Senate passes Res. J34

[kalm]

We are via our elected officials.

Have you called, emailed, written your Congress people?

I have indeed...
Just like Minnesota today passed a counter measure
Washington will vote on a counter measure in exactly 45 days

WC(b) pols are feisty these days...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

"Manipulate what you see" and "Sell it all".... that's the way it is now, isn't it? All my pop up ads are recent searches, keywords on this site, etc... Maybe there's a way to block it, but I'm lazy and stupid when it comes to internet security, like most people. I'm not saying we should allow more, but this seems like old news.

How about this invasion of privacy? If a lender pulls your credit report because you're applying for a loan (or pre-approval) the credit bureaus can sell the information that you've had your credit pulled by a lender to other lenders. So Wells Fargo knows to call you about a mortgage because you're shopping with your bank or lender. I still can't believe that one is allowed, but I know for a fact it is.

You still have ads on this site 89? I shut those off months ago...I thought. This site should be ad free now?

Tapatalk does their own ad shit but the site itself shouldn't be hitting you.

[89Hen]

You still have ads on this site 89? I shut those off months ago...I thought. This site should be ad free now?

Tapatalk does their own ad shit but the site itself shouldn't be hitting you.

None here.

[CAA Flagship]

"Manipulate what you see" and "Sell it all".... that's the way it is now, isn't it? All my pop up ads are recent searches, keywords on this site, etc... Maybe there's a way to block it, but I'm lazy and stupid when it comes to internet security, like most people. I'm not saying we should allow more, but this seems like old news.

How about this invasion of privacy? If a lender pulls your credit report because you're applying for a loan (or pre-approval) the credit bureaus can sell the information that you've had your credit pulled by a lender to other lenders. So Wells Fargo knows to call you about a mortgage because you're shopping with your bank or lender. I still can't believe that one is allowed, but I know for a fact it is.

You still have ads on this site 89? I shut those off months ago...I thought. This site should be ad free now?

Tapatalk does their own ad shit but the site itself shouldn't be hitting you.

Now we know why 93 hasn't posted in a while. The Russian Bride ads have stopped.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

http://www.distractify.com/trending/201 ... gress-data

The problem with that is if anyone in congress wants to search for anything embarrassing and so forth they go to the press pool areas and do it there....you know...research.

I'd love to see any of these fucks doing this shit get owned hard on this.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You still have ads on this site 89? I shut those off months ago...I thought. This site should be ad free now?

Tapatalk does their own ad shit but the site itself shouldn't be hitting you.

None here.

Good, you had me worried there for a minute.

[Chizzang]

Well here we are...
Day one of J34 and Verizon is already automatically installing spyware into it's new phones

[CID1990]

Well here we are...
Day one of J34 and Verizon is already automatically installing spyware into it's new phones

Why any moron would go with Verizon's proprietary bullshart phones is a mystery to me

That's one thing I love about living overseas.... go into a quickie mart, buy a SIM card, recharge it with scratch off cards

In South Africa I was known to a cellphone company as some customer named "fvck you"

[AZGrizFan]

From today's WSJ:

Perhaps you’ve read that Congress voted to empower cable providers to collect your personal information and sell it, unraveling “landmark” privacy protections from the Federal Communications Commission. The partisans and reporters pumping this claim are—let’s be kind—uninformed, so allow us to add a few facts.

The House voted this week to rescind an Obama Administration regulation requiring that cable customers “opt in” to allow data mining of their preferences, which allows companies to feature targeted ads or improve service. The rule passed in a partisan FCC vote last year but never took effect. This belies the idea that Comcast and other invented villains will have some “new freedom” to auction off your data. President Trump is expected to sign the bill, which already passed the Senate. The result will be . . . the status quo.

The FCC didn’t roll out these rules in response to gross privacy invasions. The agency lacked jurisdiction until 2015 when it snatched authority from the Federal Trade Commission by reclassifying the internet as a public utility. The FTC had punished bad actors in privacy and data security for years, with more than 150 enforcement actions.


One best privacy practice is offering customers the choice to “opt out”—most consumers are willing to exchange their viewing habits for more personalized experiences, and the Rand Pauls of the world can elude collection. Cable customers have this option now. For sensitive information like Social Security numbers, consumers have to opt in. This framework protected privacy while allowing innovation.

