But Lincoln!Skjellyfetti wrote:You lost. Get over it, snowflake.CitadelGrad wrote:Lincoln conducted an illegal war and suspended or violated many parts of the Constitution. The result was the murder of more than 300,000 who did nothing more than comply with the law of the United States. Slavery was legal and secession was legal.
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The South did not take up arms until the U.S. Army garrison in Charleston refused to leave South Carolina, which had already legally seceded. There was no armed insurrection. South Carolina defended its territory against United States occupation force.Ibanez wrote:I'm pretty sure armed insurrection wasn't legal in 1860.CitadelGrad wrote:Lincoln conducted an illegal war and suspended or violated many parts of the Constitution. The result was the murder of more than 300,000 who did nothing more than comply with the law of the United States. Slavery was legal and secession was legal.
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Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.Skjellyfetti wrote:You lost. Get over it, snowflake.CitadelGrad wrote:Lincoln conducted an illegal war and suspended or violated many parts of the Constitution. The result was the murder of more than 300,000 who did nothing more than comply with the law of the United States. Slavery was legal and secession was legal.
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CitadelGrad wrote:Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.Skjellyfetti wrote:
You lost. Get over it, snowflake.

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Hmm....CitadelGrad wrote:Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.Skjellyfetti wrote:
You lost. Get over it, snowflake.
The drama runs deep here
Explain to me (other than lives lost) what else was lost..?
You still live in America
as do your relatives
That's what was lost, ego..? Pride..? Self worth..?
You sound like a Hilary supporter after the election
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So there weren't any military units in defense of SC before Anderson refused? Yeah ok.CitadelGrad wrote:The South did not take up arms until the U.S. Army garrison in Charleston refused to leave South Carolina, which had already legally seceded. There was no armed insurrection. South Carolina defended its territory against United States occupation force.Ibanez wrote: I'm pretty sure armed insurrection wasn't legal in 1860.
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What? That's some AZ type analogy here. The Holocaust is not comparable to the Civil War. Not by a long shot.CitadelGrad wrote:Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.Skjellyfetti wrote:
You lost. Get over it, snowflake.
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So far CitGrad has compared the plight of the Southrons to enslaved peoples and the Jews during the holocaust.
Keep it coming.
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Yup, you just did that. You actually compared the plight of the Confederacy - a government set up for the exclusive right to hold a racial group in perpetual slavery and servitude - with that of the Jews (and others) - forcibly taken out of their homes and countries and mass exterminated simply because of who they were. I don't blame you (well, I do a little bit), I blame every educational system and grown-up you've been educated by over the course of your life that actually believes equating the Confederacy with the plight of Jews in WWII is a valid comparison. For shame.CitadelGrad wrote:Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.Skjellyfetti wrote:
You lost. Get over it, snowflake.
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Cut him some slack.89Hen wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
Tell a Jew to get over the Holocaust.
He's still jacked over the stars and bars flying again yesterday at the South Carolina statehouse ...
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Those southern planters had it rough. Just like the Jews in Dachau.Skjellyfetti wrote:So far CitGrad has compared the plight of the Southrons to enslaved peoples and the Jews during the holocaust.![]()
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Whatever you say, Perfesser.GannonFan wrote:I disagree with the view on the Morrill Tarriff. First of all, that particular tariff itself would likely not have passed into law had it not actually been for the Southern states actually seceeding and removing their votes from the Senate that had been blocking passage of that bill. Once those Senators left, passage was all but assured. But beyond that, the primary goal, and not even the secondary one, had anything to do with slavery, per se. There was a particularly bad recession in 1857 that prompted the need for more revenues, and in the nineteenth century (and even before if you read the Federalist Papers) the main source of income for the federal government was import and export duties and tariffs. Basically, we needed more money and this was how governments went about getting money back then. And prior to this we were one of the lower tariff countries in the world so it's not like the example wasn't out there on how to raise money. In addition, rather than punishing the South, the tariff was more to promote the North - tariffs always had a motivation to protect domestic industry and obviously this tariff did protect Northern industries and manufacturing. But favoring the North is not the same as attacking slavery and the areas of the economy that used slavery. Heck, there were plenty of things taxed in that tariff that had nothing to do with slavery. Sure there were many in the North that would've been happy to make slavery more difficult to maintain, but there were bigger, more overriding reasons for tariff bills such as this one.CID1990 wrote:Chattel slavery was the central issue of the war. As Bruce Catton said, the war had many causes, but the one cause that, if it had not existed the war would not have happened, was slavery.
