Why would somebody be embarrassed by Trump after what we had the last 8 years?Skjellyfetti wrote:I think he was asking about on this forum.
I think it's BDK and Alpha and that's it. Maybe Cluck as well, but he is MIA. Maybe some other that are too embarrassed to admit it.
Hmm. I think you have a typo. Did you mean new American't? New Americunt?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Welcome to the new Americant!
Votes and being liked are not the same. I'm guessing a good chunk of his popularity numbers are simply because he's not a Democrat.Chizzang wrote:I would argue Trump hasn't lost a single voter among his constituents...
Like I said, I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at how so many of my friends and acquaintances have become complete blathering idiots over Trump. I have a lot more close friends who are conservative and during the 8 years of Obama, only a couple became angry dolts. Now, every day I see people around me losing their shit.GannonFan wrote:Agreed, there are plenty of people that like Trump, and are perfectly happy with how he has performed in his first several months in office. That's the real divide that some people just can't seem to grasp - for all the people who are foaming at the mouth in abject fury over every single thing Trump does (doesn't matter what he actually does, he's the embodiment of evil to these folks so they despise everything he does), there's another person who is chuckling at the histrionics of the Trump-haters and is either genuinely happy with what Trump says and does (scary enough to think about) or doesn't really give a crap what Trump does but is happy from a nihilistic standpoint and sees this as just one big middle finger to the political establishment on either side of the aisle (scary as well). And unless the left finds somebody and possibly a message to run against him in the next election, or unless he dies before then (he would be the oldest elected President by 4 years if he lasts that long) this could extend to a second term.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Yes
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I don't know about thatIbanez wrote:Agreed. Cid, I've started hearing rumblings by a few DoS buddies of mine that Tillerson is thinking of jumping ship. What do you think?CID1990 wrote:Trump backstabs Sessions again, saying he only endorsed him because of the crowds he was drawing - not out of loyalty
Sessions endorsed Trump before anybody else in the Senate - he took a risk doing it. I'm no fan of Sessions in the role of AG, but this is a real cvnt move by Trump
It's also dumb. The Senate looks out for its own... even across the aisle
Trump starts impugning Sessions without cause and it will flip half of the Senate GOP against him
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No, it's just widely accepted we CAN'T do most things anymore so why try.Skjellyfetti wrote:Hmm. I think you have a typo. Did you mean new American't? New Americunt?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Welcome to the new Americant!
He flies in on a helicopter.....private landing pad.CID1990 wrote:I don't know about thatIbanez wrote:
Agreed. Cid, I've started hearing rumblings by a few DoS buddies of mine that Tillerson is thinking of jumping ship. What do you think?
What I do know is that the man needs more support inside the building but all he is getting is drama and unprofessional whining on social media
I think the pearl clutchers at Foggy Bottom need to consider how they'll like saying "Secretary Palin" or "Secretary Nugent"
BTW there's a lot of speculation over Tillerson taking a "break" next week, but I've been hearing for quite a while that he goes to Sturgis every year. That's probably what he's doing. He rode in Rolling Thunder a few weeks ago
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Trump's AmericaALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:No, it's just widely accepted we CAN'T do most things anymore so why try.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Hmm. I think you have a typo. Did you mean new American't? New Americunt?
AmeriCANT
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Welcome to the new reality. The Donks will express complete loyalty to whoever their 2020 champion is in response. Hooray!Chizzang wrote:I would argue Trump hasn't lost a single voter among his constituents...
You're reading comprehension is lacking. If BEFORE being confirmed Sessions knew he might have to recuse himself, then he should have declined the nomination to be AG, instead of recusing himself 20 days after being confirmed.Skjellyfetti wrote:Following DOJ recusal rules is a legit reason to fire an AG?
Ok.......
There's a # of things I don't like about Trump & the way some things have been handled. There's other things I do like about him, like:Skjellyfetti wrote:I think he was asking about on this forum.
I think it's BDK and Alpha and that's it. Maybe Cluck as well, but he is MIA. Maybe some other that are too embarrassed to admit it.
No. If you're a AG nominee and you know you might have immediately recuse yourself from a massive investigation that the new admin faces, you decline the nomination. Or at a minimum tell the POTUS: "Sir, I might/likely have to recuse myself" which would give the POTUS the opportunity to decide whether or not to reconsider the nomination.Skjellyfetti wrote:So, a willingness to follow DOJ recusal statutes is a good reason not to appoint someone as AG. And to be pissed at him.
But, not to fire him. Got it.
Rex already has a Cat Stevens record album named after him:CID1990 wrote:I don't know about thatIbanez wrote:
Agreed. Cid, I've started hearing rumblings by a few DoS buddies of mine that Tillerson is thinking of jumping ship. What do you think?
What I do know is that the man needs more support inside the building but all he is getting is drama and unprofessional whining on social media
I think the pearl clutchers at Foggy Bottom need to consider how they'll like saying "Secretary Palin" or "Secretary Nugent"
BTW there's a lot of speculation over Tillerson taking a "break" next week, but I've been hearing for quite a while that he goes to Sturgis every year. That's probably what he's doing. He rode in Rolling Thunder a few weeks ago
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Trump is making it great again......without the help of half this shithole countrySkjellyfetti wrote:Trump's AmericaALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:No, it's just widely accepted we CAN'T do most things anymore so why try.
AmeriCANT
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So what do you think a real man is? You think it's someone who lies all the time? Someone who cheats people? Someone who stabs his friends in the back? Someone who can't make a cogent argument about anything and so resorts to personal as well as childish attacks against the people he's trying to argue with? Someone who is 71 years old and acts like a 10 year old?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
What's really embarrassing is how so few of you can relate to real men anymore.
