote:
89Hen wrote: I wish irony weren't lost on you kleany. :lol:
Do you really think all of these programs hurt our country???
I saw NOTHING about the waste from the DOD.
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Chizzang wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
You'd have to show me how. I have never been on Facebook or any of the rest of those places.

CS.com, GoHens, and the occasional AGS is it. :thumb:
Is that right...
Well you'd better stick with Gil
because that's where he gets his bright ideas
He'll help you out

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That's where dback disappeared to, so there are not many bright ideas there.

Hope that helps. :thumb:
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Re: Hillary, Obama and Saul Alinsky

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Is that right...
Well you'd better stick with Gil
because that's where he gets his bright ideas
He'll help you out

:nod:
That's where dback disappeared to, so there are not many bright ideas there.

Hope that helps. :thumb:
Thank you, yes it does..
The two people on this forum I agree with the least
and who have some of the most poorly thought out arguments are You and Dback

So.. yeah it makes perfect sense

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