The Confederate states did have several gripes along the lines of what CitadelGrad said, though. Northern states were using economic policies, such as the Morrill tariff act to try to artificially raise the costs of agriculture that employed slave labor. At the same time, there was the fight over new states being admitted as free or slave states, each side wanting to tip the legislative scales.
The southern states were, in effect, being subjugated politically and economically - but the motivation for this was abolition
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Liberal weenies are not allowed to use the term "Snowflake." That's cultural appropriation. Only conservatives are allowed to use that term, as it's applicable only to liberal weenies.Skjellyfetti wrote:You lost. Get over it, snowflake.CitadelGrad wrote:Lincoln conducted an illegal war and suspended or violated many parts of the Constitution. The result was the murder of more than 300,000 who did nothing more than comply with the law of the United States. Slavery was legal and secession was legal.
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CitadelGrad wrote:The South did not take up arms until the U.S. Army garrison in Charleston refused to leave South Carolina, which had already legally seceded. There was no armed insurrection. South Carolina defended its territory against United States occupation force.Ibanez wrote: I'm pretty sure armed insurrection wasn't legal in 1860.
Wrong traitor snowflake. There was no legal right to secede. You, however, can renounce your citizenship and GTFO
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Ivytalk wrote:Liberal weenies are not allowed to use the term "Snowflake." That's cultural appropriation. Only conservatives are allowed to use that term, as it's applicable only to liberal weenies.Skjellyfetti wrote:
You lost. Get over it, snowflake.
Snowflakes is more appropriate for those who can't stand the thought of anyone other than white, straight, Christian males in power - so most of the GOP
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Hey, drama queen. Scroll up 3 posts. You have violated terminology rule # 1: LIBERAL WEENIES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE TERM "SNOWFLAKE."dbackjon wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
The South did not take up arms until the U.S. Army garrison in Charleston refused to leave South Carolina, which had already legally seceded. There was no armed insurrection. South Carolina defended its territory against United States occupation force.
Wrong traitor snowflake. There was no legal right to secede. You, however, can renounce your citizenship and GTFO
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I rely on the accepted definition in Urban Dictionary, a reputable transgendered site. So piss off.dbackjon wrote:Ivytalk wrote: Liberal weenies are not allowed to use the term "Snowflake." That's cultural appropriation. Only conservatives are allowed to use that term, as it's applicable only to liberal weenies.
Snowflakes is more appropriate for those who can't stand the thought of anyone other than white, straight, Christian males in power - so most of the GOP
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Ivytalk wrote:Hey, drama queen. Scroll up 3 posts. You have violated terminology rule # 1: LIBERAL WEENIES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE TERM "SNOWFLAKE."dbackjon wrote:
Wrong traitor snowflake. There was no legal right to secede. You, however, can renounce your citizenship and GTFOInvent something else.
You said weenie...
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dbackjon wrote:Snowflakes is more appropriate for those who can't stand the thought of anyone other than white, straight, Christian males in power - so most of the GOPIvytalk wrote: Liberal weenies are not allowed to use the term "Snowflake." That's cultural appropriation. Only conservatives are allowed to use that term, as it's applicable only to liberal weenies.
Snowflake is a term that Conks use to describe Donks and Donks are not allowed to appropriate it. That would hurt the feelings of the Conks who came up with this usage and we can't have a bunch of butt-hurt Conks stumbling around in tears. Misappropriation results in the offending Donk owing the aggrieved Conk a beverage of his/her choice if their paths should ever cross.That said, there are some pretty sensitive Conks out there and they need a similar but distinctive term of their own. Let's start a list:
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