Just an observation about "white nationalism"

[Pwns]

I've done some lurking at Stormfront (the same way I lurk at places like DU and Salon) and read some things people like David Duke and Richard Spencer write, and there is one clear trend with modern day "Nazi" (call it whatever you want) ideology:

It's more of a victim ideology than it is a hate ideology. Almost all of their catch phrases and tenets have to do with protecting the white race from one thing or another and not sending any group of people on the trains to be gassed.

Here's some of their catchphrases:
1. "The 14 words" - "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
2. "Anti Racist is a code-word for anti-white."
3. "Diversity is White Genocide"/"Stop White genocide"
4. The protestors in Charlottesville chanting "You will not erase us" and "white lives matter".
5. David Duke frequently using the term "Jewish supremacist".

I have yet to see anything about rounding up the joos.

Point being: What people refer to "white nationalists" or "neo-nazis" are much more like Black Lives Matter and less like the Third Reich than many care to admit.

It was only a matter of time before a subset of white people decided to try and cash in on the lucrative Oppression Olympics to get followers to buy into some cause.

[Silenoz]

That's what's so hilarious about the feud here between Jon and _____ (name withheld so I don't trigger him again); they're fucking mirror images of one another

[∞∞∞]

I check up on Stormfront too and I completely disagree with your assessment. I'm not going to get into it, but SF has multiple layers to the website (user-only threads, hidden threads, and a dark-web live/coordination chat that has some of the most terrifying rhetoric you can imagine). Their constant fundraisers aren't simply for hosting SF...it's for a multitude of other items. A few years ago their largest donors figured SF was always in danger of losing its hosting service, so they invested into infrastructure on the dark-web which the most seasoned and trusted members use.

SF is simply the face of their ideology; it's the site they use to gain sympathy from people "just browsing."

[Silenoz]

I check up on Stormfront too and I completely disagree with your assessment. I'm not going to get into it, but SF has multiple layers to the website (user-only threads, hidden threads, and a dark-web live/coordination chat that has some of the most terrifying rhetoric you can imagine). Their constant fundraisers aren't simply for hosting SF...it's for a multitude of other items. A few years ago their largest donors figured SF was always in danger of losing its hosting service, so they invested into infrastructure on the dark-web which the most seasoned and trusted members use.

SF is simply the face of their ideology; it's the site they use to gain sympathy from people "just browsing."

Any population will have subsection of true psychopaths

[dbackjon]

Wow - you are so far off the mark it is not even funny, Pwn.

[dbackjon]

To say it is no different than a site like DU means you either aren't really looking, or you don't understand it.

[Pwns]

To say it is no different than a site like DU means you either aren't really looking, or you don't understand it.

The only reason I mentioned Salon and DU is to preempt the "wow why are you lurking on white nationalists sites" type comment.

DU does have some good discussions and interesting links and definitely has a bigger tent than Stormfront, but it has a lot of Froot Loops, too.

[Chizzang]

Wow - you are so far off the mark it is not even funny, Pwn.

Jon,
He's not THAT far off the mark
Just exhale and read what he's saying without any emotion or attachment

I'm pretty damn liberal and my ONE experience with Black Lives Matter was actually pretty frightening

[CID1990]

What "hate" ideology ISN'T a victim ideology?

Read: Mein Kampf and any literature ever put out by the Nazis

The assessment is spot on.

Nobody is EVER to blame for their own lot. All the way back to some hunter gatherer saying, "those people over there are why the deer are gone."

[kalm]

What "hate" ideology ISN'T a victim ideology?

Read: Mein Kampf and any literature ever put out by the Nazis

The assessment is spot on.

Nobody is EVER to blame for their own lot. All the way back to some hunter gatherer saying, "those people over there are why the deer are gone."

And labels...I'm white and believe in protectionist trade policies, so...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I've done some lurking at Stormfront (the same way I lurk at places like DU and Salon) and read some things people like David Duke and Richard Spencer write, and there is one clear trend with modern day "Nazi" (call it whatever you want) ideology:

It's more of a victim ideology than it is a hate ideology. Almost all of their catch phrases and tenets have to do with protecting the white race from one thing or another and not sending any group of people on the trains to be gassed.

Here's some of their catchphrases:
1. "The 14 words" - "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
2. "Anti Racist is a code-word for anti-white."
3. "Diversity is White Genocide"/"Stop White genocide"
4. The protestors in Charlottesville chanting "You will not erase us" and "white lives matter".
5. David Duke frequently using the term "Jewish supremacist".

I have yet to see anything about rounding up the joos.

Point being: What people refer to "white nationalists" or "neo-nazis" are much more like Black Lives Matter and less like the Third Reich than many care to admit.

It was only a matter of time before a subset of white people decided to try and cash in on the lucrative Oppression Olympics to get followers to buy into some cause.

You nailed it, walk off home run.

The left doesn't get to dictate what other do or say. They try intimidation tactics and then cry about the consequences of their actions. Just like BLM and just like gay pride parades, no different than Antifa, Nazis or ISIS

[Jjoey52]

Jon, it appears from your postings that you are a part of the insist on tolerance crowd, which is the most intolerable of all.


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[kalm]

I've done some lurking at Stormfront (the same way I lurk at places like DU and Salon) and read some things people like David Duke and Richard Spencer write, and there is one clear trend with modern day "Nazi" (call it whatever you want) ideology:

It's more of a victim ideology than it is a hate ideology. Almost all of their catch phrases and tenets have to do with protecting the white race from one thing or another and not sending any group of people on the trains to be gassed.

Here's some of their catchphrases:
1. "The 14 words" - "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
2. "Anti Racist is a code-word for anti-white."
3. "Diversity is White Genocide"/"Stop White genocide"
4. The protestors in Charlottesville chanting "You will not erase us" and "white lives matter".
5. David Duke frequently using the term "Jewish supremacist".

I have yet to see anything about rounding up the joos.

Point being: What people refer to "white nationalists" or "neo-nazis" are much more like Black Lives Matter and less like the Third Reich than many care to admit.

It was only a matter of time before a subset of white people decided to try and cash in on the lucrative Oppression Olympics to get followers to buy into some cause.

You nailed it, walk off home run.

The left doesn't get to dictate what other do or say. They try intimidation tactics and then cry about the consequences of their actions. Just like BLM and just like gay pride parades, no different than Antifa, Nazis or ISIS

Shut up or else I'll go the way of Division 1 Boy and threaten retirement!

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Nope, if I have to listen to the left and their violent bullshit then you WILL listen to mine.