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93henfan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Hope it works out for you, Cid.

Also, cuts to security contractors at diplomatic facilities. BENGHAZI!!!!



http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... et-reports
Ivy will have to pay for the crabs this year, as CID and I will be unemployed, according to that article. :lol:

Only problem is, Mitch McConnell already went on the evening news tonight and said he won't support it. Booyah.
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But after 9-11 it was floated that consular work should move from State to DHS. That's still a possibility, and to be honest there are logical arguments for it. We'd still have to be accredited by host governments but whether we are State or DHS shouldn't affect our consular immunities.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Hope it works out for you, Cid.

Also, cuts to security contractors at diplomatic facilities. BENGHAZI!!!!
The Trump administration is proposing a 37 percent spending cut for the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), according to multiple reports.

U.S. officials say the suggested decrease would likely require laying off employees, including security contractors at diplomatic facilities overseas, The Associated Press said Tuesday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... et-reports
I'll have to look and maybe I'm thinking of something else but don't Marines make up the majority of Security at diplomatic facilities?


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Hope it works out for you, Cid.

Also, cuts to security contractors at diplomatic facilities. BENGHAZI!!!!
The Trump administration is proposing a 37 percent spending cut for the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), according to multiple reports.

U.S. officials say the suggested decrease would likely require laying off employees, including security contractors at diplomatic facilities overseas, The Associated Press said Tuesday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... et-reports
As I've said before-

DoS gets a blanket budget. Congress does not involve itself with line items.

So when people say, "Congress cut security for the State Department"...

...they are telling you the worst kind of lie - one that depends on you being willfully ignorant, because it needs you to not do simple research in order to stick around the way it has- and these "U.S. Officials" referred to in your link are bureaucrats fighting for their money, and they are full of sh1t.

DoS asks for $200

Congress gives DoS $150

It is DoS's responsibility to allocate those funds using common sense priorities. Management at DoS is where the buck stops on this.

If we don't have enough money for diplomatic security programs, and if security is a priority then you fund DS FIRST, and then money to advocate for women's rights in Bangladesh SECOND.

Furthermore- if things truly get tight at DoS, I can name about 20 US Consulates worldwide that can be closed because they are redundant, and throwbacks to a day when diplomats could open them in places they wanted to serve

SPOILER ALERT- we have SIX consulates in France.

Bordeaux, Lyon, Marseilles, Rennes, Strasbourg, and Toulouse.

We could close three of them with zero effect on the rest of the mission. There's your money to double the number of DS agents in every single high threat post in the world AND not rely on contractors.

But keep on being ignorant, Skelly.... lefty politicians are counting on it


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CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Hope it works out for you, Cid.

Also, cuts to security contractors at diplomatic facilities. BENGHAZI!!!!



http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... et-reports
As I've said before-

DoS gets a blanket budget. Congress does not involve itself with line items.

So when people say, "Congress cut security for the State Department"...

...they are telling you the worst kind of lie - one that depends on you being willfully ignorant, because it needs you to not do simple research in order to stick around the way it has- and these "U.S. Officials" referred to in your link are bureaucrats fighting for their money, and they are full of sh1t.

DoS asks for $200

Congress gives DoS $150

It is DoS's responsibility to allocate those funds using common sense priorities. Management at DoS is where the buck stops on this.

If we don't have enough money for diplomatic security programs, and if security is a priority then you fund DS FIRST, and then money to advocate for women's rights in Bangladesh SECOND.

Furthermore- if things truly get tight at DoS, I can name about 20 US Consulates worldwide that can be closed because they are redundant, and throwbacks to a day when diplomats could open them in places they wanted to serve

SPOILER ALERT- we have SIX consulates in France.

Bordeaux, Lyon, Marseilles, Rennes, Strasbourg, and Toulouse.

We could close three of them with zero effect on the rest of the mission. There's your money to double the number of DS agents in every single high threat post in the world AND not rely on contractors.

But keep on being ignorant, Skelly.... lefty politicians are counting on it


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93henfan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
As I've said before-

DoS gets a blanket budget. Congress does not involve itself with line items.

So when people say, "Congress cut security for the State Department"...

...they are telling you the worst kind of lie - one that depends on you being willfully ignorant, because it needs you to not do simple research in order to stick around the way it has- and these "U.S. Officials" referred to in your link are bureaucrats fighting for their money, and they are full of sh1t.

DoS asks for $200

Congress gives DoS $150

It is DoS's responsibility to allocate those funds using common sense priorities. Management at DoS is where the buck stops on this.

If we don't have enough money for diplomatic security programs, and if security is a priority then you fund DS FIRST, and then money to advocate for women's rights in Bangladesh SECOND.

Furthermore- if things truly get tight at DoS, I can name about 20 US Consulates worldwide that can be closed because they are redundant, and throwbacks to a day when diplomats could open them in places they wanted to serve

SPOILER ALERT- we have SIX consulates in France.

Bordeaux, Lyon, Marseilles, Rennes, Strasbourg, and Toulouse.

We could close three of them with zero effect on the rest of the mission. There's your money to double the number of DS agents in every single high threat post in the world AND not rely on contractors.

But keep on being ignorant, Skelly.... lefty politicians are counting on it


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On a completely related manner, 14 days until the Congress "Ignore The Debt Ceiling Because An Election Is Coming" suspension expires, and the US Treasury will invoke 'extraordinary measures' to pay our creditors ...
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BDKJMU wrote:
So what. McCain got a lower percent of the vote than Trump did. As did Dole. As did both HW Bush and Clinton in 92'. In Of the elections I've been eligible to vote in, of the 14 conk/donk candidates, only 3 have exceeded 50% of the vote.
52.9% Obama 08'
51.1% Obama 12'
50.7% Bush 04'
49.2% Clinton 96'
48.4 Gore 00'
48.3% Kerry 04'
48% Clinton 16'
47.9 Bush 00'
47.2% Romney 12'
45.9% Trump 16'
45.7% McCain 08'
43% Clinton 92'
40.7% Dole 96'
37.5% Bush 92'
I think that when you look at the 92 election you have to take the fact that there was an unusually strong third party candidate in the race (Perot) into account. If you look at winner in the list you posted Trump won with the second lowest percentage of the popular vote and the lowest percentage was associated with the year in which we had that unusually strong third party candidate.

The point is that what happened this year with Trump appears to have been much more a matter of a problem with the Democratic Party candidate that an increase in support for the Republican Party.

If he'd have been running against Obama as Romney and McCain did, he'd have gotten killed. Construing this as Trump coming in and improving Republican prospects is a mistake. They'd have had a bigger win with Kasich or Rubio for sure and probably with C r u z.
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