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Its because Mueller is looking to see if Trump knew what the meeting was about beforehand, after apparently vetting the "adoptions" story after the fact. That would be material to a conspiracy investigation - but there is still nothing to indicate that they are linking this to collusion
Conspiracy to do what?

Why would he haul Rinat Akhmetshin before the Grand Jury? What's else is he investigating there?
Full text of the [FT article](https://www.ft.com/content/eb36aed6-8d8 ... 6f43c5825d):

> Rinat Akhmetshin, the lobbyist and former Soviet army officer who met senior Trump campaign aides at a controversial meeting last year, has given evidence before a grand jury investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter. 

> Mr Akhmetshin gave testimony under oath for several hours on Friday August 11, in a sign that special counsel Robert Mueller is looking at the 2016 meeting as part of his investigation into links between Donald Trump’s election campaign and Russia.
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CID1990 wrote:
Its because Mueller is looking to see if Trump knew what the meeting was about beforehand, after apparently vetting the "adoptions" story after the fact. That would be material to a conspiracy investigation - but there is still nothing to indicate that they are linking this to collusion
Conspiracy to do what?

Why would he haul Rinat Akhmetshin before the Grand Jury? What's else is he investigating there?
Full text of the [FT article](https://www.ft.com/content/eb36aed6-8d8 ... 6f43c5825d):

> Rinat Akhmetshin, the lobbyist and former Soviet army officer who met senior Trump campaign aides at a controversial meeting last year, has given evidence before a grand jury investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter. 

> Mr Akhmetshin gave testimony under oath for several hours on Friday August 11, in a sign that special counsel Robert Mueller is looking at the 2016 meeting as part of his investigation into links between Donald Trump’s election campaign and Russia.
I guess we'll find out won't we?


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Which is their choice to support an anti=American traitor, just acknowledge that you are ok with it, just like they where ok supporting a pussy-grabbing, narcissistic, fraudster who is unqualified, is destroying America, and only cares if you are rich and related to him.
Yeah, but Bill Clinton is lauded by the Left and seated at the Left hand of the Father...Obama. :coffee: How many pussies did that guy grab?


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Well, now we know why Trump Jr. said Manafort was "on his phone the whole time" during the meeting. He was taking notes. :lol:

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Hope the whole notes are made public at some point...
Manafort Notes From Russian Meet Contain Cryptic Reference to ‘Donations’

Paul Manafort's notes from a controversial Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign included the word "donations," near a reference to the Republican National Committee, two sources briefed on the evidence told NBC News.

The references, which have not been previously disclosed, elevated the significance of the June 2016 meeting for congressional investigators, who are focused on determining whether it included any discussion of donations from Russian sources to either the Trump campaign or the Republican Party.

It is illegal for foreigners to donate to American elections. The meeting happened just as Trump had secured the Republican nomination for president, and he was considered a longshot to win. Manafort was the campaign chairman at the time.

Manafort's notes, typed on a smart phone and described by one briefed source as cryptic, were turned over to the House and Senate intelligence committees and to Special Counsel Robert Mueller. They contained the words "donations," and "RNC" in close proximity, the sources said.

As NBC News has reported, Mueller is also closely scrutinizing the Trump Tower meeting, which was hosted by President Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., and was attended by his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, along with Manafort.

They gathered in an office to hear from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who has represented clients with links to the Kremlin.

She was accompanied by Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, who testified recently before a grand jury in Washington, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

Akhmetshin declined to comment on his testimony. A spokesman for Manafort did not respond to a request for comment.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, now we know why Trump Jr. said Manafort was "on his phone the whole time" during the meeting. He was taking notes. :lol:

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Hope the whole notes are made public at some point...
Manafort Notes From Russian Meet Contain Cryptic Reference to ‘Donations’

Paul Manafort's notes from a controversial Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign included the word "donations," near a reference to the Republican National Committee, two sources briefed on the evidence told NBC News.

The references, which have not been previously disclosed, elevated the significance of the June 2016 meeting for congressional investigators, who are focused on determining whether it included any discussion of donations from Russian sources to either the Trump campaign or the Republican Party.

It is illegal for foreigners to donate to American elections. The meeting happened just as Trump had secured the Republican nomination for president, and he was considered a longshot to win. Manafort was the campaign chairman at the time.

