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2017 Poli/History Summer Reading List
Just started Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Should be a ripsnorter! Almost all the sources are campaign insiders who spoke on condition of anonymity. They're still scared of the vengeful old bitch.
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Fake News! Sad!Ivytalk wrote:who spoke on condition of anonymity.
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Well, AJ, it was either anonymity or no book. I'm looking forward to reading how atrocious a candidate she was.Skjellyfetti wrote:Fake News! Sad!Ivytalk wrote:who spoke on condition of anonymity.
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Ivytalk wrote:Well, AJ, it was either anonymity or no book. I'm looking forward to reading how atrocious a candidate she was.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Fake News! Sad!
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You done pulled a BDK, IT.Ivytalk wrote:Well, AJ, it was either anonymity or no book. I'm looking forward to reading how atrocious a candidate she was.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Fake News! Sad!
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Don't skip to the last chapter to see how it ends.Ivytalk wrote:Just started Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Should be a ripsnorter! Almost all the sources are campaign insiders who spoke on condition of anonymity. They're still scared of the vengeful old bitch.
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I was about to askCitadelGrad wrote:Don't skip to the last chapter to see how it ends.Ivytalk wrote:Just started Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Should be a ripsnorter! Almost all the sources are campaign insiders who spoke on condition of anonymity. They're still scared of the vengeful old bitch.
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No, I thrive on drama ( no homo). I will read every page with undisguised glee.CitadelGrad wrote:Don't skip to the last chapter to see how it ends.Ivytalk wrote:Just started Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Should be a ripsnorter! Almost all the sources are campaign insiders who spoke on condition of anonymity. They're still scared of the vengeful old bitch.
My guess is that she still loses.
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Almost halfway through Shattered. It's very good: the authors are fair and balanced. Lots of interesting stuff about both Bernie and Hildabeast that I didn't know before.
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Yeah? Like what?Ivytalk wrote:Almost halfway through Shattered. It's very good: the authors are fair and balanced. Lots of interesting stuff about both Bernie and Hildabeast that I didn't know before.
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Anonymous sources don't count when they speak about how much Hillary mistreats the white house staff or has contempt for the secret service.Ivytalk wrote:Just started Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Should be a ripsnorter! Almost all the sources are campaign insiders who spoke on condition of anonymity. They're still scared of the vengeful old bitch.
They only count when it's something about Trump.
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Buy the book, you cheapskate!Ibanez wrote:Yeah? Like what?Ivytalk wrote:Almost halfway through Shattered. It's very good: the authors are fair and balanced. Lots of interesting stuff about both Bernie and Hildabeast that I didn't know before.
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I just downloaded "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg to read on my upcoming road trip...
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Heard about that one on Rush last week!Col Hogan wrote:I just downloaded "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg to read on my upcoming road trip...
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You really need to stop listening to him...he's affecting your health...Grizalltheway wrote:Heard about that one on Rush last week!Col Hogan wrote:I just downloaded "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg to read on my upcoming road trip...
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It isn't fascism.Col Hogan wrote:I just downloaded "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg to read on my upcoming road trip...
It's Maoism

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Well, I finished Shattered last week. The authors are clearly Donks, so it was a more sympathetic portrait of Hildabitch than I expected. A few themes emerged: (1) Hillary never could articulate a persuasive rationale for people to vote for her; (2) her campaign staff, riven by infighting, relied too much on "analytics" and not enough on retail politics, particularly in the key swing states; (3) Hillary ignored working class white men who had supported Obama, favoring an appeal to women and minorities that helped her against Sanders but doomed her in the general; (4) Hildabeast grossly underestimated Trump ; and (5) she never accepted even partial blame for her own defeat.
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Points 3-5 were painfully obvious from just watching that dumpster fire of a campaign and its aftermath.Ivytalk wrote:Well, I finished Shattered last week. The authors are clearly Donks, so it was a more sympathetic portrait of Hildabitch than I expected. A few themes emerged: (1) Hillary never could articulate a persuasive rationale for people to vote for her; (2) her campaign staff, riven by infighting, relied too much on "analytics" and not enough on retail politics, particularly in the key swing states; (3) Hillary ignored working class white men who had supported Obama, favoring an appeal to women and minorities that helped her against Sanders but doomed her in the general; (4) Hildabeast grossly underestimated Trump ; and (5) she never accepted even partial blame for her own defeat.
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Found this of $2 in an old bookstore.

I've visited his home in NYC and have some knowledge about him, but so far it's quite fascinating. I'm only 1 chapter in (Birth to 1870). What an impressive mind this guy had.

I've visited his home in NYC and have some knowledge about him, but so far it's quite fascinating. I'm only 1 chapter in (Birth to 1870). What an impressive mind this guy had.
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Ibanez wrote:Found this of $2 in an old bookstore.
I've visited his home in NYC and have some knowledge about him, but so far it's quite fascinating. I'm only 1 chapter in (Birth to 1870). What an impressive mind this guy had.
They don't make Republicans like him anymore.
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Sure they do.Grizalltheway wrote:Ibanez wrote:Found this of $2 in an old bookstore.
I've visited his home in NYC and have some knowledge about him, but so far it's quite fascinating. I'm only 1 chapter in (Birth to 1870). What an impressive mind this guy had.![]()
They don't make Republicans like him anymore.
Now they're just libertarians and they're completely unelectable.
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Teddy Roosevelt? Libertarian?
Libertarian is quickly becoming a word that has lost all meaning like "literally", "ironic", and "covfefe."Teddy Roosevelt wrote:There once was a time in history when the limitation of governmental power meant increasing liberty for the people. In the present day the limitation of governmental power, of governmental action, means the enslavement of the people by the great corporations, who can only be held in check through the extension of governmental power.
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I forgot you're desperately checking my posts for a winSkjellyfetti wrote:Teddy Roosevelt? Libertarian?![]()
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Libertarian is quickly becoming a word that has lost all meaning like "literally", "ironic", and "covfefe."
For your benefit, I'll say that people today who would most closely resemble conservatives like T Roosevelt, are libertarians. He was a big government guy in a day when many people did not understand that all bureaucratic creep builds on the bureaucratic creep that came before it.
He wasn't a libertarian.
The people today who would most closely resemble him are libertarians.
And like Kennedy or Reagan, he wouldn't sniff a nomination
Is that parsed out enough for you, Nancy?
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So was I wrong to say they don't make Republicans like him anymore?CID1990 wrote:I forgot you're desperately checking my posts for a winSkjellyfetti wrote:Teddy Roosevelt? Libertarian?![]()
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Libertarian is quickly becoming a word that has lost all meaning like "literally", "ironic", and "covfefe."
For your benefit, I'll say that people today who would most closely resemble conservatives like T Roosevelt, are libertarians. He was a big government guy in a day when many people did not understand that all bureaucratic creep builds on the bureaucratic creep that came before it.
He wasn't a libertarian.
The people today who would most closely resemble him are libertarians.
And like Kennedy or Reagan, he wouldn't sniff a nomination
Is that parsed out enough for you, Nancy?
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Not reallyGrizalltheway wrote:So was I wrong to say they don't make Republicans like him anymore?CID1990 wrote:
I forgot you're desperately checking my posts for a win
For your benefit, I'll say that people today who would most closely resemble conservatives like T Roosevelt, are libertarians. He was a big government guy in a day when many people did not understand that all bureaucratic creep builds on the bureaucratic creep that came before it.
He wasn't a libertarian.
The people today who would most closely resemble him are libertarians.
And like Kennedy or Reagan, he wouldn't sniff a nomination
Is that parsed out enough for you, Nancy?
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