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kalm wrote:Another take down by a seemingly reasoned journalist, UNI88's boy and Ivytalk classmate, Steve Chapman.

Oooof! :lol:
What do the directors of the Transportation Security Administration, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI have in common?

Easy question, you may think: They are all important law enforcement officials with roles in combating terrorism. But at the moment, they have nothing in common. Why? Because they don't exist.

The jobs, you see, are vacant. Each has to be filled by presidential appointment, and Donald Trump has felt no urgency in filling them. Only this week did he even offer names for the TSA and FBI.

That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger. In January, 47 U.S. attorneys resigned, and in March, he fired the remaining 46 federal prosecutors. So far, the president has yet to submit a nomination for any of the vacancies

The people who voted for Trump knew they would be getting a disrupter, a critic of business-as-usual and an enemy of political correctness. Many also realized they were electing a bully and a braggart. But they may not have known what they were getting above all else: an incompetent.........

There is no other way to explain most of what he has done in the White House. His most formidable opponent couldn't do half as much to foil Trump as Trump himself has done.

His travel policy was rushed out, blocked by courts, withdrawn, revised and blocked again. Administration lawyers, who hope to convince the Supreme Court it had no unconstitutional anti-Muslim motives, have been undercut by his tweets, which convey the opposite.

So flagrant is the contradiction that some analysts suspect he has a hidden logic. They speculate that Trump might prefer to lose his ban so he could blame the courts if there were a U.S. terrorist attack carried out by foreigners.

Let me suggest that they are overthinking this. Trump has no record of being deviously clever. He has a record of acting rashly out of ignorance, fury and hubris. He makes needless statements that harm his legal case because he's a self-destructive oaf.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html

Let's leave them vacant and see if it makes a difference...
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kalm wrote:Another take down by a seemingly reasoned journalist, UNI88's boy and Ivytalk classmate, Steve Chapman.

Oooof! :lol:
What do the directors of the Transportation Security Administration, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI have in common?

Easy question, you may think: They are all important law enforcement officials with roles in combating terrorism. But at the moment, they have nothing in common. Why? Because they don't exist.

The jobs, you see, are vacant. Each has to be filled by presidential appointment, and Donald Trump has felt no urgency in filling them. Only this week did he even offer names for the TSA and FBI.

That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger. In January, 47 U.S. attorneys resigned, and in March, he fired the remaining 46 federal prosecutors. So far, the president has yet to submit a nomination for any of the vacancies

The people who voted for Trump knew they would be getting a disrupter, a critic of business-as-usual and an enemy of political correctness. Many also realized they were electing a bully and a braggart. But they may not have known what they were getting above all else: an incompetent.........

There is no other way to explain most of what he has done in the White House. His most formidable opponent couldn't do half as much to foil Trump as Trump himself has done.

His travel policy was rushed out, blocked by courts, withdrawn, revised and blocked again. Administration lawyers, who hope to convince the Supreme Court it had no unconstitutional anti-Muslim motives, have been undercut by his tweets, which convey the opposite.

So flagrant is the contradiction that some analysts suspect he has a hidden logic. They speculate that Trump might prefer to lose his ban so he could blame the courts if there were a U.S. terrorist attack carried out by foreigners.

Let me suggest that they are overthinking this. Trump has no record of being deviously clever. He has a record of acting rashly out of ignorance, fury and hubris. He makes needless statements that harm his legal case because he's a self-destructive oaf.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html
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kalm wrote:Another take down by a seemingly reasoned journalist, UNI88's boy and Ivytalk classmate, Steve Chapman.

Oooof! :lol:
What do the directors of the Transportation Security Administration, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the FBI have in common?

Easy question, you may think: They are all important law enforcement officials with roles in combating terrorism. But at the moment, they have nothing in common. Why? Because they don't exist.

The jobs, you see, are vacant. Each has to be filled by presidential appointment, and Donald Trump has felt no urgency in filling them. Only this week did he even offer names for the TSA and FBI.

That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger. In January, 47 U.S. attorneys resigned, and in March, he fired the remaining 46 federal prosecutors. So far, the president has yet to submit a nomination for any of the vacancies

The people who voted for Trump knew they would be getting a disrupter, a critic of business-as-usual and an enemy of political correctness. Many also realized they were electing a bully and a braggart. But they may not have known what they were getting above all else: an incompetent.........

There is no other way to explain most of what he has done in the White House. His most formidable opponent couldn't do half as much to foil Trump as Trump himself has done.

His travel policy was rushed out, blocked by courts, withdrawn, revised and blocked again. Administration lawyers, who hope to convince the Supreme Court it had no unconstitutional anti-Muslim motives, have been undercut by his tweets, which convey the opposite.

So flagrant is the contradiction that some analysts suspect he has a hidden logic. They speculate that Trump might prefer to lose his ban so he could blame the courts if there were a U.S. terrorist attack carried out by foreigners.

