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Speaking of History

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The msm has been busy whitewashing our previous embrace of dictators. And many on the left will jump right on board the patriotic propaganda ship to vilify Trump... :ohno:
ALL OF THIS history is now being erased and whitewashed, replaced with jingoistic fairy tales by the U.S. media and leading political officials. Despite these decades of flagrant pro-dictatorship policies, the U.S. media and leading political officials have spent months manufacturing and disseminating a propagandistic fairy tale that casts Donald Trump’s embrace of dictators as some sort of new, aberrational departure from the noble American tradition.

They have repeatedly claimed that the pre-Trump U.S. was devoted to supporting and spreading democracy around the world, while condemning and opposing tyranny. This is rank revisionism of the worst kind: jingoistic propaganda that should shame anyone endorsing it.

Like U.S. support for dictators, these recent bouts of propaganda are too numerous to comprehensively chronicle. Some of the more influential instances will have to suffice.

In February, the New York Times editorial page — writing under the phrase used by Jeane Kirkpatrick to demonize 1984 Democrats as unpatriotic: “Blame America First” — attacked Trump with this propagandistic garbage: “Since taking office, Mr. Trump has shown little support for America’s traditional roles as a champion of universal values like freedom of the press and tolerance.” Imagine what a shock it would be to the people of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Chile, Bahrain, Iran, Argentina, Brazil, and the countless other countries that lived under a U.S.-supported dictator to hear about “America’s traditional roles as a champion of universal values like freedom of the press and tolerance.”

Perhaps the worst example yet came yesterday in a Washington Post article by its White House bureau chief Philip Rucker, who made this claim: “Every American president since at least the 1970s has used his office to champion human rights and democratic values around the world.” He added: “In an undeniable shift in American foreign policy, Trump is cultivating authoritarian leaders.”

Cultivating authoritarian leaders is everything except a “shift in American foreign policy.” Nonetheless, this propagandistic lie has now become commonplace among über-patriotic journalists eager to tell the world that the U.S. before Trump had been devoted to liberating the oppressed peoples of the world from tyranny. Here’s the New York Times political reporter Maggie Haberman — in a widely shared tweet — endorsing these jingoistic falsehoods from Rucker:..............................

WHAT’S REALLY GOING on here is self-evident. Nobody remotely rational, nobody with even a fleeting understanding of U.S. history, believes that the U.S. only began supporting and heaping praise on dictators upon Trump’s inauguration. Responding to criticisms, the Post yesterday edited Rucker’s patriotic tribute to the U.S. by adding the italicized words: “Every American president since at least the 1970s has used his office at least occasionally :rofl: to champion human rights and democratic values around the world.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/02/tru ... n-from-it/
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Shocked.

Shocked, I say.
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"At least occasionally" WaPo displays journalistic integrity.
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kalm wrote:The msm has been busy whitewashing our previous embrace of dictators. And many on the left will jump right on board the patriotic propaganda ship to vilify Trump... :ohno:
ALL OF THIS history is now being erased and whitewashed, replaced with jingoistic fairy tales by the U.S. media and leading political officials. Despite these decades of flagrant pro-dictatorship policies, the U.S. media and leading political officials have spent months manufacturing and disseminating a propagandistic fairy tale that casts Donald Trump’s embrace of dictators as some sort of new, aberrational departure from the noble American tradition.

They have repeatedly claimed that the pre-Trump U.S. was devoted to supporting and spreading democracy around the world, while condemning and opposing tyranny. This is rank revisionism of the worst kind: jingoistic propaganda that should shame anyone endorsing it.

Like U.S. support for dictators, these recent bouts of propaganda are too numerous to comprehensively chronicle. Some of the more influential instances will have to suffice.

In February, the New York Times editorial page — writing under the phrase used by Jeane Kirkpatrick to demonize 1984 Democrats as unpatriotic: “Blame America First” — attacked Trump with this propagandistic garbage: “Since taking office, Mr. Trump has shown little support for America’s traditional roles as a champion of universal values like freedom of the press and tolerance.” Imagine what a shock it would be to the people of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Chile, Bahrain, Iran, Argentina, Brazil, and the countless other countries that lived under a U.S.-supported dictator to hear about “America’s traditional roles as a champion of universal values like freedom of the press and tolerance.”

Perhaps the worst example yet came yesterday in a Washington Post article by its White House bureau chief Philip Rucker, who made this claim: “Every American president since at least the 1970s has used his office to champion human rights and democratic values around the world.” He added: “In an undeniable shift in American foreign policy, Trump is cultivating authoritarian leaders.”

Cultivating authoritarian leaders is everything except a “shift in American foreign policy.” Nonetheless, this propagandistic lie has now become commonplace among über-patriotic journalists eager to tell the world that the U.S. before Trump had been devoted to liberating the oppressed peoples of the world from tyranny. Here’s the New York Times political reporter Maggie Haberman — in a widely shared tweet — endorsing these jingoistic falsehoods from Rucker:..............................

WHAT’S REALLY GOING on here is self-evident. Nobody remotely rational, nobody with even a fleeting understanding of U.S. history, believes that the U.S. only began supporting and heaping praise on dictators upon Trump’s inauguration. Responding to criticisms, the Post yesterday edited Rucker’s patriotic tribute to the U.S. by adding the italicized words: “Every American president since at least the 1970s has used his office at least occasionally :rofl: to champion human rights and democratic values around the world.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/02/tru ... n-from-it/
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:The msm has been busy whitewashing our previous embrace of dictators. And many on the left will jump right on board the patriotic propaganda ship to vilify Trump... :ohno:



https://theintercept.com/2017/05/02/tru ... n-from-it/
Supporting dictators is as American as Apple Pie. We've been doing long before Trump was born. :thumb: Latin America, South America, Middle East, Asia....we support them all. :thumb:
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Supporting dictators is as American as Apple Pie. We've been doing long before Trump was born. :thumb: Latin America, South America, Middle East, Asia....we support them all. :thumb:
Most times it is in our interest

Since after all we are the shining city on the hill, it stands to reason that everybody else is less so
Yep...It depends on what dictator was better. I know, people will say "but the other dude was democratically elected" but so was Chavez...So was Mugabe....etc
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cx500d wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Most times it is in our interest

Since after all we are the shining city on the hill, it stands to reason that everybody else is less so
Yep...It depends on what dictator was better. I know, people will say "but the other dude was democratically elected" but so was Chavez...So was Mugabe....etc
If we're truly a beacon of democracy and liberty, you don't support either. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Supporting dictators is as American as Apple Pie. We've been doing long before Trump was born. :thumb: Latin America, South America, Middle East, Asia....we support them all. :thumb:
Most times it is in our interest

Since after all we are the shining city on the hill, it stands to reason that everybody else is less so

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