2nd Amendment (101)
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2nd Amendment (101)
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Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
kalm wrote:I want a bazooka. Thomas Jefferson told me I could have one.
You know... Mr. High Plains Drifter
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
That's right, he did. Or do you think he meant the people should fight bazookas with single shot muzzleloaders?kalm wrote:I want a bazooka. Thomas Jefferson told me I could have one.

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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
You're my favorite smug prick!Chizzang wrote:kalm wrote:I want a bazooka. Thomas Jefferson told me I could have one.
You know... Mr. High Plains Drifter
If you are nice I'll tell you the next time I'm in Spokane
And High Plains Drifter"?
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
Serious question: If they had to re-write today, do you think it would be exactly the same?89Hen wrote:That's right, he did. Or do you think he meant the people should fight bazookas with single shot muzzleloaders?kalm wrote:I want a bazooka. Thomas Jefferson told me I could have one.
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
Technology is technology......our founding fathers wanted us to have whatever the government has to retain our liberty.
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I admit that's a good argument.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Technology is technology......our founding fathers wanted us to have whatever the government has to retain our liberty.
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So it would be written exactly the same?
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I don't think anything written 200+ years ago would be written exactly the same today. But that's a non-starter.kalm wrote:Serious question: If they had to re-write today, do you think it would be exactly the same?89Hen wrote: That's right, he did. Or do you think he meant the people should fight bazookas with single shot muzzleloaders?

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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
+1ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Technology is technology......our founding fathers wanted us to have whatever the government has to retain our liberty.

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Do you think the founders didn't believe the world would change?89Hen wrote:I don't think anything written 200+ years ago would be written exactly the same today. But that's a non-starter.kalm wrote:
Serious question: If they had to re-write today, do you think it would be exactly the same?
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I'm really not sure what you're getting at here. I would say they did as "Arms" to me leaves it open ended to mean whatever is the weapon of the day.kalm wrote:Do you think the founders didn't believe the world would change?89Hen wrote: I don't think anything written 200+ years ago would be written exactly the same today. But that's a non-starter.

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Yes, I'm sure 89 thinks the founders thought the world would never change and be exactly like what it was in 1787.kalm wrote:Do you think the founders didn't believe the world would change?89Hen wrote: I don't think anything written 200+ years ago would be written exactly the same today. But that's a non-starter.
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You're always calling me radical... but, even the most conservative judges believe the Second Amendment is limited - that weapons that are "most useful in military service" may be banned (Scalia in Heller).89Hen wrote:+1ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Technology is technology......our founding fathers wanted us to have whatever the government has to retain our liberty.
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Is that so novel? I mean, the 1st Amendment isn't unlimited (Schenk).Skjellyfetti wrote:You're always calling me radical... but, even the most conservative judges believe the Second Amendment is limited - that weapons that are "most useful in military service" may be banned (Scalia in Heller).89Hen wrote: +1
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No. It's not novel at all. That's my point.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
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I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?Skjellyfetti wrote:No. It's not novel at all. That's my point.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.

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I don't think the leaders of today could come together enough to write anything like the original?kalm wrote:Serious question: If they had to re-write today, do you think it would be exactly the same?89Hen wrote: That's right, he did. Or do you think he meant the people should fight bazookas with single shot muzzleloaders?
There had to be give and take, and a will to thrive as a country.
A need for a limited central government, with many rights and protections for the citizens.
Lots of luck with our "evolved" thoughts of today.

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I have a mancrush today.89Hen wrote:I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?Skjellyfetti wrote:No. It's not novel at all. That's my point.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
So ricin and mustard gas should be legal?89Hen wrote:I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?Skjellyfetti wrote:No. It's not novel at all. That's my point.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
So in hyperbole, we should all have muskets?kalm wrote:So ricin and mustard gas should be legal?89Hen wrote: I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.

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Agreed. But FYI, the state isn't armed with bazookas. Hasn't been since early Nam..Carry on..89Hen wrote:I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?Skjellyfetti wrote:No. It's not novel at all. That's my point.
89 thinks that citizens should be able to have "whatever the government has." That's a pretty radical position for someone that thinks he's just a bit right of center.
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.
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Re: 2nd Amendment (101)
Pretty sure our military doesn't have/use that, so yeah.kalm wrote:So ricin and mustard gas should be legal?89Hen wrote: I think everyone has positions that are further left or right than they are. I voted for gay marriage in my state, does that mean I'm actually left of center?
I don't own guns, never have, probably never will. But that doesn't mean I don't think anyone shouldn't. There is no point to the 2nd Amendment if you are only allowed to be armed with a pea shooter while the state is armed with bazookas.




