The End of Identity Liberalism

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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Yup, all those union households in the Rust Belt that voted Trump were definitely thinking about Hilldogs email server and not the fact that the Donk agenda has been sending their jobs overseas. Nailed it again JSO. :dunce:
Hornet, he would not have beaten Obama in Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin. No way.

And BTW, the exit poll estimates are that Clinton beat Trump among Union households by 53% to 40% in Michigian, by 53% to 43% in Wisconsin. For some reason they don't have estimates for Pennsylvania. But the Michigan and Wisconsin estimated margins for Clinton among Union Households were actually slightly larger then the national margin. The national margin for Clinton among Union Households was 51% to 42%.

Just another example of the mythology surrounding the Trump win. You know, like the myth that it was the economy.

Wisconsin is particularly interesting. The estimate is that Clinton won Union households by 53% to 43%. But Trump won NON Union households by 52% to 44%.
Except Trump wasn't going up against Obama, he was going up against hildacunt. So not sure what relevance your first statement has. :?

And thanks for proving my point with the union household numbers. Those go what, typically 80-20 in favor of the donks in those states? Trump essentially made them a coin flip thanks to the broken donk economic agenda that has gutted those middle class jobs.

Love that you are still butt hurt over Trump stomping on your conservative candidates in the primaries and then crushing your girl hildacunt this past November. :lol:
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

So... The Donk agenda has been sending Rust Belt Jobs over seas...?
You seem to be confusing Wall Street Profit driven Capitalism with "Donk Agenda"

I'll explain how this works if you'd like

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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Yes,
I define the "economy" as Wall Street
Because according to US Corporations Wall Street is the ONLY THING that matters
Until that changes (and that won't change) I stand on that measuring stick

And all those words up there you posted about stagnant wages vs. cost of living
and housing prices skyrocketing in job markets
all I have to say about that is what EVERY Conservative Republican and Ayn Rand says

Work harder and Boot Straps
We're too fat and too lazy

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I knew that was how you were quantifying it and that's why I brought it up-

You're being coy and misleading and frankly smug prick fits you better

Coy and misleading is klam's shtick and he's better at it than you
Enter CID, the populist.

other than that, i have no idea what youre talking about...
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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SDHornet wrote: Except Trump wasn't going up against Obama, he was going up against hildacunt. So not sure what relevance your first statement has. :?
We're in a thread about an article that talks about how the Democratic Party's use of "identity liberalism" is what got HIllary Clinton beaten. I posted that that's not what got her beat. Had Obama been able to run again the same "identity Liberalism" would have been deployed. And he would've crushed Trump.

I said that Clinton making that decision to have a private e mail server was a lot bigger factor in her getting beaten than "Identity Liberalism" was. And I do think she'd have won the election easily if she hadn't made that fateful decision years back. You seem to think Trump would've won anyway. I do not.

In any case it "identity Liberalism" isn't the reason for the Democrat not winning the Presidential election.
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Except Trump wasn't going up against Obama, he was going up against hildacunt. So not sure what relevance your first statement has. :?
We're in a thread about an article that talks about how the Democratic Party's use of "identity liberalism" is what got HIllary Clinton beaten. I posted that that's not what got her beat. Had Obama been able to run again the same "identity Liberalism" would have been deployed. And he would've crushed Trump.

I said that Clinton making that decision to have a private e mail server was a lot bigger factor in her getting beaten than "Identity Liberalism" was. And I do think she'd have won the election easily if she hadn't made that fateful decision years back. You seem to think Trump would've won anyway. I do not.

In any case it "identity Liberalism" isn't the reason for the Democrat not winning the Presidential election.
They lost because they nominated a republican. :coffee:
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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Keith Ellison didn't get the memo that identity politics are poisonous.

He's calling for the DNC to embrace "intersectionality"

Translation: let's mainstream our radical side
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CID1990 wrote:Keith Ellison didn't get the memo that identity politics are poisonous.

He's calling for the DNC to embrace "intersectionality"

Translation: let's mainstream our radical side
What? I thought the lefties and greens were going to come crawling back in time to vote for Hillary....
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Slow down there before you hurt yourself

80% of America's population lives in States with strong or booming economies...

West Virginia and Arkansas et. al. can move an electoral college
even though they constitute a marginal portion of the population

:nod:

That's all I'm saying
The states that swung the election indeed have sh!t economies

But America does NOT have a sh!t economy
America is booming
Booming. 1.5% GDP growth is the new norm, apparently. :dunce:
For most of the country, that may be so...but there are areas that are projected to see much better...

http://www.cbsnews.com/media/9-counties ... growth/10/

But remember this...the same folks that did this study also projected that the US economy would lose $1 TRILLION if Trump was elected president...
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