Manafort's notes, typed on a smart phone and described by one briefed source as cryptic, were turned over to the House and Senate intelligence committees and to Special Counsel Robert Mueller. They contained the words "donations," and "RNC" in close proximity, the sources said.

As NBC News has reported, Mueller is also closely scrutinizing the Trump Tower meeting, which was hosted by President Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., and was attended by his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, along with Manafort.

They gathered in an office to hear from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who has represented clients with links to the Kremlin.

She was accompanied by Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, who testified recently before a grand jury in Washington, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

Akhmetshin declined to comment on his testimony. A spokesman for Manafort did not respond to a request for comment.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ma ... ns-n797816
Yes, we all know that if you're a foreigner and you want to make contributions to a campaign, the contributions have to go through a "foundation" and not directly to the campaign. Such rookies. :ohno:
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The absolute hilarity of this thing as it unfolds has been priceless...
and now the IRS is involved and we all know how good those guys are at witch hunts

This is going to be an complete nightmare for the Trump brand

As Ivy said, this has become a Tar Baby and opened Pandora's Box into Trumps secret world
A world that when he wasn't president he could use his legal team to protect
and NOW the box has been kicked open... and the worms are spilling out

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But, it's a "nothingburger" that will end with Flynn with a slap-on-the-wrist for FARA violations and that's about it. :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:But, it's a "nothingburger" that will end with Flynn with a slap-on-the-wrist for FARA violations and that's about it. :coffee:

The IRS is the only thing the whole wide world that frightens Trump...
Besides the potential fading love and adoration of his fans

But mostly the IRS

and now they're smack dab in the middle of his life
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Skjellyfetti wrote:But, it's a "nothingburger" that will end with Flynn with a slap-on-the-wrist for FARA violations and that's about it. :coffee:

The IRS is the only thing the whole wide world that frightens Trump...
Besides the potential fading love and adoration of his fans

But mostly the IRS

and now they're smack dab in the middle of his life
He's plotting his endgame.

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If Don McGahn had strong objections to this letter... it had to have been pretty bad. :lol:
Mueller Has Early Draft of Trump Letter Giving Reasons for Firing Comey

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter that President Trump and a top political aide drafted in the days before Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, which explains the president’s rationale for why he planned to dismiss the director.

The May letter had been met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that some of its contents were problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter.

Mr. McGahn successfully blocked the president from sending Mr. Comey the letter, which Mr. Trump had composed with Stephen Miller, one of the president’s top political advisers. A different letter, written by the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, and focused on Mr. Comey’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, was ultimately sent to the F.B.I. director on the day he was fired.

The contents of the original letter appear to provide the clearest rationale that Mr. Trump had for firing Mr. Comey. The Times has not seen a copy of the letter and it is unclear how much of Mr. Trump’s rationale focuses on the Russia investigation. Mr. Trump told aides at the time he was angry that Mr. Comey refused to publicly say that Mr. Trump himself was not under investigation, something Mr. Comey had told the president privately.

Mr. Comey later confirmed in testimony to Congress in June that he had told the president that he was not under investigation, but said he didn’t make that public because the status could change in the future.

Mr. Mueller is conducting a wide-ranging investigation into Russia and associates of Mr. Trump, including whether the president obstructed justice when he dismissed the F.B.I. director.

The Justice Department turned over a copy of the letter to Mr. Mueller in recent weeks.

Ty Cobb, a White House lawyer, declined to discuss the letter or its contents. “To the extent the special prosecutor is interested in these matters, we will be fully transparent with him,’’ he said.

Mr. Miller drafted the letter at the urging of Mr. Trump during a weekend in May, when Mr. Trump and his team were at the president’s private golf club in Bedminster, N.J. During that same weekend, as Mr. Trump and a small group of aides were in Bedminster devising a rationale for Mr. Comey’s dismissal, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein were working on a parallel effort to fire Mr. Comey.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/p ... etter.html
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Skjellyfetti wrote:But, it's a "nothingburger" that will end with Flynn with a slap-on-the-wrist for FARA violations and that's about it. :coffee:
Wait -

So Trump and Co DID collude with the Russians to throw the election?

