Trump: Actually, on second thought, I don't think China is a currency manipulator

[93henfan]

Agree. Hillary would have been worse for America.

[Skjellyfetti]

Brown vs. Board of Education is an example.

Huh?

I get that some cases are still controversial like Roe v. Wade.

But, Brown v. Board?

[CID1990]

SCOTUS has, overall, been a moderating force. We risk losing that if Trump puts a nut on the court

I dunno. I think that many times the Supreme Court has been a radical force that has dramatically changed the society. Wickard v. Filburn is a huge example that opened the door to radical expansion of Federal power. Brown vs. Board of Education is an example. Roe Vs. Wade is an example. More recently Obergefell v. Hodges is an example. In those cases the Court removed questions from debate in the political realms and imposed the will of the Judicial oligarchy. You can agree or disagree with whether or not what the Court did such cases was right or wrong. But such actions do not represent a moderating force.

Once again - you miss the point (and proceed to squirt ass juice all over the board)

SCOTUS has almost always been a moderating force among the three branches

The court strikes down goofy legislation, executive overreach, and overzealous enforcement literally multiple times per session

I didn't say the court is moderating all the time - only that it is a moderating factor - and largely it is, given what the other two branches are continually doing

Jesus you're like that musclebound moron on Guardians of the Galaxy

SMFH

[Chizzang]

Lets just say I saw it as a hint of what was to come...

Chizzang, you'll grow up to be the Tom Hanks character in The Circle.

You are assuming that I'm going to grow up...
(bad assumption)

[BDKJMU]

It just goes to show that my cautious optimism on Trump was wrong:

There was no daylight between Trump and Clinton. None

(I held out hope he'd stick to his guns on NATO and the US being world police)

Maybe so foreign policy wise. But at least there's a big differnece with judges. We have Gorsuch instead of Garland.

And immigration enforcement. Irregardless of the wall, there has been a complete attitude change towards immigration enforcement both at the border and interior..

Still holding out hope for tax reform and revisiting the healthcare issue later this year or next year.

[Ivytalk]

SCOTUS has, overall, been a moderating force. We risk losing that if Trump puts a nut on the court

I dunno. I think that many times the Supreme Court has been a radical force that has dramatically changed the society. Wickard v. Filburn is a huge example that opened the door to radical expansion of Federal power. Brown vs. Board of Education is an example. Roe Vs. Wade is an example. More recently Obergefell v. Hodges is an example. In those cases the Court removed questions from debate in the political realms and imposed the will of the Judicial oligarchy. You can agree or disagree with whether or not what the Court did such cases was right or wrong. But such actions do not represent a moderating force.

Have you ever read a single one of those cases?

[Ivytalk]

Well, if he'd have really acted like he gave the impression that he was going to act like with China it would've been a disaster so I guess it's good that we're now seeing that he's not going to do that. At least not for now. I guess that's a silver lining. Of course we're also seeing that there is not an honest bone in the guy's body and that he just says crap out of his rectum when he thinks it's advantageous at the time. You know, as Fareed Zakaria noted, a complete bullshit artist (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... c101cb0e09). Not that any person with above a 60 IQ shouldn't have known that already.

Also there is the problem is that he's still an emotionally immature and unstable individual and that could cause huge problems at any time.

I agree that Fareed Zakaria is a complete bullshit artist.

[Ivytalk]

That's true- a conservative leaning court would be good

I worry though that he'll appoint a hardass now that the filibuster is gone. And a hard right court (as well as a hard left court) erodes respect for the institution. It could also push everyone further out left or right

SCOTUS has, overall, been a moderating force. We risk losing that if Trump puts a nut on the court


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Anyone who favors corporate personhood is a nut.

And you have a nut. So we're even.

[JohnStOnge]

Brown vs. Board of Education is an example.

Huh?

I get that some cases are still controversial like Roe v. Wade.

But, Brown v. Board?

At the time Brown vs. Board of Education was rendered it was extremely controversial. It resulted in a LOT of social upheaval.

[JohnStOnge]

I dunno. I think that many times the Supreme Court has been a radical force that has dramatically changed the society. Wickard v. Filburn is a huge example that opened the door to radical expansion of Federal power. Brown vs. Board of Education is an example. Roe Vs. Wade is an example. More recently Obergefell v. Hodges is an example. In those cases the Court removed questions from debate in the political realms and imposed the will of the Judicial oligarchy. You can agree or disagree with whether or not what the Court did such cases was right or wrong. But such actions do not represent a moderating force.

