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Jjoey52 wrote:The only suspicious ties to Russia is Clinton!s uranium deal.


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You find something funny about the Clinton uranium story?

Maybe you know more than the media has reported...
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:More fake news out of CNN..
CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump and Russia
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/polit ... ?mobi=true
This retracted story notwithstanding, you do believe there are Trump ties to Russia, right?
No more than what Hillary had..

And there was no collusion..
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kalm wrote:
:rofl:
You find something funny about the Clinton uranium story?

Maybe you know more than the media has reported...
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
You find something funny about the Clinton uranium story?

Maybe you know more than the media has reported...
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
To date, it's the only one with hard proof...

Lots of rumors and propaganda surrounding the Trumpster, and the former DHS Secretary confirmed that the Obama administration knew something but did nothing...
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Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
To date, it's the only one with hard proof...

Lots of rumors and propaganda surrounding the Trumpster, and the former DHS Secretary confirmed that the Obama administration knew something but did nothing...
I didn't ask for "hard proof", I was replying to Joey who said said "the only suspicious ties to Russia...". :suspicious:

So nothing suspicious at all about loans, Trump's kids statements, Manafort, Wilbur Ross, Roger Stone, Carter Page, etc? :suspicious:

Sorry if my skepticism hurts your feelings, Colonel....

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Trump got four Pinocchios for his claims about the Clinton uranium deal from the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... e5eacde06c

And Politifact rated the claim as "Mostly False":

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... n-got-pai/

But of course we can't believe those things because it's the liberal media. That's the standard line.
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You know, some of what I've seen in this thread illustrates the point that the "Fake News" problem is on the right. We have an unfortunate situation in which my "side,"....the conservative side...has largely become detached from reality. I don't know how you can win in the long term when you're not dealing with reality.
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JohnStOnge wrote:You know, some of what I've seen in this thread illustrates the point that the "Fake News" problem is on the right. We have an unfortunate situation in which my "side,"....the conservative side...has largely become detached from reality. I don't know how you can win in the long term when you're not dealing with reality.
Marketing/propaganda. :nod:

I've made a conscious decision to no longer have a "side". That allows me to respect and consider opposing views. It's a wonderful and honest place to reside. :nod:
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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
To date, it's the only one with hard proof...

Lots of rumors and propaganda surrounding the Trumpster, and the former DHS Secretary confirmed that the Obama administration knew something but did nothing...
I didn't ask for "hard proof", I was replying to Joey who said said "the only suspicious ties to Russia...". :suspicious:

So nothing suspicious at all about loans, Trump's kids statements, Manafort, Wilbur Ross, Roger Stone, Carter Page, etc? :suspicious:

Sorry if my skepticism hurts your feelings, Colonel....

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ons-214868
Nothing suspicious about Flynn...the liar got fired...pretty straight forward...

Regarding the rest, how are the rumors about them coming for proof that they broke laws or did something illegal or immoral??? And how are their alleged contacts different than those reported about members of the Hildog team???

Your skepticism amuses me...it doesn't hurt...

And contrary to your alleged neutral position, it shows your left-ward lean...nothing wrong with that, just be honest...

And, yes, Trump is somewhat a scuzz-bag...but much less than Hillary would have been IMHO, so I'm still ok...show me EVIDENCE of wrongdoing and then that's a different story
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JohnStOnge wrote:You know, some of what I've seen in this thread illustrates the point that the "Fake News" problem is on the right. We have an unfortunate situation in which my "side,"....the conservative side...has largely become detached from reality. I don't know how you can win in the long term when you're not dealing with reality.
Don't worry, John. That's not your side. You're no conservative. You're just a progtard, OCD troll.
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Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
I didn't ask for "hard proof", I was replying to Joey who said said "the only suspicious ties to Russia...". :suspicious:

So nothing suspicious at all about loans, Trump's kids statements, Manafort, Wilbur Ross, Roger Stone, Carter Page, etc? :suspicious:

Sorry if my skepticism hurts your feelings, Colonel....

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ons-214868
Nothing suspicious about Flynn...the liar got fired...pretty straight forward...

Regarding the rest, how are the rumors about them coming for proof that they broke laws or did something illegal or immoral??? And how are their alleged contacts different than those reported about members of the Hildog team???

Your skepticism amuses me...it doesn't hurt...

And contrary to your alleged neutral position, it shows your left-ward lean...nothing wrong with that, just be honest...

And, yes, Trump is somewhat a scuzz-bag...but much less than Hillary would have been IMHO, so I'm still ok...show me EVIDENCE of wrongdoing and then that's a different story
Again, you're reading comprehension needs some work. I never mentioned Flynn. I also never said anyone broke laws or did something illegal. I never attempted to make a comparison to Hillary.

