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I'm not butt hurt..Its actually yourself who's acting butthurt..I could care less what some lib Brit windbag like Koppel thinks.. :lol: And what Koppel was referring too, the 'conservative media' mostly isn't opinion masquerading as news. Its mostly biased opinion masquerading as biased opinion- And MOST people can see that. What he wasn't referring to was his fellow mainstream news media liberal news brethren operating under under the thinly veiled disguise of non biased/non opinionated 'news'.

Koppel talked about conservative media being bad for America, yet what was bad for America was the pre wide spread cable news/pre internet Big 3 Networks & liberal print media having a near stranglehold for decades on news delivery. I'm sure he's probaly rankled at that...
Ted Koppel is now a "Brit"?

Well that settles it then...,..


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:suspicious: You wouldn't call a person born in England a 'Brti'?



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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Yeah, Ted 'conservative media is bad for America' Koppel is pretty damn non biased. :roll: Talk about a dumb comment..
Wasn't he talking about all media? CNN made it sound like he was zeroing in on Hannity when he wasn't.
Yes he was and he has been for quite sometime. Koppel isn't perfect but I remember Nightline back in the day being pretty damned straight forward journalism, and very non-biased...sometimes even to to a fault. Koppel was similar to Tim Russert in this regard.
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
Ted Koppel is now a "Brit"?

Well that settles it then...,..


:rofl:
:suspicious: You wouldn't call a person born in England a 'Brti'?



He did move here early in his life.
I didn't know he was born and lived there until 13. :oops:

Still not exactly the first descriptor I would use. Went high school and college here, zero accent...
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :suspicious: You wouldn't call a person born in England a 'Brti'?



He did move here early in his life.
I didn't know he was born and lived there until 13. :oops:

Still not exactly the first descriptor I would use. Went high school and college here, zero accent...
I'm only busting your ball. :mrgreen: I wouldn't call someone that has lived 83% of their life in the US and is a naturalized US citizen a Brit.
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
I didn't know he was born and lived there until 13. :oops:

Still not exactly the first descriptor I would use. Went high school and college here, zero accent...
I'm only busting your ball. :mrgreen: I wouldn't call someone that has lived 83% of their life in the US and is a naturalized US citizen a Brit.
Well conks think a guy who was born in Hawaii is Kenyan so...
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I'm only busting your ball. :mrgreen: I wouldn't call someone that has lived 83% of their life in the US and is a naturalized US citizen a Brit.
Well conks think a guy who was born in Hawaii is Kenyan so...
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I'm only busting your ball. :mrgreen: I wouldn't call someone that has lived 83% of their life in the US and is a naturalized US citizen a Brit.
Well conks think a guy who was born in Hawaii is Kenyan so...
Well I'm going to nitpick here (for no constructive reason, of course)

Because nationality law and practice fascinates me

Technically speaking, Obama IS entitled to Kenyan citizenship due to being born to a Kenyan father. Kenyan citizenship is automatic, and dual citizenship is permitted.

So Obama is, in fact, an unadjudicated citizen of Kenya. The place of his birth is immaterial.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I'm only busting your ball. :mrgreen: I wouldn't call someone that has lived 83% of their life in the US and is a naturalized US citizen a Brit.
Well conks think a guy who was born in Hawaii is Kenyan so...
Yeah, if a guy had a father from Kenya, spent a good chunk of his childhood in Kenya, and had his literary agent say in his book intro he was from Kenya
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there's zero reason for any reasonable person to suspect the possibility exists he might have been born in Kenya.. :roll:
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BDKJMU wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Well conks think a guy who was born in Hawaii is Kenyan so...
Yeah, if a guy had a father from Kenya, spent a good chunk of his childhood in Kenya, and had his literary agent say in his book intro he was from Kenya
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there's zero reason for any reasonable person to suspect the possibility exists he might have been born in Kenya.. :roll:
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For the record, I believe he was born in Hawaii
Well, if his agent said so then that's good enough for me.


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The United States will "hold to account" any government that commits atrocities against innocent people, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Monday, as key US allies met to work out a common stance on Syria.

Tillerson spoke at an Italian war memorial before a meeting of foreign ministers from the G7 industrialized nations, which was dominated by the diplomatic fallout from the unexpected US missile strike on a Syrian airbase last week.

"We rededicate ourselves to holding to account any and all who commit crimes against the innocents anywhere in the world," Tillerson said in a short statement commemorating a 1944 German Nazi massacre in Sant'Anna di Stazzema.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/ ... index.html


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This was the one tidbit of daylight I thought might exist between Trump and Clinton.