Let me suggest that they are overthinking this. Trump has no record of being deviously clever. He has a record of acting rashly out of ignorance, fury and hubris. He makes needless statements that harm his legal case because he's a self-destructive oaf.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html
So a writer from the Chicago Tribune editorial board is critical of Trump. Shocking..
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houndawg wrote:
kalm wrote:Another take down by a seemingly reasoned journalist, UNI88's boy and Ivytalk classmate, Steve Chapman.

Oooof! :lol:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html

Let's leave them vacant and see if it makes a difference...
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:Another take down by a seemingly reasoned journalist, UNI88's boy and Ivytalk classmate, Steve Chapman.

Oooof! :lol:



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html
So a writer from the Chicago Tribune editorial board is critical of Trump. Shocking..
A writer who's been cited a number of times by UNI88 and Ivytalk and who gets carried sometimes by Reason.com.

Feel free to address the substance of the article...:coffee:
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kalm wrote:Feel free to address the substance of the article...:coffee:
I will...
That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger.
Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:Feel free to address the substance of the article...:coffee:
I will...
That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger.
Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Thank you 89,
Which proves a valuable point about CEO salaries in America

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: I will...



Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Thank you 89,
Which proves a valuable point about CEO salaries in America

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: I will...



Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Thank you 89,
Which proves a valuable point about CEO salaries in America

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I won't argue that. There are a lot of overpaid people in the world (and a lot of underpaid too).
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Thank you 89,
Which proves a valuable point about CEO salaries in America

:nod:
I won't argue that. There are a lot of overpaid people in the world (and a lot of underpaid too).
Hence $15 minimum wage..

:nod:

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: I won't argue that. There are a lot of overpaid people in the world (and a lot of underpaid too).
Hence $15 minimum wage..

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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:Feel free to address the substance of the article...:coffee:
I will...
That is not his only lapse when it comes to protecting Americans from danger.
Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Could be and it depends on the organization and the director. So organizations benefit from quality leadership. Some need a big toe.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: I will...



Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Could be and it depends on the organization and the director. So organizations benefit from quality leadership. Some need a big toe.
OK hot shot. We're gonna see what kind of leader you are.
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Most of these large corporations pay obscene CEO salaries to attract resumes that will not affect consumer confidence

It's all about share prices

There are a few people out there who will command any price they want in return for sticking their name at the head of the company letter

I know one.... I don't know if he's worth 300 million dollars, but when it comes to business sense, he does inspire a lot of confidence


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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
Could be and it depends on the organization and the director. So organizations benefit from quality leadership. Some need a big toe.
OK hot shot. We're gonna see what kind of leader you are.
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AZGrizFan wrote:No no no...I've been assured by my nieces that McCain only voted no to steal the thunder from the two FEMALE conks who ALSO voted no so a MAN could claim he killed the repeal...very important to all the male sexists out there, apparently, that McCain get credit and not a female.

He sure did want Trump to know who fvcked him....made Pence come crawling then gave him the thumb down.... I love this shit.... :thumb:
You love that McCain put his personal beef with Trump above those in America who are being screwed by Obamacare?
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houndawg wrote:

He sure did want Trump to know who fvcked him....made Pence come crawling then gave him the thumb down.... I love this shit.... :thumb:
You love that McCain put his personal beef with Trump above those in America who are being screwed by Obamacare?
He thought the Republican plans were worse. Pretty simple. If Republicans had a better plan... he would have voted for it. :thumb:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
You love that McCain put his personal beef with Trump above those in America who are being screwed by Obamacare?
He thought the Republican plans were worse. Pretty simple. If Republicans had a better plan... he would have voted for it. :thumb:
He didn't have enough pull over eight years to help come up with a plan he could support? This speaks very poorly of McCain.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
He thought the Republican plans were worse. Pretty simple. If Republicans had a better plan... he would have voted for it. :thumb:
He didn't have enough pull over eight years to help come up with a plan he could support? This speaks very poorly of McCain.
No one in the Republican Party did. This speaks very poorly of the Republican Party.
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SeattleGriz wrote: He didn't have enough pull over eight years to help come up with a plan he could support? This speaks very poorly of McCain.
No one in the Republican Party did. This speaks very poorly of the Republican Party.
Agreed. It's why I wanted Trump to win. Funny, but my "retribution" was aimed at Reps and not Dems.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
He thought the Republican plans were worse. Pretty simple. If Republicans had a better plan... he would have voted for it. :thumb:
He didn't have enough pull over eight years to help come up with a plan he could support? This speaks very poorly of McCain.
He was too busy with his fits of fauxrage over everything Obama did or said.
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I can't wait for McCain to die, I'm going to live stream the party I have celebrating that scumbag is gone

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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: I will...



Is he really implying that the agencies stop working without a director? I'd be willing to wager you'd find a lot of people in those agencies who might say they work better without one.
Could be and it depends on the organization and the director. So organizations benefit from quality leadership. Some need a big toe.
Sergeant Hulka?

BDK, the Trib is a center right leaning paper. And while I usually agree with Chapman and he makes some valid points in this piece he has demonstrated a definite dislike for all things Trump and can go off the rails occasionally as a result.

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Trump needs to start firing people even if they were not involved. Set the tone and gut the government
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Tribune is hack material. Was there two week ago.
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