The worlds greatest negotiator...

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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
It remains really bad that a sufficient number of people voted for somebody like that to allow him to become President. It's a very negative statement with respect to the quality of the United States population. That guy should not have been able to get 10 percent of the vote.

And we've got a long way to go. I think it's still the case that he's mentally ill and has serious problems with impulse control. That, to me, represents a constant risk of something really bad happening.
"Quality of the United States population"? Nice eugenics, Dr. Mengele. Maybe we can breed it out of the poor bastards.
Eugenics? That's quite the leap you troll! :lol: Why not just a poll tax or only property owners?

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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The quality of representative government depends to a large extent on the quality of the people it represents. There is something seriously wrong with a population that would do something like elect somebody like Donald Trump to be President. I'm sorry, but there is.

It didn't just start with this last election. But this last election illustrated the problem we have in a really stark way. To have almost half the people in the country vote for somebody like that is very disturbing.

And, no, the fact that someone as bad as Hillary Clinton was the alternative doesn't mitigate the situation. You don't vote for a cartoon character buffoon like that who also happens to be incredibly and obviously dishonest even by the standards of politicians to be President of the United States.
Duopoly.
Do you seriously think that we'd have better candidates (or a greater number of viable parties) if elections were publicly funded?
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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The quality of representative government depends to a large extent on the quality of the people it represents. There is something seriously wrong with a population that would do something like elect somebody like Donald Trump to be President. I'm sorry, but there is.

It didn't just start with this last election. But this last election illustrated the problem we have in a really stark way. To have almost half the people in the country vote for somebody like that is very disturbing.

And, no, the fact that someone as bad as Hillary Clinton was the alternative doesn't mitigate the situation. You don't vote for a cartoon character buffoon like that who also happens to be incredibly and obviously dishonest even by the standards of politicians to be President of the United States.
Duopoly.
I think that is indeed a problem.
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Duopoly.
Do you seriously think that we'd have better candidates (or a greater number of viable parties) if elections were publicly funded?
I dunno but it might be better than the options presented by the two parties in 16
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
Homo-eroticism duly noted.... :rofl:

And yes...of course it's a democratic republic.

"We prefere this system to any monarchy, because we are convinced it has a greater tendency to secure our liberty and promote our happiness. We admire it because we think it a well-regulated democracy."

- John Marshall

Although I do understand the concerns regarding democracy as well.

"Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people."

- Oscar Wilde
I'm not sure what ^ that gibberish is but here's the problem with a "Democracy"

In a Democracy a simple majority of angry people can rescind the rights of free peoples
Based on nothing more than misinformation

In a Democracy there is no rule of law

In a Democracy logic and reason take a back seat to religion
sounds like us...
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: "Quality of the United States population"? Nice eugenics, Dr. Mengele. Maybe we can breed it out of the poor bastards.
The quality of representative government depends to a large extent on the quality of the people it represents. There is something seriously wrong with a population that would do something like elect somebody like Donald Trump to be President. I'm sorry, but there is.

It didn't just start with this last election. But this last election illustrated the problem we have in a really stark way. To have almost half the people in the country vote for somebody like that is very disturbing.

And, no, the fact that someone as bad as Hillary Clinton was the alternative doesn't mitigate the situation. You don't vote for a cartoon character buffoon like that who also happens to be incredibly and obviously dishonest even by the standards of politicians to be President of the United States.

From a Ted Cruz supporter...

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