Magic Johnson

[Gil Dobie]

bandl aids?

Nah, I don't really like to help people do anything, other than shovel their driveways

We have 1-77 inches of snow in the forecast, and I have a 400 ft driveway. What are you doing tomorrow?

[bandl]

Nah, I don't really like to help people do anything, other than shovel their driveways

We have 1-77 inches of snow in the forecast, and I have a 400 ft driveway. What are you doing tomorrow?

Not shoveling. Sorry, you live outside my acceptable jurisdiction.
Besides, it's going to be 71 here tomorrow so I won't have a plow on or any shovels in my vehicle. It'll be warmer than it was on our last day in Orlando last week!

[Gil Dobie]

We have 1-77 inches of snow in the forecast, and I have a 400 ft driveway. What are you doing tomorrow?

Not shoveling. Sorry, you live outside my acceptable jurisdiction.
Besides, it's going to be 71 here tomorrow so I won't have a plow on or any shovels in my vehicle. It'll be warmer than it was on our last day in Orlando last week!

I was even going to let you use my lawn tractor with the snowblower on front.

[dal4018]

It's like comparing apples to oranges. Magic was a great point guard and Jordan was a great shooting guard. Both are in the top 10 all-time. If I had to start a team with one or the other, I really don't know which one I would pick first.

I would pick Bird..........hands down

How about Tom Chambers he was Bird with MAJOR ATHLETICISM out west played for Seattle&Phoenix.

[bandl]

I would pick Bird..........hands down

How about Tom Chambers????

He'd probably pick MJ

[dal4018]

How about Tom Chambers????

He'd probably pick MJ

Chambers was no joke ask Mark Jackson!!!!

[bandl]

He'd probably pick MJ

Chambers was no joke ask Mark Jackson!!!!

OK, be right back

[bandl]

I just axed Mark Jackson and he said hed pick MJ to

[dal4018]

Chambers was no joke ask Mark Jackson!!!!

OK, be right back

Go to youtube Bandl.

[bandl]

OK, be right back

Go to youtube Bandl.

That's a big website. Little more guidance, perhaps?

Actually, no. I really don't care about the NBA. I'm only here to troll.

[Gil Dobie]

I would pick Bird..........hands down

How about Tom Chambers he was Bird with MAJOR ATHLETICISM out west played for Seattle&Phoenix.

Time has come today.

Wrong Chambers.

Tom was good, but not upper echelon all-time good.

[dal4018]

How about Tom Chambers he was Bird with MAJOR ATHLETICISM out west played for Seattle&Phoenix.

Time has come today.

Wrong Chambers.

Tom was good, but not upper echelon all-time good.

His career scoring avg was identical to Bird's.As stated before he was an athletic version of Larry Bird.

[Gil Dobie]

Time has come today.

Wrong Chambers.

Tom was good, but not upper echelon all-time good.

His career scoring avg was identical to Bird's.As stated before he was an athletic version of Larry Bird.

No, Bird had better stats and more rings.

Chambers was 18.1 ppg, Bird 24.3 ppg
Chambers was 6.1 rpg, Bird 10.0 rpg

[Ibanez]

What?! All time, top 10 NBA (in my opinion)
1 - Michael Jordan
2 - LeBron James
3 - Karrem Abdul-Jabar
4 - Magic Johnson
5 - Wilt Chamberlin
6 - Shaquille O'Neal
7 - Larry Bird
8 - Hakeem Olajuwon
9 - Bill Russell
10 - Tim Duncan/Kobe Bryant/Dr. J

I'm sure you can make good arguments for Jerry West, Charles Barkley, Pippen, Kerr and others being in the Top 15.

I don't have LeBron, Shaq or Duncan in my top 10 yet, top 25 currently, IMO. Others look great in my top 10, plus Oscar Robertson and/or Pete Maravich.

I know next to nothing about basketball. I watched it in the late 80s and 90s (grew up a Chicago Bulls fan) and lost interest sometime around 2000.

What's your top 10?

[Ibanez]

His career scoring avg was identical to Bird's.As stated before he was an athletic version of Larry Bird.

No, Bird had better stats and more rings.

Chambers was 18.1 ppg, Bird 24.3 ppg
Chambers was 6.1 rpg, Bird 10.0 rpg

BOOM!

[Gil Dobie]

I don't have LeBron, Shaq or Duncan in my top 10 yet, top 25 currently, IMO. Others look great in my top 10, plus Oscar Robertson and/or Pete Maravich.

I know next to nothing about basketball. I watched it in the late 80s and 90s (grew up a Chicago Bulls fan) and lost interest sometime around 2000.

What's your top 10?

Pretty close to yours. LeBron, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan all on the cusp, but here's mine in no particular order. Westbrook and Durant have the skills to be close by the end of their careers.

