...and Trump is bombing the shit out of ISIS.93henfan wrote:The impression I'm getting is that we just lost a Green Beret to a bunch of camel jockeys hiding in and popping out of a tunnel complex and we just solved that problem. The MOAB has already been tested over a decade ago.JohnStOnge wrote:BTW the impression I'm getting is that this was basically an experiment.
Actually, it is the same bomb I'm thinking of. Apparently, they have upgraded it to a guided bomb. The original was definitely not a guided weapon.Ibanez wrote:You must be thinking of something different. This bomb is used for exactly this purpose and it's guided. The military might know what they are doing here.. The change in air pressure, as a result of the in air explosions, collapses and weakens buildings, caves, tunnels...CitadelGrad wrote:Dropping this bomb was just a way to grab headlines. The target was apparently a cave and tunnel system. This bomb is not the best way to attack that target type.
MOAB is not guided. You just kick it out of the back of a plane and let it free fall. Not exactly the best way to attack an underground target.
It's not built to penetrate. It's built to intimidate...shock and awe!
It's a good thing that bomb was ordered to Afghanistan during Obamas administration...he gets some of the blame....right?
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It wir learry scale the sheet out of deal reader!HI54UNI wrote:This also sends a message to North Korea.
Slow down there cowboy. Dems fell all over themselves in praise of last week's missile strike and remember, this was all OK/Not OK when Obama was bombing them.SeattleGriz wrote:...and Trump is bombing the shit out of ISIS.93henfan wrote:
The impression I'm getting is that we just lost a Green Beret to a bunch of camel jockeys hiding in and popping out of a tunnel complex and we just solved that problem. The MOAB has already been tested over a decade ago.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-1 ... ans-russiaFor The Third Straight Month, The US Killed More Syrian Civilians Than Russia
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March was the deadliest month ever recorded by Airwars during the Coalition’s campaign in Iraq and Syria. This coincided with the greatest number of munitions dropped by the allies so far in the war. The high number of alleged incidents across both countries forced Airwars temporarily to pause its full vetting of Russian airstrikes in order to keep pace with the reported Coalition toll.
After a disastrous strike on March 17th claimed up to 230 lives in Mosul, media attention intensified – and the Coalition began reviewing its strike policies in the campaign there. However, civilians were also killed in record numbers across the border in the vicinity of Raqqa, Syria. Indeed it appears highly likely that the Coalition killed hundreds of civilians in Syria during March, with little press coverage. Neither the campaigns for Raqqa nor Mosul have finished – and Coalition proxies backed by US forces have yet to even begin fighting in Raqqa city itself.
For the third straight month the reported civilian toll of Russian airstrikes in Syria was surpassed by that of the Coalition in both Iraq and Syria. But this may change, as Moscow again ramps up its own air campaign – one that has already left thousands of civilians dead.
The month actually saw the greatest number of munitions dropped during the war so far. The declared active members of the Coalition (the US, UK, France, Belgium, Denmark, Australia – along with possibly Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE) dropped a total of 3,878 munitions on ISIL targets in March, according to figures published by US Air Force Central Command. This was a 13% increase over the previous month. So far this year, 10,918 munitions have been dropped on Iraq and Syria, with January, February and March each setting new records for munitions dropped. This represents a 59% rise on the number of munitions released during January – March 2016, suggesting that President Donald Trump may be following through with his election promise to “bomb the shit out of ISIS”.
Not really. You are going to need absolute control of the air before you can use it or you'll lose the aircraft.HI54UNI wrote:This also sends a message to North Korea.
I'm guessing they monitored the activity with special operators on scene as well as FLIR to get a count beforehand.CAA Flagship wrote:I'm amazed that after a bomb of this size hits, that "bodies" can be counted. I would think that many of them would have disintegrated. Maybe they count skulls?
