MOAB (not the one in Utah)

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:09 am

We just dropped one for the first time ever in combat on an ISIS tunnel complex in AFG.

21,600 lbs of MAGA

Post by **bandl** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:27 am

Which is it
Mother Of All Bombs?
or
Manly Oiled Anal Beads?

Rob Iola · Post by **Rob Iola** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:44 am

Daisy cutter?

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:53 am

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:54 am

93henfan wrote:We just dropped one for the first time ever in combat on an ISIS tunnel complex in AFG.

21,600 lbs of MAGA

Sweet. How many virgins are needed?

Post by **bandl** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:54 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:We just dropped one for the first time ever in combat on an ISIS tunnel complex in AFG.

21,600 lbs of MAGA
Sweet. How many virgins are needed?

Just MrT and GATW

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:08 am

bandl wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Sweet. How many virgins are needed?
Just MrT and GATW

I'm thinking Someone Holier should cover it.

Post by **andy7171** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:10 am

bandl wrote:Which is it
Mother Of All Bombs?
or
Manly Oiled Anal Beads?

Massive Ordnance Air Blast

Post by **ASUG8** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:11 am

Seems like an expensive way to increase local real estate prices in the desert. I guess they don't have that pesky mountain to look at anymore.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:25 am

Is it more impressive than the Jericho system? Who built it, Stark or is this one of Justin Hammer's creations?

Post by **AshevilleApp** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:38 pm

It's big! Really big!!

CitadelGrad · Post by **CitadelGrad** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:39 pm

Dropping this bomb was just a way to grab headlines. The target was apparently a cave and tunnel system. This bomb is not the best way to attack that target type.

MOAB is not guided. You just kick it out of the back of a plane and let it free fall. Not exactly the best way to attack an underground target.

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:47 pm

CitadelGrad wrote:Dropping this bomb was just a way to grab headlines. The target was apparently a cave and tunnel system. This bomb is not the best way to attack that target type.

MOAB is not guided. You just kick it out of the back of a plane and let it free fall. Not exactly the best way to attack an underground target.

It's GPS guided, but I agree that a bunker buster munition might be a better choice. The MOAB might create some nice over-pressure and have some subterranean effects, but it's not going to be as good as something with a delay on the fuse.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:47 pm

It is YUGE!!

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:47 pm

phpBB [video]

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:01 pm

Rob Iola wrote:Daisy cutter?

Don't know if it is considered a daisy cutter, but it can't be the same bomb because this was the first time it was used.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:12 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
Rob Iola wrote:Daisy cutter?
Don't know if it is considered a daisy cutter, but it can't be the same bomb because this was the first time it was used.

It us essentially the same bomb, just newer

The daisy cutter was developed during Vietnam- you dropped it on top of one of those limestone mountains and it would chop the peak off, leaving a flat surface that could then be used as a LZ or a fire base.

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Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:38 pm

bandl wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Sweet. How many virgins are needed?
Just MrT and GATW

Post of the year..?
Certainly in the running

Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:53 pm

CitadelGrad wrote:Dropping this bomb was just a way to grab headlines. The target was apparently a cave and tunnel system. This bomb is not the best way to attack that target type.

MOAB is not guided. You just kick it out of the back of a plane and let it free fall. Not exactly the best way to attack an underground target.

You must be thinking of something different. This bomb is used for exactly this purpose and it's guided. The military might know what they are doing here.. The change in air pressure, as a result of the in air explosions, collapses and weakens buildings, caves, tunnels...

It's not built to penetrate. It's built to intimidate...shock and awe!

It's a good thing that bomb was ordered to Afghanistan during Obamas administration...he gets some of the blame....right?

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Post by **Ibanez** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:54 pm

CID1990 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote: Don't know if it is considered a daisy cutter, but it can't be the same bomb because this was the first time it was used.
It us essentially the same bomb, just newer

The daisy cutter was developed during Vietnam- you dropped it on top of one of those limestone mountains and it would chop the peak off, leaving a flat surface that could then be used as a LZ or a fire base.

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Exactly. This type of bombs is use to soften an area prior to some other type of deployment.

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Post by **93henfan** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:17 pm

As a person whose job it was to divvy out close air support and who has seen just about every common aircraft and artillery-deployed munition and incendiary used right in front of my own eyes on targets of my selection, I don't think anybody truly comprehends the scale of the MOAB.

Our biggies were Mk84s, which are 2,000 lb conventional air-dropped bombs. All I can say is, they are an effect to behold. The crater they leave is massive and they throw up a mini mushroom cloud.

And the MOAB is ten times as heavy. Ouch.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:54 pm

bandl wrote:Which is it
Mother Of All Bombs?
or
Manly Oiled Anal Beads?

Massive Ordnance Air Blast. Not that I knew that before I Googled it.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:58 pm

BTW the impression I'm getting is that this was basically an experiment.

Post by **93henfan** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:31 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the impression I'm getting is that this was basically an experiment.

The impression I'm getting is that we just lost a Green Beret to a bunch of camel jockeys hiding in and popping out of a tunnel complex and we just solved that problem. The MOAB has already been tested over a decade ago.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:41 pm

93henfan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the impression I'm getting is that this was basically an experiment.
The impression I'm getting is that we just lost a Green Beret to a bunch of camel jockeys hiding in and popping out of a tunnel complex and we just solved that problem. The MOAB has already been tested over a decade ago.

I doubt that we "solved that problem" entirely. Yes I know the weapon has been tested. But this was the first "real world" test. I am basing my opinion somewhat on watching some ex generals on TV talking about it and, unfortunately, I can't name any of them. But that's why I developed the impression that there was an experimental element to this. This was to some extent, I think, trying something out in a real situation.

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