Once again - you miss the point (and proceed to squirt ass juice all over the board)

SCOTUS has almost always been a moderating force among the three branches

The court strikes down goofy legislation, executive overreach, and overzealous enforcement literally multiple times per session

I didn't say the court is moderating all the time - only that it is a moderating factor - and largely it is, given what the other two branches are continually doing

Jesus you're like that musclebound moron on Guardians of the Galaxy

SMFH

I just completely disagree. I think if that you had to pick one branch of government that has been at the center of radical social change it is the Judiciary. Well, I guess nobody can beat what the Executive Branch did in facilitating the Civil War. But other than that. I don't think that, on balance, the Court has been a "moderating" influence at all.

[CID1990]

Once again - you miss the point (and proceed to squirt ass juice all over the board)

SCOTUS has almost always been a moderating force among the three branches

The court strikes down goofy legislation, executive overreach, and overzealous enforcement literally multiple times per session

I didn't say the court is moderating all the time - only that it is a moderating factor - and largely it is, given what the other two branches are continually doing

Jesus you're like that musclebound moron on Guardians of the Galaxy

SMFH

I just completely disagree. I think if that you had to pick one branch of government that has been at the center of radical social change it is the Judiciary. Well, I guess nobody can beat what the Executive Branch did in facilitating the Civil War. But other than that. I don't think that, on balance, the Court has been a "moderating" influence at all.

There are lots of things that you think that happen to be off the reservation

[BDKJMU]

Brown vs. Board of Education is an example.

Huh?

I get that some cases are still controversial like Roe v. Wade.

But, Brown v. Board?

Brown v Board had positive impacts. But it had one big negative one- the nutty idea of foced busing.

[Skjellyfetti]

[Chizzang]

The running joke that is our president...

[Skjellyfetti]

Trump gives some context for his flip flop on NATO.

I was on Wolf Blitzer, very fair interview, the first time I was ever asked about NATO, because I wasn't in government. People don't go around asking about NATO if I'm building a building in Manhattan, right? So they asked me, Wolf ... asked me about NATO, and I said two things. NATO's obsolete — not knowing much about NATO, now I know a lot about NATO — NATO is obsolete, and I said, "And the reason it's obsolete is because of the fact they don't focus on terrorism."

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Trump gives some context for his flip flop on NATO.

I was on Wolf Blitzer, very fair interview, the first time I was ever asked about NATO, because I wasn't in government. People don't go around asking about NATO if I'm building a building in Manhattan, right? So they asked me, Wolf ... asked me about NATO, and I said two things. NATO's obsolete — not knowing much about NATO, now I know a lot about NATO — NATO is obsolete, and I said, "And the reason it's obsolete is because of the fact they don't focus on terrorism."

I know illegal immigrants that construct better sentences in English than Trump.

[Ibanez]

Trump gives some context for his flip flop on NATO.

I know illegal immigrants that construct better sentences in English than Trump.

My two year old does. She's clearer and more direct.


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I know illegal immigrants that construct better sentences in English than Trump.

My two year old does. She's clearer and more direct.


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This one's a doozy (in response to being asked how a meeting with Elijah Cummings went):

Well he said, you’ll be the greatest president in the history of, but you know what, I’ll take that also, but that you could be. But he said, will be the greatest president but I would also accept the other. In other words, if you do your job, but I accept that. Then I watched him interviewed and it was like he never even was here. It’s incredible. I watched him interviewed a week later and it’s like he was never in my office. And you can even say that.

[Ibanez]

My two year old does. She's clearer and more direct.


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This one's a doozy (in response to being asked how a meeting with Elijah Cummings went):

Well he said, you’ll be the greatest president in the history of, but you know what, I’ll take that also, but that you could be. But he said, will be the greatest president but I would also accept the other. In other words, if you do your job, but I accept that. Then I watched him interviewed and it was like he never even was here. It’s incredible. I watched him interviewed a week later and it’s like he was never in my office. And you can even say that.

I can't listen to him as it makes my ears hurt.

You know, your illegal immigrant comment is surprising considering your political affiliation. Not all illegal immigrants have a poor command of the English language. Why would you make that assumption? Or are you just referring to the illegal Mexicans that come in? However, I get your point. He speaks poorly. So do many people that are citizens of this country. There are Germans, for instance, that speak better English than I (myself?).