The Daisy Cutter certainly wasn't guided, but if i'm not mistaken, this bomb has been guided since it's creation in 2002. Guidance and control were part of the original specs in 2002.CitadelGrad wrote:Actually, it is the same bomb I'm thinking of. Apparently, they have upgraded it to a guided bomb. The original was definitely not a guided weapon.Ibanez wrote: You must be thinking of something different. This bomb is used for exactly this purpose and it's guided. The military might know what they are doing here.. The change in air pressure, as a result of the in air explosions, collapses and weakens buildings, caves, tunnels...
It's not built to penetrate. It's built to intimidate...shock and awe!
It's a good thing that bomb was ordered to Afghanistan during Obamas administration...he gets some of the blame....right?
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All I know it last night, about 30+ goats slept w/o fear of rape.93henfan wrote:I'm guessing they monitored the activity with special operators on scene as well as FLIR to get a count beforehand.CAA Flagship wrote:I'm amazed that after a bomb of this size hits, that "bodies" can be counted. I would think that many of them would have disintegrated. Maybe they count skulls?
Ibanez wrote:All I know it last night, about 30+ goats slept w/o fear of rape.93henfan wrote:
I'm guessing they monitored the activity with special operators on scene as well as FLIR to get a count beforehand.
Yep- letting the commanders on the ground make the tactical decisions- not a bunch of pols and lawyers thousands of miles away in DC..VictorG wrote:This was a big success for trump. They released the bomb from the plane and it actually hit the ground before it was tied up in courts, rejected or not followed through by his own party, key personnel resigning or being investigated or he didn't change his mind.
Good. Let the generals general.VictorG wrote:Turns out, trump didn't have anything to do with it.....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04 ... s-say.html
BDKJMU wrote:Good. Let the generals general.VictorG wrote:Turns out, trump didn't have anything to do with it.....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04 ... s-say.html
BDKJMU wrote:Good. Let the generals general.VictorG wrote:Turns out, trump didn't have anything to do with it.....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04 ... s-say.html
Oh yeah. Just for that little outburst, it's now:kalm wrote:Slow down there cowboy. Dems fell all over themselves in praise of last week's missile strike and remember, this was all OK/Not OK when Obama was bombing them.SeattleGriz wrote:
...and Trump is bombing the shit out of ISIS.
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Trumps only getting warmed up...but yes he is starting to bomb the shit out of ISIS...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-1 ... ans-russiaFor The Third Straight Month, The US Killed More Syrian Civilians Than Russia
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As The Trump administration is flexing its military muscle, having stood up to Syria and its ally Russia, and while it’s now relishing in the news it has dropped the nation’s largest most-powerful non-nuclear bomb on a cave complex in Eastern Afghanistan, one critic was quick to point out one little-known fact. Wikileaks tweeted a simple but true statement concerning the origin of the cave complex the Americans are so proud to have reportedly destroyed. “Those tunnels the U.S is bombing in Afghanistan? They were built by the CIA,” Wikileaks tweeted.
VictorG wrote:This was a big success for trump. They released the bomb from the plane and it actually hit the ground before it was tied up in courts, rejected or not followed through by his own party, key personnel resigning or being investigated or he didn't change his mind.
kalm wrote:These may or may not be the exact same caves, but the larger point still stands.
This all reminds me of the Bill Hicks bit about the first Iraq War...
'What's that one do?'
'Says here it incinerates everthing cept their fillings'
'Cool'
As The Trump administration is flexing its military muscle, having stood up to Syria and its ally Russia, and while it’s now relishing in the news it has dropped the nation’s largest most-powerful non-nuclear bomb on a cave complex in Eastern Afghanistan, one critic was quick to point out one little-known fact. Wikileaks tweeted a simple but true statement concerning the origin of the cave complex the Americans are so proud to have reportedly destroyed. “Those tunnels the U.S is bombing in Afghanistan? They were built by the CIA,” Wikileaks tweeted.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghan-offic ... 44229.htmlKABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The number of militants killed in an attack by the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military has risen to 94, an Afghan official said Saturday.
Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, said the number of Islamic State group dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier. A Ministry of Defense official had said Friday the number of dead could rise as officials assessed the bomb site in Achin district.
"Fortunately there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack," Khogyani said.