I reacted to Joey's comment of "nothing suspicious". That seems to REALLY trouble you and you're rather desperately now casting the kitchen sink. :lol:

If you look back on my posts, I've taken a wait and see approach to all of this. I'm not sure where it all heads but there's every reason to have suspicion. A number of conservatives have also publicly criticized Trump and shown suspicion so your accusation of my *leftward leanings carries no water.

And I've never had a problem admitting that I lean left. I think labels are fairly meaningless at this point but I'm perfectly fine with the descriptor "liberal". Liberal to me means liberty loving and open minded. Sorry that's a pejorative for you. :kisswink:
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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
You find something funny about the Clinton uranium story?

Maybe you know more than the media has reported...
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
I think Trump has all kinds of financial ties to Russia

If asked, i would have assumed it - even before he ran for president

But I think those ties will only amount to raised eyebrows - too many people fully expect that some smoking gun is going to pop up that will do Trump in

i think theres going to be a lot of wasted energy and disappointment over the next 4 years


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
I think Trump has all kinds of financial ties to Russia

If asked, i would have assumed it - even before he ran for president

But I think those ties will only amount to raised eyebrows - too many people fully expect that some smoking gun is going to pop up that will do Trump in

i think theres going to be a lot of wasted energy and disappointment over the next 4 years


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That's been my assumption so far too.
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you agree that the only suspicious ties to Russia are related to Clinton? :suspicious:
I think Trump has all kinds of financial ties to Russia

If asked, i would have assumed it - even before he ran for president

But I think those ties will only amount to raised eyebrows - too many people fully expect that some smoking gun is going to pop up that will do Trump in

i think theres going to be a lot of wasted energy and disappointment over the next 4 years


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CID1990 wrote:
I think Trump has all kinds of financial ties to Russia

If asked, i would have assumed it - even before he ran for president

But I think those ties will only amount to raised eyebrows - too many people fully expect that some smoking gun is going to pop up that will do Trump in

i think theres going to be a lot of wasted energy and disappointment over the next 4 years


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Now the donks will know how conks felt for eight years of the Benghazi /birth certificate/muslin debacles
none of those were criminal- they were just silly (and Trump went all in on the birth cert)

Benghazi was the result of a failed north africa policy (and it belonged to Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice exclusively) - but lying about the cause? Also not criminal (just dumb politics)

Want to know what the real scandals were?

IRS targeting conservative PACs
NSA data collection
ATF gunwalking
Hillary's email server


On the first three of those, there was a boldfaced government official, committing clear acts of perjury or contempt (Lois Lerner copped the 5th before she would have had to lie)

two of them were cabinet level - Holder and Clapper

and yet Benghazi sucked all the air out of the room - for almost nothing.... but, like the Whitewater investigation, it turned up Hillary's spunk-stained blue dress... her email server

It's always the bright shiny object that distracts from the real issues, but it can also reveal other things...

thats why I said before that Trump and Co probably arent worried about collusion on the election because they know it isnt there. But there's no such thing as a billionaire real estate developer who doesnt have shady sh1t going on .... and special prosecutors have a tendency to dig that stuff out like boogers


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How Holder is not in prison for life I'll never understand...

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Chizzang wrote:How Holder is not in prison for life I'll never understand...

:shock:

un-f*cking-believable
he's not in prison for the same reason Hillary was never going to be indicted

and the same reason Trump wont be impeached (unless he does something new)


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CNN resignations over fake news story:

"Three CNN journalists, including the executive editor in charge of a new investigative unit, have resigned after the publication of a Russia-related article that was retracted.

Thomas Frank, who wrote the story in question; Eric Lichtblau, an editor in the unit; and Lex Haris, who oversaw the unit, have all left CNN.

"In the aftermath of the retraction of a story published on CNN.com, CNN has accepted the resignations of the employees involved in the story's publication," a spokesman said Monday evening.

An internal investigation by CNN management found that some standard editorial processes were not followed when the article was published, people briefed on the results of the investigation said.
The story, which reported that Congress was investigating a "Russian investment fund with ties to Trump officials," cited a single anonymous source.

These types of stories are typically reviewed by several departments within CNN -- including fact-checkers, journalism standards experts and lawyers -- before publication......"
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CNN producer caught on hidden video taking about the Russia narrative vis a vis Trump:
"I mean, it's mostly bullshit right now, like, we don't have any giant proof."

"Just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords and for a day and a half we covered the climate accords. And the CEO of CNN (Jeff Zucker) said in our internal meeting, he said good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with that, let's get back to Russia."

"I just feel like they don't really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."
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BDKJMU wrote:CNN producer caught on hidden video taking about the Russia narrative vis a vis Trump:
"I mean, it's mostly bullshit right now, like, we don't have any giant proof."

"Just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords and for a day and a half we covered the climate accords. And the CEO of CNN (Jeff Zucker) said in our internal meeting, he said good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with that, let's get back to Russia."

