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Re: Comey Fired

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Re: Comey Fired

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∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
Are you now challenging GF and UNI88 for the "CS.com centrist" title? :-?
The more the merrier!!!! If only more of us were true centrists. :thumb:
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Re: Comey Fired

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GannonFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Are you now challenging GF and UNI88 for the "CS.com centrist" title? :-?
The more the merrier!!!! If only more of us were true centrists. :thumb:
Nah, I'm pretty liberal. But I also don't live in a reality where no one else's opinion is correct.
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Re: Comey Fired

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This is Trump's biggest fuckup since the rollout of the first immigration ban... that was also rushed incompetently with no plan.

Ok. He wants Comey fired. Comey certainly did some unorthodox things. I don't think he acted maliciously (either for or against Clinton) and was caught in a no-win situation. But, whatever. It's not like he is unassailable.

But, why the fuck rush it like this? Have someone ready to step in that is competent and widely respected. It would immediately assuage fears about the motivations.

I have my assumptions for why it was rushed... but, I'm curious what the defenders think about why it was handled the way it was. Anybody?
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Re: Comey Fired

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∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
It's too bad Obama made Hillary a part of his cabinet

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Re: Comey Fired

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∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
I don't think many people here are actually defending Trump. Trump's a no talent assclown that should quit before he does something that's truly damaging.

Jon thinks anyone that didn't vote for Clinton is against him, his lifestyle and therefore they are traitors and need to die. He overreacts. You can't reason or have a reasonable conversation with someone that is too emotional. They don't listen to facts. Like the fact that people are in jail right now for mishandling classified documents/information in a manner less egregious than Clinton. Jon (and liberals) can't own up to the fact that they are as flawed as the Republicans they love to loathe.
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: WGAF, that is not anywhere near anyone's assertion. Not very sharp if this is your take away as to what is or should be the focus of their investigation.

Lol - at least 200K in Wisconsin were not able to vote.

And the Clinton Uranium deal - looked into already, nothting there.

Emails? Again, beaten to death, nothing there.

Clinton Foundation? Again, nothing there. But you are so fucking stupid on that - the Trump Foundation IS A FUCKING SCAM. But you are too fucking stupid to see that.



Trump is a fucking traitor to the United States. Anyone with a brain can see that. Fuck the rest of you for destroying my country - supporting trump is supporting treason.
You talking to me? I ain't supporting Trump and never have.

I didn't bring up any of those issues you presented here. I am talking about the assertion that the FBI investigation is about Russia changing votes which is what I took the other posters stance to be.
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ivytalk wrote: Are you now challenging GF and UNI88 for the "CS.com centrist" title? :-?
The more the merrier!!!! If only more of us were true centrists. :thumb:
I don't recall seeing you at any meetings.... :coffee:
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Re: Comey Fired

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Skjellyfetti wrote:This is Trump's biggest fuckup since the rollout of the first immigration ban... that was also rushed incompetently with no plan.

Ok. He wants Comey fired. Comey certainly did some unorthodox things. I don't think he acted maliciously (either for or against Clinton) and was caught in a no-win situation. But, whatever. It's not like he is unassailable.

But, why the fuck rush it like this? Have someone ready to step in that is competent and widely respected. It would immediately assuage fears about the motivations.

I have my assumptions for why it was rushed... but, I'm curious what the defenders think about why it was handled the way it was. Anybody?
What are your assumptions?

Why not let Comey resign? Do a good, internal search for a competent person and then allow Comey to take his leave.

At least let Comey know you're going to fire him before it's blasted all over CNN and Drudge. :ohno:
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
I don't think many people here are actually defending Trump. Trump's a no talent assclown that should quit before he does something that's truly damaging.

Jon thinks anyone that didn't vote for Clinton is against him, his lifestyle and therefore they are traitors and need to die. He overreacts. You can't reason or have a reasonable conversation with someone that is too emotional. They don't listen to facts. Like the fact that people are in jail right now for mishandling classified documents/information in a manner less egregious than Clinton. Jon (and liberals) can't own up to the fact that they are as flawed as the Republicans they love to loathe.
Eh, there is a lot of tacit support if not outright support from what I see for the retard. Clinton was a POS as well. No need to defend either on of them for the most part.
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I don't think many people here are actually defending Trump. Trump's a no talent assclown that should quit before he does something that's truly damaging.