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Chizzang wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:But, it's a "nothingburger" that will end with Flynn with a slap-on-the-wrist for FARA violations and that's about it. :coffee:

The IRS is the only thing the whole wide world that frightens Trump...
Besides the potential fading love and adoration of his fans

But mostly the IRS

and now they're smack dab in the middle of his life
How the IRS hasn't been on to him for years - and how his info wasn't leaked about this time last year is a complete mystery to me

I'm sure he's been closely scrutinized for a long time now - but once they can piggyback on someone with a grand jury.... I'll bet there's a cubicle or two at the IRS dedicated to Trump, and has been for years. Whoever occupies it has to be creaming their jeans about now
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

The IRS is the only thing the whole wide world that frightens Trump...
Besides the potential fading love and adoration of his fans

But mostly the IRS

and now they're smack dab in the middle of his life
How the IRS hasn't been on to him for years - and how his info wasn't leaked about this time last year is a complete mystery to me

I'm sure he's been closely scrutinized for a long time now - but once they can piggyback on someone with a grand jury.... I'll bet there's a cubicle or two at the IRS dedicated to Trump, and has been for years. Whoever occupies it has to be creaming their jeans about now
You know it...
I'm told Trump has a really savvy army of Lawyers (Obviously not a surprise there)
So they've been able to keep the IRS bogged down and tied up and twisted in knots for two decades

But they want him bad
And now they're being handed the Golden Goose on a platter

and this is why Trump should have never run
This scenario that is happening right now
He should have just sat on his Billion and played golf and tweeted how awful Obama is

But he couldn't resist
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
How the IRS hasn't been on to him for years - and how his info wasn't leaked about this time last year is a complete mystery to me

I'm sure he's been closely scrutinized for a long time now - but once they can piggyback on someone with a grand jury.... I'll bet there's a cubicle or two at the IRS dedicated to Trump, and has been for years. Whoever occupies it has to be creaming their jeans about now
You know it...
I'm told Trump has a really savvy army of Lawyers (Obviously not a surprise there)
So they've been able to keep the IRS bogged down and tied up and twisted in knots for two decades

But they want him bad
And now they're being handed the Golden Goose on a platter

and this is why Trump should have never run
This scenario that is happening right now
He should have just sat on his Billion and played golf and tweeted how awful Obama is

But he couldn't resist
To spend what he does on lawyers and then not listen to them takes somebody special.

Not in my lifetime has there been anyone in the office this entertaining. :clap:

How does it get better than Trump publicly humiliating turds like Sessions or Christie or especially McConnell?
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Not the best defense, Donnie. :rofl:
Trump Jr. Says He Wanted Russian Dirt to Determine Clinton’s ‘Fitness’ for Office

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump Jr. told Senate investigators on Thursday that he set up a June 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer because he was intrigued that she might have damaging information about Hillary Clinton, saying it was important to learn about Mrs. Clinton’s “fitness” to be president.

But nothing came of the Trump Tower meeting, he said, and he was adamant that he never colluded with the Russian government’s campaign to disrupt last year’s presidential election.

In a prepared statement during an interview with Senate Judiciary Committee investigators, the younger Mr. Trump said he was initially conflicted when he heard that the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, might have damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Despite his interest, he said, he always intended to consult with his own lawyers about the propriety of using any information that Ms. Veselnitskaya, who has ties to the Kremlin, gave him at the meeting.

A copy of Mr. Trump’s statement was obtained by The New York Times.

The acknowledgment by the president’s eldest son that he intended to seek legal counsel after the meeting suggests that he knew, or at least suspected, that accepting potentially damaging information about a rival campaign from a foreign country raised thorny legal issues.

“To the extent they had information concerning the fitness, character or qualifications of a presidential candidate, I believed that I should at least hear them out,” he said. “Depending on what, if any, information they had, I could then consult with counsel to make an informed decision as to whether to give it further consideration.”

Mr. Trump sat down with committee investigators in the Capitol shortly before 9:30 a.m. and was expected to remain under questioning for several hours. The interview was being conducted by staff, but a handful of Democratic senators attended.

Mr. Trump entered the Capitol under cover and did not speak with reporters.

The June 2016 meeting came about after the younger Mr. Trump received an email from a family associate saying that potentially damaging information was being provided as part of the Russian government’s support for his father. But in his statement on Thursday, he described his decision to agree to the meeting as the byproduct of the chaotic, seat-of-the pants campaign assembled by his father, rather than any attempt to collude with Russia.
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Spicer, Priebus, Hicks among current, former Trump aides Mueller eyes interviewing for Russia probe

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has alerted the White House that his team will probably seek to interview six top current and former advisers to President Trump who were witnesses to several episodes relevant to the investigation of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the request.