The FCC ditched this approach and promulgated a rule that, curiously, did not apply to companies like Google or Amazon, whose business model includes monetizing massive data collection—what panda videos you watch or which gardening tools you buy. The rule was designed to give an edge to Twitter and friends in online advertising, a field already dominated by Silicon Valley.

The crew pushing the rule say cable companies deserve scrutiny because it is easy to change websites but hard to change internet-service providers. The reality is the reverse: The average internet user connects through six devices, according to a paper last year from Georgia Tech, and moves across locations and networks. But which search engine do you use, whether on your home laptop or iPhone at work? Probably Google. Plus: Encryption and other technology will soon shield some 70% of the internet from service providers.

What this week’s tumult means for your privacy online is nothing. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai and FTC Chairwoman Maureen Ohlhausen issued a joint statement saying they’d work together to build a “comprehensive and consistent framework” for privacy that doesn’t favor some tech companies over others. The interim is governed by FCC guidelines that have been in place for years.

These details haven’t stopped headlines like “How the Republicans Sold Your Privacy to Internet Providers.” That one ran atop a piece by President Obama’s FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, who continues to shore up his legacy as a partisan. The misinformation campaign is an attempt to bully Republicans and Chairman Pai out of reversing eight years of capricious regulation. Both deserve credit for not buckling amid the phony meltdown.

Chizzy....

[CAA Flagship]

Chizzy....

[Ivytalk]

Chizzy....

Journal 1, Smug Prick 0

[Chizzang]

Firstly it's an OPINION PIECE..
Not required to contain any factual information
Secondly why is the article not linked ..?

LINK..?

Third:
There are already two articles refuting this opinion article

Stand by for FACTS
and BTW: I'm going to start posting Opinion pieces

[Chizzang]

Okay you rotten bastards...
After burning some midnight oil on this little conundrum, we have a bit of an issue
and a complete reading of J34 some parts I didn't understand however

Firstly:
There's is some truth to the rebuttal article posted by AZ (which is actually a mixed blessing)
In that it isn't as bad as projected by the early reports - which is good news
but bad in that it shows again how much BAD reporting there is out there

Secondly:
J34 does give Comcast the right to sell your data (mostly true) yes
But also true no differently than Google has had for almost 15 years

Most states will address this through referendums adding "Opt Out" clauses to citizens check lists
But it requires that each state address this individually See: Minnesota already and Washington in June

[Ibanez]

Okay you rotten bastards...
After burning some midnight oil on this little conundrum, we have a bit of an issue
and a complete reading of J34 some parts I didn't understand however

Firstly:
There's is some truth to the rebuttal article posted by AZ (which is actually a mixed blessing)
In that it isn't as bad as projected by the early reports - which is good news
but bad in that it shows again how much BAD reporting there is out there

Secondly:
J34 does give Comcast the right to sell your data (mostly true) yes
But also true no differently than Google has had for almost 15 years

Most states will address this through referendums adding "Opt Out" clauses to citizens check lists
But it requires that each state address this individually See: Minnesota already and Washington in June

So the sky isn't falling?

[AZGrizFan]

Okay you rotten bastards...
After burning some midnight oil on this little conundrum, we have a bit of an issue
and a complete reading of J34 some parts I didn't understand however

Firstly:
There's is some truth to the rebuttal article posted by AZ (which is actually a mixed blessing)
In that it isn't as bad as projected by the early reports - which is good news
but bad in that it shows again how much BAD reporting there is out there

Secondly:
J34 does give Comcast the right to sell your data (mostly true) yes
But also true no differently than Google has had for almost 15 years

Most states will address this through referendums adding "Opt Out" clauses to citizens check lists
But it requires that each state address this individually See: Minnesota already and Washington in June

AND LET THE BACKPEDALLING COMMENCE!!

[Chizzang]

Okay you rotten bastards...
After burning some midnight oil on this little conundrum, we have a bit of an issue
and a complete reading of J34 some parts I didn't understand however

Firstly:
There's is some truth to the rebuttal article posted by AZ (which is actually a mixed blessing)
In that it isn't as bad as projected by the early reports - which is good news
but bad in that it shows again how much BAD reporting there is out there

Secondly:
J34 does give Comcast the right to sell your data (mostly true) yes
But also true no differently than Google has had for almost 15 years

Most states will address this through referendums adding "Opt Out" clauses to citizens check lists
But it requires that each state address this individually See: Minnesota already and Washington in June

So the sky isn't falling?