Looks like nope
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CID1990 wrote:This was the one tidbit of daylight I thought might exist between Trump and Clinton.

Looks like nope
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Democrats eating their young... :ohno:
Top Democrats are not pleased that Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard pushed the U.S. to collect and release evidence from the scene of the chemical attack in Syria.

Gabbard visited Syria and met with President Bashar al-Assad in January and has been consistently cautious about American involvement in the Middle Eastern county. The Hawaii congresswoman said in a statement that the airstrikes on Syria were “short-sighted and will lead to more dead civilians, more refugees, the strengthening of al-Qaida and other terrorists, and a possible nuclear war between the United States and Russia.”



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Skjellyfetti wrote:Team America is back!!

Comin' to save the motherfuckin' day!
The United States will "hold to account" any government that commits atrocities against innocent people, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Monday, as key US allies met to work out a common stance on Syria.

Tillerson spoke at an Italian war memorial before a meeting of foreign ministers from the G7 industrialized nations, which was dominated by the diplomatic fallout from the unexpected US missile strike on a Syrian airbase last week.

"We rededicate ourselves to holding to account any and all who commit crimes against the innocents anywhere in the world," Tillerson said in a short statement commemorating a 1944 German Nazi massacre in Sant'Anna di Stazzema.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/ ... index.html


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Ibanez wrote:Democrats eating their young... :ohno:
Top Democrats are not pleased that Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard pushed the U.S. to collect and release evidence from the scene of the chemical attack in Syria.

Gabbard visited Syria and met with President Bashar al-Assad in January and has been consistently cautious about American involvement in the Middle Eastern county. The Hawaii congresswoman said in a statement that the airstrikes on Syria were “short-sighted and will lead to more dead civilians, more refugees, the strengthening of al-Qaida and other terrorists, and a possible nuclear war between the United States and Russia.”



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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Democrats eating their young... :ohno:
If a guy like Howard Dean says she's wrong you know she's right.

:lol:

He has definitely embraced the political game. :ohno:
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
Judging by Skelly's post they might want to refocus on the blowing up part and less on the bells and whistles...
As stated already, tomahawks aren't used to destroy something like an airfield. You send it against a target like a command post or something moving. Different munitions for different targets.


Am it the only that thinks we ought to stop WARNING people we're going to attack? What's the point? Symbolism? **** that. It's war and it's messy. If you don't want a surgical strike against your towers, don't launch chemical weapons or murder civilians.


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mrklean wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Yeah, however Military experience doesn't equate to military expertise. You think a 15W is an expert in combat engineering?


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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: It's war. Or at least a preclude to war. Am I the only person here that believes in total war? War is nasty, bloody and horrible. Execute it quickly and bring about a quick and decisive end. We didn't warn the Brits, Union/confederates, Mexicans, Spanish, Germans before attacking. We didn't warn Adolf we're 1 hr from landing in Normandy. This pussy attitude is why we're in a quagmire. If we don't want to hit hit Russians, we don't fire until we know they're clear.


Just my opinion. I'm not going warn you before i punch you in the throat. I'm just going to do it.


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It's a civil war. Do we really want to get into an out-and-out conflict with the Russians over that?
Its not a civil war, it government killing civilians.
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Ibanez wrote:Democrats eating their young... :ohno:
Top Democrats are not pleased that Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard pushed the U.S. to collect and release evidence from the scene of the chemical attack in Syria.

Gabbard visited Syria and met with President Bashar al-Assad in January and has been consistently cautious about American involvement in the Middle Eastern county. The Hawaii congresswoman said in a statement that the airstrikes on Syria were “short-sighted and will lead to more dead civilians, more refugees, the strengthening of al-Qaida and other terrorists, and a possible nuclear war between the United States and Russia.”



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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Huh? :lol:
Did you forget you already replied?

Or did it become too nuanced for you in the second reading?

You can't think parts of the document are sacrosanct and other parts are not. The Constitution and the rule of law are similar in that weakening of just one aspect can bring down the whole framework. And you can argue all you want, but this isn't a recent phenomenon- it has been going on for a very long time (as Skelly pointed out... reinforcing my point that we are at the bottom of the slope, not the top)- and the lackadaisical attitude a good portion of Americans (both left and right) display towards the document is what gets us to places like where we are now: A Trump/Clinton with zero checks on warmaking powers. Or no checks on an Obama sending a drone after a USC overseas. Or take your pick of any number of ways the federal government has assumed powers not enumerated in the document (which are clearly stated to be in the purview of the states)


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