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Re: Trump pulls out of Paris Climate Deal

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Ivytalk wrote:
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Yet we desperately need their engineers!
Software engineers, not civil engineers! :roll:
Oh. So they can design state of the art computer programs but not toilets? :tothehand:

Maybe they need some civil priorities engineers... :roll:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Software engineers, not civil engineers! :roll:
Oh. So they can design state of the art computer programs but not toilets? :tothehand:

Maybe they need some civil priorities engineers... :roll:
Wouldn't that be a mechanical engineer?


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Oh. So they can design state of the art computer programs but not toilets? :tothehand:

Maybe they need some civil priorities engineers... :roll:
Wouldn't that be a mechanical engineer?


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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Software engineers, not civil engineers! :roll:
Oh. So they can design state of the art computer programs but not toilets? :tothehand:

Maybe they need some civil priorities engineers... :roll:
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Ibanez wrote: Wouldn't that be a mechanical engineer?


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Pulling out completely makes no sense.

Every country has their own, non-binding, self imposed standards.

If you don't like it, change the US's standards.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Pulling out completely makes no sense.

Every country has their own, non-binding, self imposed standards.

If you don't like it, change the US's standards.
Makes the mouth-breathers happy.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Pulling out completely makes no sense.

Every country has their own, non-binding, self imposed standards.

If you don't like it, change the US's standards.
Standards for what? For environmental protection, or for pulling out of non-treaty executive agreements?
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Pulling out completely makes no sense.

Every country has their own, non-binding, self imposed standards.

If you don't like it, change the US's standards.
Makes the mouth-breathers happy.
Pulling it out should make it easier to breath.

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No.
Industrial! That's the word I was looking for. :thumb:
Things like water and wastewater treatment for cities are done by civil engineers.
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Industrial! That's the word I was looking for. :thumb:
Things like water and wastewater treatment for cities are done by civil engineers.
But they don't necessarily design toilets, though. :coffee:
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By 2025 the US has to cut its emissions by 25% compared to 2005 levels. The Chinese can continue to increase their emissions until 2030. Seems like a good deal to me. Plus we can always trust the Chinese not to lie, cheat, or steal.
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HI54UNI wrote:The Chinese can continue to increase their emissions until 2030.
Fake News. :roll:
In order to fulfill its obligations under the Paris agreement Xinhua said China would need to cut carbon emissions by 60-65% per unit of GDP by 2030, compared with 2005 levels, and boost its use of non-fossil fuels so they accounted for 20% of its energy consumption.
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Industrial! That's the word I was looking for. :thumb:
Things like water and wastewater treatment for cities are done by civil engineers.
Yeah, I was confused. I should know that. My brother in law graduated from The Citadel with a CE degree.
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Makes the mouth-breathers happy.
Pulling it out should make it easier to breath.

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Ibanez wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
Things like water and wastewater treatment for cities are done by civil engineers.
Yeah, I was confused. I should know that. My brother in law graduated from The Citadel with a CE degree.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:The Chinese can continue to increase their emissions until 2030.
Fake News. :roll:
In order to fulfill its obligations under the Paris agreement Xinhua said China would need to cut carbon emissions by 60-65% per unit of GDP by 2030, compared with 2005 levels, and boost its use of non-fossil fuels so they accounted for 20% of its energy consumption.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -agreement
No it's not.

If you believe CO2 is a cause of global warming than per unit of GDP means nothing. All it means is that they have to be more efficient and use more renewables or nuclear going forward (which isn't a bad thing). As their economy/GDP grows they can continue to emit the same or more and yet meet this "reduction". If you believe CO2 is the cause of global warming your concern should be total tons of CO2 emitted not per GDP usage. India gets the same deal while the US has to cut actual tons of emissions.

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Among other things, China, a developing country, says it will lower its emissions per unit of GDP within the range of 60 percent to 65 percent below the 2005 level by 2030. Whereas the U.S., a developed country, has pledged to achieve an “economy-wide target” of reducing its emissions within the range of 26 percent to 28 percent below its 2005 level by 2025.

The United States’ contribution is an absolute amount, while China’s is a ratio of emissions to unit of gross domestic product, a measure of a country’s economic health and standard of living. This ratio considers China’s need to further develop, a side effect of which is that its total emissions will continue to increase. However, another one of China’s goals under the Paris Accord is to “achieve the peaking of carbon dioxide emissions around 2030,” with “best efforts to peak early.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/03/pruitt-paris-accord/


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http://fortune.com/2017/06/01/apple-goo ... is-accord/

^This right here is really all the proof you need that this is all about virtue signaling and feeling good rather than doing anything substantive to reduce emissions.

Remember when liberals would be skeptical about global warming action that is supported and liked by the CEOs of companies like Exxon? What happened to that skepticism?

This deal is the politicians equivalent of large groups of people on twitter demanding that Boko Haram return all the girls they kidnapped.
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So since Captain Covfefe hasn't announced yet that the US is pulling out of the Paris Climate Deal...isn't this whole thread just fake news?
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bandl wrote:So since Captain Covfefe hasn't announced yet that the US is pulling out of the Paris Climate Deal...isn't this whole thread just fake news?
Reuters just reported they've seen the document signaling the withdraw from the agreement.
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GannonFan wrote:
bandl wrote:So since Captain Covfefe hasn't announced yet that the US is pulling out of the Paris Climate Deal...isn't this whole thread just fake news?
Reuters just reported they've seen the document signaling the withdraw from the agreement.
What about the previous ~30 hours between when this thread was created and when Reuters reported about a document?
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bandl wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Reuters just reported they've seen the document signaling the withdraw from the agreement.
What about the previous ~30 hours between when this thread was created and when Reuters reported about a document?
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Presser at 3:00, right?
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