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlin
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwon
Bill Russell
Dr. J
Oscar Robertson
Pete Maravich

[dal4018]

His career scoring avg was identical to Bird's.As stated before he was an athletic version of Larry Bird.

No, Bird had better stats and more rings.

Chambers was 18.1 ppg, Bird 24.3 ppg
Chambers was 6.1 rpg, Bird 10.0 rpg

Yeah plus the benefits of American media aka the hype machine.

[Ibanez]

No, Bird had better stats and more rings.

Chambers was 18.1 ppg, Bird 24.3 ppg
Chambers was 6.1 rpg, Bird 10.0 rpg

Yeah plus the benefits of American media aka the hype machine.

Oh for fucks sake. Bird was statisically better than Chambers. The 'hype machine' you're complaining about made/makes heroes/household names out of Dr. J, Johnson, Jordan, Shaq, Karl Malone, Wilt, Curry, Bill Russel, Garnett, Barkley, Iverson, Robinson, Ewing, Pippen, Rodman. Quick, how many WHITE, famous NBA players can you name?

Bird
Pistol Pete
Steve Kerr
That ugly German guy that plays for Dallas....

[dal4018]

Yeah plus the benefits of American media aka the hype machine.

Oh for **** sake. Bird was statisically better than Chambers. The 'hype machine' you're complaining about made/makes heroes/household names out of Dr. J, Johnson, Jordan, Shaq, Karl Malone, Wilt, Curry, Bill Russel, Garnett, Barkley, Iverson, Robinson, Ewing, Pippen, Rodman. Quick, how many WHITE, famous NBA players can you name?

Bird
Pistol Pete
Steve Kerr
That ugly German guy that plays for Dallas....

What decade???

[Ibanez]

Oh for **** sake. Bird was statisically better than Chambers. The 'hype machine' you're complaining about made/makes heroes/household names out of Dr. J, Johnson, Jordan, Shaq, Karl Malone, Wilt, Curry, Bill Russel, Garnett, Barkley, Iverson, Robinson, Ewing, Pippen, Rodman. Quick, how many WHITE, famous NBA players can you name?

Bird
Pistol Pete
Steve Kerr
That ugly German guy that plays for Dallas....

What decade???

I'll say 1970s-Present.

[SuperHornet]

John Stockton.

[Gil Dobie]

What decade???

I'll say 1970s-Present.

Besides Bird and Maravich

Bill Walton, as SH said John Stockton, Rick Barry, Kevin McHale, Tom Chambers, Dirk "The Ugly German" Nowitski, Bobby Jones. Probably missed a few. Some finished up in the early 1970's like Jerry West, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBuschere, Jerry Lucas, etc.

[dal4018]

I'll say 1970s-Present.

Besides Bird and Maravich

Bill Walton, as SH said John Stockton, Rick Barry, Kevin McHale, Tom Chambers, Dirk "The Ugly German" Nowitski, Bobby Jones. Probably missed a few. Some finished up in the early 1970's like Jerry West, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBuschere, Jerry Lucas, etc.

How about the 40s starting with GEORGE MIKAN!!!!

[Gil Dobie]

Besides Bird and Maravich

Bill Walton, as SH said John Stockton, Rick Barry, Kevin McHale, Tom Chambers, Dirk "The Ugly German" Nowitski, Bobby Jones. Probably missed a few. Some finished up in the early 1970's like Jerry West, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBuschere, Jerry Lucas, etc.

How about the 40s starting with GEORGE MIKAN!!!!

George was a great guy. When I had T-Wolves season tickets, he would sit in the front row at the end of the court, a few seats over was Kirby Puckett. Behind the visitors bench was Warren Moon, Darin Nelson and other Vikings. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis at half-court, usually with the person singing the National Anthem. I asked him one time if he had all his championship rings. He said his wife took them all and made one ring, which he kindly showed it to me.

Ton of White stars in the 1950's. Lakers had Mikan, Jumpin Jim Pollard, Vern Mikkelson, Slater Martin. There was Bob Cousy, Bob Pettit, Clyde Lovelette, Bob Davis, Paul Arizin, and a few more I would have to look up.

[dal4018]

How about the 40s starting with GEORGE MIKAN!!!!

George was a great guy. When I had T-Wolves season tickets, he would sit in the front row at the end of the court, a few seats over was Kirby Puckett. Behind the visitors bench was Warren Moon, Darin Nelson and other Vikings. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis at half-court, usually with the person singing the National Anthem. I asked him one time if he had all his championship rings. He said his wife took them all and made one ring, which he kindly showed it to me.

Ton of White stars in the 1950's. Lakers had Mikan, Jumpin Jim Pollard, Vern Mikkelson, Slater Martin. There was Bob Cousy, Bob Pettit, Clyde Lovelette, Bob Davis, Paul Arizin, and a few more I would have to look up.

Johnny "Red" Kerr.Arizin is the father of the modern NBA jumpshooter.