Mueller’s interest in the aides, including trusted adviser Hope Hicks, former press secretary Sean Spicer and former chief of staff Reince Priebus, reflects how the probe that has dogged Trump’s presidency is starting to penetrate a closer circle of aides around the president.

Each of the six advisers was privy to important internal discussions that have drawn the interest of Mueller’s investigators, including his decision in May to fire FBI Director James B. Comey and the White House’s initial inaction following warnings that then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had withheld information from the public about his private discussions in December with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, according to people familiar with the probe.

The advisers are also connected to internal documents that Mueller’s investigators have asked the White House to produce, according to people familiar with the special counsel’s inquiry.

Roughly four weeks ago, the special counsel’s team provided the White House with the names of the first group of current and former Trump advisers and aides whom investigators expect to question.

In addition to Priebus, Spicer and Hicks, Mueller has notified the White House he will probably seek to question White House counsel Don McGahn and one of his deputies, James Burnham. Mueller’s office has also told the White House that investigators may want to interview Josh Raffel, a White House spokesman who works closely with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.

White House officials are expecting that Mueller will seek additional interviews, possibly with family members, including Kushner, who is a West Wing senior adviser, according to the people familiar with Mueller’s inquiry.

Mueller’s probe is seeking to determine whether any Trump associates may have coordinated with Russia to influence the election. That investigation is also examining whether the president or others at the White House may have attempted to obstruct justice leading up to the firing of Comey.

Spicer declined to comment, and Priebus did not respond to a request for comment.
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Spicer, Priebus, Hicks among current, former Trump aides Mueller eyes interviewing for Russia probe

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has alerted the White House that his team will probably seek to interview six top current and former advisers to President Trump who were witnesses to several episodes relevant to the investigation of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the request.

Mueller’s interest in the aides, including trusted adviser Hope Hicks, former press secretary Sean Spicer and former chief of staff Reince Priebus, reflects how the probe that has dogged Trump’s presidency is starting to penetrate a closer circle of aides around the president.

Each of the six advisers was privy to important internal discussions that have drawn the interest of Mueller’s investigators, including his decision in May to fire FBI Director James B. Comey and the White House’s initial inaction following warnings that then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had withheld information from the public about his private discussions in December with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, according to people familiar with the probe.

The advisers are also connected to internal documents that Mueller’s investigators have asked the White House to produce, according to people familiar with the special counsel’s inquiry.

Roughly four weeks ago, the special counsel’s team provided the White House with the names of the first group of current and former Trump advisers and aides whom investigators expect to question.

In addition to Priebus, Spicer and Hicks, Mueller has notified the White House he will probably seek to question White House counsel Don McGahn and one of his deputies, James Burnham. Mueller’s office has also told the White House that investigators may want to interview Josh Raffel, a White House spokesman who works closely with Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.

White House officials are expecting that Mueller will seek additional interviews, possibly with family members, including Kushner, who is a West Wing senior adviser, according to the people familiar with Mueller’s inquiry.

Mueller’s probe is seeking to determine whether any Trump associates may have coordinated with Russia to influence the election. That investigation is also examining whether the president or others at the White House may have attempted to obstruct justice leading up to the firing of Comey.

Spicer declined to comment, and Priebus did not respond to a request for comment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 522aa2f67d
Spicer is now considered a "close aide"? Given how ridiculous he looked when meeting the press, what makes anyone think that Spicer was privy to anything?
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Well, it doesn't say "close aide" in the article... so, not sure why you're taking an exception to the characterization of him as a "close aide" :lol:

The "why" is also explained in the article:
Each of the six advisers was privy to important internal discussions that have drawn the interest of Mueller’s investigators, including his decision in May to fire FBI Director James B. Comey and the White House’s initial inaction following warnings that then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had withheld information from the public about his private discussions in December with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, according to people familiar with the probe.

The advisers are also connected to internal documents that Mueller’s investigators have asked the White House to produce, according to people familiar with the special counsel’s inquiry.
If he wasn't privy to anything - he can have a quick and easy meeting with Mueller's Justice League. :thumb:

Just hope these guys get their stories straight. :D
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MUELLER IS ‘GOING FOR THE KILL’ ON TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION, REPUBLICANS BELIEVE: REPORT

Republicans with close links to the White House increasingly believe that special counsel Robert Mueller is “going for the kill” in his investigation into links between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to a report from Axios Tuesday.