Jon thinks anyone that didn't vote for Clinton is against him, his lifestyle and therefore they are traitors and need to die. He overreacts. You can't reason or have a reasonable conversation with someone that is too emotional. They don't listen to facts. Like the fact that people are in jail right now for mishandling classified documents/information in a manner less egregious than Clinton. Jon (and liberals) can't own up to the fact that they are as flawed as the Republicans they love to loathe.
Eh, there is a lot of tacit support if not outright support from what I see for the retard. Clinton was a POS as well. No need to defend either on of them for the most part.
Trump's something...i'm not sure...but he's a special kind of narcissist moron.
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ibanez wrote:What are your assumptions?
That the timing with Comey asking DOJ for more funding specifically to widen the Russia investigation and now a grand jury in Virginia sending out subpoenas isn't coincidental. I think the Russia investigation is finding out way more than Trump originally assumed.

Ibanez wrote:l search for a competent person and then allow Comey to take his leave.

At least let Comey know you're going to fire him before it's blasted all over CNN and Drudge. :ohno:
Yeah, there is also an internal investigation into Comey's actions by the inspector general. Let that process finish and it would likely be highly critical and the timing would be much less questionable.
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Re: Comey Fired

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Ibanez wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Eh, there is a lot of tacit support if not outright support from what I see for the retard. Clinton was a POS as well. No need to defend either on of them for the most part.
Trump's something...i'm not sure...but he's a special kind of narcissist moron.
Absolutely. I've disliked people in that office a couple times. I've always respected them for the office and the weight of the job. I do not respect this fucker in any way. I did respect Comey a great deal, so this sucks balls in my book.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Trump's something...i'm not sure...but he's a special kind of narcissist moron.
Absolutely. I've disliked people in that office a couple times. I've always respected them for the office and the weight of the job. I do not respect this fucker in any way. I did respect Comey a great deal, so this sucks balls in my book.
I can always respect the office if I couldn't respect the person. Seems not many can do that...
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Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
The more the merrier!!!! If only more of us were true centrists. :thumb:
I don't recall seeing you at any meetings.... :coffee:
There's still that North/South split - I'm like a Stephen Douglas or John Bell, you're like Breckinridge. Time to admit you guys lost and put past divisions aside. We'll call it the Centrist Reconstruction. :thumb:
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I don't recall seeing you at any meetings.... :coffee:
There's still that North/South split - I'm like a Stephen Douglas or John Bell, you're like Breckinridge. Time to admit you guys lost and put past divisions aside. We'll call it the Centrist Reconstruction. :thumb:
:tothehand: Breckinridge was a bitch.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Are you now challenging GF and UNI88 for the "CS.com centrist" title? :-?
The more the merrier!!!! If only more of us were true centrists. :thumb:
What if the center moves? Do you move with it? What if there are only two parties and they don't offer a viable or principled choice?

I'd much rather have more independents, unattached to either party and that weigh each issue regardless of where the middle is, than more centrists. Independents are more principled that way. :coffee:
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Trump should have fired his incompetent butt on day1.


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It cracks me up how the Repuks still defend this guy...........lol
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∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
Spot on Trip but the flip side is that a lot on the left brushed Hillary's actions off.

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UNI88 wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:I think Jon is overreacting, but he's reaching for a point that's understandable: a lot of people keep brushing Trump's actions off, to a fault. When do you stop defending the indefensible?

I feel that at this point, too many live vicariously through the unfettered support of other people. It's as if when Trump is "#winning," they're also "#winning" at life. It's the same for many liberals, even though it's a fake reality they've built around themselves.

This tribal nature of "me" vs. "them" that's taken hold also needs to stop somehow. Lord knows I've been guilty of it myself, but people also need to admit when they're wrong and accept that others know more than them. Democrats need to admit they can't do every social program and not go broke, Republicans need to admit they're not scientists, and etc.
Spot on Trip but the flip side is that a lot on the left brushed Hillary's actions off.

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Yep. Anyone who supported Hillary in the primary is just as much to blame for Trump as those who voted for him. :nod:
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