Well kinda...
it's bad legislation
to over turn mediocre legislation
and replace it with worse legislation

[HI54UNI]

So the sky isn't falling?

Well kinda...
it's bad legislation
to over turn mediocre legislation
and replace it with worse legislation

In other words, business as usual for our federal government.

[Chizzang]

Okay you rotten bastards...
After burning some midnight oil on this little conundrum, we have a bit of an issue
and a complete reading of J34 some parts I didn't understand however

Firstly:
There's is some truth to the rebuttal article posted by AZ (which is actually a mixed blessing)
In that it isn't as bad as projected by the early reports - which is good news
but bad in that it shows again how much BAD reporting there is out there

Secondly:
J34 does give Comcast the right to sell your data (mostly true) yes
But also true no differently than Google has had for almost 15 years

Most states will address this through referendums adding "Opt Out" clauses to citizens check lists
But it requires that each state address this individually See: Minnesota already and Washington in June

AND LET THE BACKPEDALLING COMMENCE!!

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

In this particular case J34
everybody (both sides of the isle) are reporting half truths
and it's hard to actually get the truth out of these bastards
especially when the press is saddled up hard left hard right

In this case I admit I was more easily fooled by what I was predisposed to believe

It's a convoluted bread crumb trail of B.S. and pretty bad legislation all the way around

[CID1990]

AND LET THE BACKPEDALLING COMMENCE!!

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

In this particular case J34
everybody (both sides of the isle) are reporting half truths
and it's had to actually get the truth out of these bastards

It's a convoluted bread crumb trail of B.S. and pretty bad legislation all the way around

Wanna know my secret?

I don't chime in on stuff I don't know anything about

Unless I'm trolling (see NASCAR thread)

[Skjellyfetti]

And, incredibly unpopular.

80% of Democrats favored veto
69% of Independets favored veto
75% of Republicans favored veto

[Chizzang]

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

In this particular case J34
everybody (both sides of the isle) are reporting half truths
and it's had to actually get the truth out of these bastards

It's a convoluted bread crumb trail of B.S. and pretty bad legislation all the way around

Wanna know my secret?

I don't chime in on stuff I don't know anything about

Unless I'm trolling (see NASCAR thread)

Good advice ^
Except I come from the Broadband Build-out of the 90's
I worked for a company owned by Cisco / Cisco the company that wrote Internet protocol

I saw the corruption right in front of my face
I saw tax dollars (government funds) that were awarded as build-out money
Go towards the purchasing of smaller competitive companies

I feel like a Vietnam Vet - I saw some sh!t man - it was not pretty

[AZGrizFan]

AND LET THE BACKPEDALLING COMMENCE!!

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

In this particular case J34
everybody (both sides of the isle) are reporting half truths
and it's hard to actually get the truth out of these bastards
especially when the press is saddled up hard left hard right

In this case I admit I was more easily fooled by what I was predisposed to believe

It's a convoluted bread crumb trail of B.S. and pretty bad legislation all the way around

Nowhere in your post I quoted do I see the words, "OK you bastards, I was wrong".

[Ibanez]

Wanna know my secret?

I don't chime in on stuff I don't know anything about

Unless I'm trolling (see NASCAR thread)

Good advice ^
Except I come from the Broadband Build-out of the 90's
I worked for a company owned by Cisco / Cisco the company that wrote Internet protocol

I saw the corruption right in front of my face
I saw tax dollars (government funds) that were awarded as build-out money
Go towards the purchasing of smaller competitive companies

I feel like a Vietnam Vet - I saw some sh!t man - it was not pretty

I feel the same way about government procurement.

[89Hen]

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

CCU Catfish will still say it's a backpedal.

[Ibanez]

I don't back pedal
I admit when I'm wrong unlike 95% of the posters on this forum

CCU Catfish will still say it's a backpedal.

No I won't. There's a huge difference between saying your wrong and trying to back out of our claim with BS.

At least there is to me.