Members of the GOP are said to have come to that stark conclusion based on Mueller’s hiring of lawyers experienced in dealing with money laundering crimes and the Mafia, as well as the intensity of his pursuit of both witnesses and evidence.

Trump has previously warned that investigation of his financial dealings is a red line that Mueller should not cross. But that is thought to be exactly what Mueller is doing, including looking into a proposal made during the 2016 campaign to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

The new report comes just days after Trump’s former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, told CBS’s 60 Minutes that Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey, which he called the worst mistake in “modern political history,” led directly to the appointment of Mueller to oversee the investigation.

Mueller’s probe appears to have stepped up in recent weeks. It was reported last month that he had impaneled a federal grand jury in Washington and has issued subpoenas related to a meeting Donald Trump Jr. held with a Russian-government-linked lawyer in June 2016. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, as well as his then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, were also at the meeting. Last week, Trump Jr. was interviewed behind closed doors by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Such is the scale of Mueller’s investigation that legal fees for those coming under the probe’s focus are mounting sharply, to the extent that outside legal defense funds could soon be necessary, Axios reports. More Trump aides are said to have lawyered up in response to a draft letter from Trump explaining his reasons for firing Comey, which was never sent and has not been published but has been obtained by Mueller. The letter was handed out to several White House officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, according to The New York Times.

Despite Trump’s repeated insistence that he has been told he is not personally under investigation, the president is possibly facing very real personal consequences. Based on conversations with White House aides, Axios says that Mueller is narrowing in on a possible charge of obstruction of justice against the president.

While the details of the original letter have yet to be disclosed, Trump undermined his legally refined reasons for dismissing Comey when he told NBC News that he did so with the Russia investigation in mind.

Despite all of this, Trump is not thought to be considering firing Mueller, according to Axios. Doing so, Trump associates said, would be as bad as “firing the pope.”
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MUELLER IS ‘GOING FOR THE KILL’ ON TRUMP-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION, REPUBLICANS BELIEVE: REPORT

Republicans with close links to the White House increasingly believe that special counsel Robert Mueller is “going for the kill” in his investigation into links between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to a report from Axios Tuesday.

Members of the GOP are said to have come to that stark conclusion based on Mueller’s hiring of lawyers experienced in dealing with money laundering crimes and the Mafia, as well as the intensity of his pursuit of both witnesses and evidence.

Trump has previously warned that investigation of his financial dealings is a red line that Mueller should not cross. But that is thought to be exactly what Mueller is doing, including looking into a proposal made during the 2016 campaign to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

The new report comes just days after Trump’s former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, told CBS’s 60 Minutes that Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey, which he called the worst mistake in “modern political history,” led directly to the appointment of Mueller to oversee the investigation.

Mueller’s probe appears to have stepped up in recent weeks. It was reported last month that he had impaneled a federal grand jury in Washington and has issued subpoenas related to a meeting Donald Trump Jr. held with a Russian-government-linked lawyer in June 2016. Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, as well as his then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, were also at the meeting. Last week, Trump Jr. was interviewed behind closed doors by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Such is the scale of Mueller’s investigation that legal fees for those coming under the probe’s focus are mounting sharply, to the extent that outside legal defense funds could soon be necessary, Axios reports. More Trump aides are said to have lawyered up in response to a draft letter from Trump explaining his reasons for firing Comey, which was never sent and has not been published but has been obtained by Mueller. The letter was handed out to several White House officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, according to The New York Times.

Despite Trump’s repeated insistence that he has been told he is not personally under investigation, the president is possibly facing very real personal consequences. Based on conversations with White House aides, Axios says that Mueller is narrowing in on a possible charge of obstruction of justice against the president.

While the details of the original letter have yet to be disclosed, Trump undermined his legally refined reasons for dismissing Comey when he told NBC News that he did so with the Russia investigation in mind.

Despite all of this, Trump is not thought to be considering firing Mueller, according to Axios. Doing so, Trump associates said, would be as bad as “firing the pope.”
http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-trump-r ... ent-663534
That last line probably means Trump will be firing Mueller
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Would love to see this cunt go down. :nod:
Mike Flynn’s Son Is Subject of Federal Russia Probe

WASHINGTON — Michael G. Flynn, the son of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, is a subject of the federal investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election and possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign, according to four current and former government officials.