"I just feel like they don't really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."
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With all due respect your post is an illustration of a very big problem we have in this country right now. The Russia story is not "fake news." There is an investigation of Russian efforts to impact our election going on right now. That is the truth. Our intelligence agencies believe the Russians did make the effort. That is the truth. The investigation includes looking into whether or not there was collusion between the Russians and some people in the Trump campaign. That is the truth.

But we have a President who operates via the lie. He lies constantly. And he has been successful in getting away with it with this "fake news" shtick that you have apparently fallen prey to and are perpetuating.

We have a serious problem when we've got a President who operates through misinformation and deception and he has convinced almost half the population that the people who are calling him out on it are "fake news."
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BDKJMU wrote:CNN producer caught on hidden video taking about the Russia narrative vis a vis Trump:
"I mean, it's mostly bullshit right now, like, we don't have any giant proof."

"Just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords and for a day and a half we covered the climate accords. And the CEO of CNN (Jeff Zucker) said in our internal meeting, he said good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with that, let's get back to Russia."

"I just feel like they don't really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."
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With all due respect your post is an illustration of a very big problem we have in this country right now. The Russia story is not "fake news." There is an investigation of Russian efforts to impact our election going on right now. That is the truth. Our intelligence agencies believe the Russians did make the effort. That is the truth. The investigation includes looking into whether or not there was collusion between the Russians and some people in the Trump campaign. That is the truth.

But we have a President who operates via the lie. He lies constantly. And he has been successful in getting away with it with this "fake news" shtick that you have apparently fallen prey to and are perpetuating.

We have a serious problem when we've got a President who operates through misinformation and deception and he has convinced almost half the population that the people who are calling him out on it are "fake news."
And after a year of investigation there has been ZERO evidence presented of any collusion. Yet the left, including FNN, still continues to peddle that..That is the truth..
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BDKJMU wrote: And after a year of investigation there has been ZERO evidence presented of any collusion. Yet the left, including FNN, still continues to peddle that..That is the truth..
CNN has been peddling that there's evidence of collusion?

If the Fake News on this story is so rampant - why don't they just peddle fake stories with fake evidence of collusion? :coffee:

If it's a hoax, why did a Trump appointee appoint a special counsel? Appointing him doesn't mean guilt - but, it at least means it warrants investigating. No?


Take the Loretta Lynch - Bill Clinton tarmac story. Is there any evidence about what they discussed? No. Does that make it fake news? No. Is there enough suspicion to warrant an investigation? Yes.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: And after a year of investigation there has been ZERO evidence presented of any collusion. Yet the left, including FNN, still continues to peddle that..That is the truth..
CNN has been peddling that there's evidence of collusion?

If the Fake News on this story is so rampant - why don't they just peddle fake stories with fake evidence of collusion? :coffee:

If it's a hoax, why did a Trump appointee appoint a special counsel? Appointing him doesn't mean guilt - but, it at least means it warrants investigating. No?


Take the Loretta Lynch - Bill Clinton tarmac story. Is there any evidence about what they discussed? No. Does that make it fake news? No. Is there enough suspicion to warrant and investigation? Yes.
They have been peddling fake news and evidence.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: And after a year of investigation there has been ZERO evidence presented of any collusion. Yet the left, including FNN, still continues to peddle that..That is the truth..
CNN has been peddling that there's evidence of collusion?

If the Fake News on this story is so rampant - why don't they just peddle fake stories with fake evidence of collusion? :coffee:

If it's a hoax, why did a Trump appointee appoint a special counsel? Appointing him doesn't mean guilt - but, it at least means it warrants investigating. No?


Take the Loretta Lynch - Bill Clinton tarmac story. Is there any evidence about what they discussed? No. Does that make it fake news? No. Is there enough suspicion to warrant an investigation? Yes.
They have been..
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BDKJMU wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
CNN has been peddling that there's evidence of collusion?

If the Fake News on this story is so rampant - why don't they just peddle fake stories with fake evidence of collusion? :coffee:

If it's a hoax, why did a Trump appointee appoint a special counsel? Appointing him doesn't mean guilt - but, it at least means it warrants investigating. No?


Take the Loretta Lynch - Bill Clinton tarmac story. Is there any evidence about what they discussed? No. Does that make it fake news? No. Is there enough suspicion to warrant an investigation? Yes.
They have been..
Yep. CNN's fake news was on display for the world to see today.
...While Haris was away, his group published a story on CNN.com that reported — citing a single anonymous source — that Senate investigators were looking into a meeting between a member of President Trump’s transition team, Wall Street financier Anthony Scaramucci, and an executive of a Russian investment fund before Trump took office. The story seemed to advance the narrative of ties between Trump campaign officials and people close to Russian President Vladi­mir Putin.

One problem: When challenged on the particulars of the story, CNN acknowledged that it couldn’t stand by it. It retracted it and apologized to Scaramucci on Saturday. On Monday, Haris and the editor and reporter of the piece, Eric Lichtblau and Thomas Frank, resigned from CNN...
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