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Team Trump can hear Mueller's footsteps and they're starting to panic.

Discussing preemptive pardoning and how to discredit Mueller.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f93ab6acc3


Trump's legal team in disarray.

Mark Corallo resigned.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-le ... d=48762642

Kasowitz is reportedly out as well:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Team Trump can hear Mueller's footsteps and they're starting to panic.

Discussing preemptive pardoning and how to discredit Mueller.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f93ab6acc3


Trump's legal team in disarray.

Mark Corallo resigned.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-le ... d=48762642

Kasowitz is reportedly out as well:
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Yeah! What could Trump's, Manafort'a, and Kushner's business deals with Russia possibly have to do with collusion with....

Russia???

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Team Trump can hear Mueller's footsteps and they're starting to panic.

Discussing preemptive pardoning and how to discredit Mueller.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f93ab6acc3


Trump's legal team in disarray.

Mark Corallo resigned.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-le ... d=48762642

Kasowitz is reportedly out as well:
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Hmmmm. Interesting leak. Something tells me it's from the WH

Makes his testimony at his confirmation hearing and testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee much closer to purjury.
Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials both in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.

One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he has no recollection of the April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.

Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. Senator that he met with Kislyak.

“I never had meetings with Russian operatives or Russian intermediaries about the Trump campaign,” Sessions said in March when he announced that he would recuse himself from matters relating to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the election and any connections to the Trump campaign.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Of course Mueller is taking a "wide-angled" and "overarching" approach to this investigation. These things seem to take on a life of their own, notwithstanding the purportedly limited scope of the original charge. Remember Patrick Fitzgerald? :roll:
Are you talking about Patrick Fitzgerald re: the Plame Affair? Seemed he stayed pretty close to the initial inquiry. How did he go out of bounds?

Ken Starr was all over the place, imo.

I don't think Mueller is going out of bounds here. You gotta look at the financials to understand what was going on between Russia and Trump & Co.

Trey Gowdy, now he went everywhere (and made up evidence to boot)
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Hmmmm. Interesting leak. Something tells me it's from the WH

Makes his testimony at his confirmation hearing and testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee much closer to purjury.
Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials both in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.

One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he has no recollection of the April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.

Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. Senator that he met with Kislyak.

“I never had meetings with Russian operatives or Russian intermediaries about the Trump campaign,” Sessions said in March when he announced that he would recuse himself from matters relating to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the election and any connections to the Trump campaign.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 1c02c28f4c
Why did so many in the administration keep lying about it? If not for legal troubles, fear of negative PR?
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I thought Obama said the Russians weren't a concern and we should give the 1980s their foreign policy back?


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Ibanez wrote:I thought Obama said the Russians weren't a concern and we should give the 1980s their foreign policy back?


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Ibanez wrote:I thought Obama said the Russians weren't a concern and we should give the 1980s their foreign policy back?


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Oh...he was talking about business deals, manipulation of elections, corruption, collusion?

That must have been Romney was referring to...
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Ibanez wrote:I thought Obama said the Russians weren't a concern and we should give the 1980s their foreign policy back?


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Oh...he was talking about business deals, manipulation of elections, corruption, collusion?

That must have been Romney was referring to...
Yes, among many other things, he was talking precisely about Russian geopolitics and interference, which is their bailiwick and always has been

But don't you worry your little head about it

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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Oh...he was talking about business deals, manipulation of elections, corruption, collusion?

That must have been Romney was referring to...
Yes, among many other things, he was talking precisely about Russian geopolitics and interference, which is their bailiwick and always has been

But don't you worry your little head about it

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Oh. So you agreed with Obama then?
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Yes, among many other things, he was talking precisely about Russian geopolitics and interference, which is their bailiwick and always has been

But don't you worry your little head about it

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Oh. So you agreed with Obama then?
No.

Whatever semantic angle you are working isn't working

But bless your heart


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kalm wrote:
Oh. So you agreed with Obama then?
No.

Whatever semantic angle you are working isn't working

But bless your heart


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No semantic angles, just trying to keep track of all your Russia positions, Vizzini. :lol:
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Obama probably regrets that and realizes how wrong he was. A lot changed after it. Maidan, Crimea, MH17, etc. But, he should have seen it coming.

He also could have responded more aggressively during the election. I'm sure he regrets that as well.

But, what about our current president that STILL denies what every single intelligence agency tells him? :suspicious: :wall:

I know y'all want to make everything about Hillary or Obama. But, you have to admit this is a more ridiculous position on Russia. :suspicious:
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Oh...he was talking about business deals, manipulation of elections, corruption, collusion?

That must have been Romney was referring to...
As if that stuff hasn't been happening for decades. :lol:
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Also, will be interesting to see if Trump signs this sanctions bill.

Pocket Veto seems likely. :coffee:
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No.

Whatever semantic angle you are working isn't working

But bless your heart


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No semantic angles, just trying to keep track of all your Russia positions, Vizzini. :lol:
Have I not always said that Russia is one of our most significant geopolitical adversaries (like Romney did and the Obama ridiculed him)?

I know you are thinking that I have also said that Russia is a natural ally- and they are

I realize you can't reconcile those two things in your own mind, but it's OK

I can do the heavy lifting for you


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
No semantic angles, just trying to keep track of all your Russia positions, Vizzini. :lol:
Have I not always said that Russia is one of our most significant geopolitical adversaries (like Romney did and the Obama ridiculed him)?

I know you are thinking that I have also said that Russia is a natural ally- and they are

I realize you can't reconcile those two things in your own mind, but it's OK

I can do the heavy lifting for you


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Ok. Thanks for the clarification!
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I can't imagine feeling like I had to defend this present dumpster fire administration...
The spinning and back tracking and rejigging is endless

only to have to start spinning all over again anew
after the next tweet or firing or resignation

Jeezus... :lol:
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Chizzang wrote:I can't imagine feeling like I had to defend this present dumpster fire administration...
The spinning and back tracking and rejigging is endless

only to have to start spinning all over again anew
after the next tweet or firing or resignation

Jeezus... :lol:
Well aside from the Comcast thing I know how to troll you up pretty easily now
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I can't imagine feeling like I had to defend this present dumpster fire administration...
The spinning and back tracking and rejigging is endless

only to have to start spinning all over again anew
after the next tweet or firing or resignation

Jeezus... :lol:
Well aside from the Comcast thing I know how to troll you up pretty easily now

How do you know you're talking to a Republican:

But Hilary
Everybody was doing it already
What is collusion anyway ..?
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