And do you believe it wouldn't be happening if Trump hadn't been elected President? You know, foreign companies do have manufacturing operations in the United States. They've had them for a long time. It's not a new thing.BDKJMU wrote:"Foxconn to build $10B plant in Wisconsin employing 13,000
In what's being called the largest economic development project in state history, Taiwanese electronics giant Foxconn plans to build a $10 billion plant in Wisconsin that would create liquid-crystal display panels and employ as many as 13,000 people, according to the White House and Gov. Scott Walker.
The planned Wisconsin plant is expected to open in 2020 and will be part of a 20 million square-foot campus on at least 1,000 acres -- a project Walker's administration has dubbed "Wisconn Valley."
The plant could be the first of several facilities the company wants to build in the United States, a senior White House official told reporters on Wednesday, and will start with 3,000 employees. The staff is planned to eventually grow by 10,000.
"It starts today with this investment in Wisconsin," Foxconn chairman Terry Gou said at announcement in Washington D.C. on Wednesday......."
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/ ... 44c82.html
Quit making shit upJohnStOnge wrote:So what do you think a real man is? You think it's someone who lies all the time? Someone who cheats people? Someone who stabs his friends in the back? Someone who can't make a cogent argument about anything and so resorts to personal as well as childish attacks against the people he's trying to argue with? Someone who is 71 years old and acts like a 10 year old?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
What's really embarrassing is how so few of you can relate to real men anymore.
Is that what you think a real man is? That's what Trump is. If you think that's what a real man is yeah it's true that I can't relate to what you think a real man is.
None of that is made up with respect to Trump and you know it. If that's what you think a "real man" is I hope you're not teaching that to your children if you have any.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Quit making **** upJohnStOnge wrote:
So what do you think a real man is? You think it's someone who lies all the time? Someone who cheats people? Someone who stabs his friends in the back? Someone who can't make a cogent argument about anything and so resorts to personal as well as childish attacks against the people he's trying to argue with? Someone who is 71 years old and acts like a 10 year old?
Is that what you think a real man is? That's what Trump is. If you think that's what a real man is yeah it's true that I can't relate to what you think a real man is.
Real men consider the economy over all other issuesJohnStOnge wrote:So what do you think a real man is? You think it's someone who lies all the time? Someone who cheats people? Someone who stabs his friends in the back? Someone who can't make a cogent argument about anything and so resorts to personal as well as childish attacks against the people he's trying to argue with? Someone who is 71 years old and acts like a 10 year old?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
What's really embarrassing is how so few of you can relate to real men anymore.
Is that what you think a real man is? That's what Trump is. If you think that's what a real man is yeah it's true that I can't relate to what you think a real man is.
I don't think you're serious in saying that. Also, I don't think you think Trump considers the economy over all other issues. I think Trump considers Trump over all other issues.CID1990 wrote:
Real men consider the economy over all other issues
JohnStOnge wrote:I don't think you're serious in saying that. Also, I don't think you think Trump considers the economy over all other issues. I think Trump considers Trump over all other issues.CID1990 wrote:
Real men consider the economy over all other issues
This is a guy who did that thing about John McCain not being a hero because he was captured when HE got a deferment by claiming he had bone spurs in his heel. That in a context wherein he claims that he could have played professional baseball if he wanted to coming out of high school. Google "Trump history of cheating contractors" and see what you get on the "cheating people" front. Ask Jeff Sessions about being stabbed in the back. Go to Youtube and look at him saying he hand picked the instructors then note that he later admitted in a deposition that he didn't. Or contemplate him saying the NFL wrote him a letter expressing concern about the debate schedule then having the NFL saying it didn't do that. Or think about a more significant lie that happened when Ted C r u z said he supported Lybian intervention and he said he didn't. You can Youtube that one too and see him advocating using our military directly to intervene.
Or just go to Politifact's Trump file without succumbing to the nonsense about it being biased because it doesn't tell Trump supporters what they want to hear.
Or for Pete's sake just watch his immature behavior at any point for about 10 minutes.
The idea that ANYBODY would hold Donald Trump out as an example of a "real man" is just flat awful. No decent Father trying to raise his son to be a "real man" would try to raise his son to be like Donald Trump.
JohnStOnge wrote:I don't think you're serious in saying that. Also, I don't think you think Trump considers the economy over all other issues. I think Trump considers Trump over all other issues.CID1990 wrote:
Real men consider the economy over all other issues
This is a guy who did that thing about John McCain not being a hero because he was captured when HE got a deferment by claiming he had bone spurs in his heel. That in a context wherein he claims that he could have played professional baseball if he wanted to coming out of high school. Google "Trump history of cheating contractors" and see what you get on the "cheating people" front. Ask Jeff Sessions about being stabbed in the back. Go to Youtube and look at him saying he hand picked the instructors then note that he later admitted in a deposition that he didn't. Or contemplate him saying the NFL wrote him a letter expressing concern about the debate schedule then having the NFL saying it didn't do that. Or think about a more significant lie that happened when Ted C r u z said he supported Lybian intervention and he said he didn't. You can Youtube that one too and see him advocating using our military directly to intervene.
Or just go to Politifact's Trump file without succumbing to the nonsense about it being biased because it doesn't tell Trump supporters what they want to hear.
Or for Pete's sake just watch his immature behavior at any point for about 10 minutes.
The idea that ANYBODY would hold Donald Trump out as an example of a "real man" is just flat awful. No decent Father trying to raise his son to be a "real man" would try to raise his son to be like Donald Trump.