The inquiry into Flynn is focused at least in part on his work with his father's lobbying firm, Flynn Intel Group, three of the officials said. It's unclear when the focus on Flynn began.

Barry Coburn, who said he is serving as the younger Flynn's legal counsel, said he couldn't comment on the matter.

Flynn's status as a subject of the Russia investigation widens the publicly known scope of the probe. NBC News has reported that those under investigation have included the elder Flynn and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. Others under scrutiny by special counsel Robert Mueller include Carter Page, a Trump campaign ally; Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and senior White House adviser; and the president's son, Donald Trump Jr.
Several legal experts with knowledge of the investigation have told NBC News they believe Mueller, following a classic prosecutorial playbook, is seeking to compel key players, including Flynn and Manafort, to tell what they know about any possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia. Mueller has brought onto his team a federal prosecutor known for convincing subjects to turn on associates. Any potential criminal liability for Michael G. Flynn could put added pressure on his father, these legal experts said.

"Any time a family member is identified as a subject that does increase pressure," said Peter Smith, a former federal prosecutor. "In the typical parent-child relationship the last thing any parent would want is for their child to get in trouble for something they initiated."

That pressure appeared to mount Wednesday, when House Democrats released information they said confirmed that the elder Flynn omitted from his security clearance renewal application in 2016 that he had traveled to the Middle East in 2015 to meet with foreign leaders about a proposal to partner with Russia in a plan to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia.
He was a controversial figure during the presidential campaign and during the Trump transition, known for writing inflammatory comments on Twitter and circulating conspiracy theories.

He perpetuated a so-called "pizzagate" conspiracy theory that surfaced in the days before the November election alleging Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton had used the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in Washington to run a child sex-trafficking operation. About a month later, in December 2016, a North Carolina man fired gunshots in the pizzeria allegedly in response to the false "pizzagate" story. At the time, Flynn wrote on Twitter: "Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story."

During the Trump transition there were questions about whether Flynn had an official role. He had a government transition email address and was said to be helping his father, who had been named national security adviser. But after the shooting at the "pizzagate" restaurant, Pence, who was in charge of the transition, said Flynn "has no involvement in the transition whatsoever."
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Manafort spokesman to testify before grand jury Friday

Trump’s former campaign chairman has been drawn into the wide-ranging Russia probe as prosecutors examine his business dealings.

Paul Manafort’s spokesman is expected to testify in front of a Washington federal grand jury Friday morning, according to people familiar with the matter.

The spokesman, Jason Maloni, has worked for Trump’s former campaign chairman since early 2017 and has wide visibility into Manafort’s dealings.

It’s unclear exactly what prosecutors want to know from Maloni. Asking a PR person to testify is an unusual step that raises some troubling questions, according to lawyers and others in the industry. Spokespeople are paid and generally enjoy confidential relationships with clients, often seeing private documents and other private matters.

Also, having a spokesperson testify could expose relationships with members of the news media, these people say.

However, there is nothing that prevents prosecutors from asking a PR person to testify — and they often have valuable insight. The prosecutors have also asked Maloni for a wide array of records, according to people familiar with the matter.

He is not considered a target in the investigation, these people say.

A spokesman for the special counsel declined to comment. Maloni also declined to comment.

Prosecutors are said to be looking into Manafort’s business transactions, including possible money laundering, and his actions during the Trump campaign. He has not been charged with wrongdoing.

The investigation has accelerated in recent weeks.

Mueller’s team has taken some aggressive steps toward Manafort that haven’t been taken with others. For example, Mueller’s team raided Manafort’s house in the early morning hours with him home, even as his lawyers said he was cooperating. The team has also subpoenaed a Manafort lawyer, another unusual step for prosecutors.
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Mueller adds another money laundering specialist to his Justice League. Prosecutor #17.

*Nothing to see here. Just a song and dance to appease Democrats.*

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An attorney working on the Justice Department's highest-profile money laundering case recently transferred off that assignment in order to join the staff of the special prosecutor investigating the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia, POLITICO has learned.

Attorney Kyle Freeny was among the prosecutors on hand Friday as a spokesman for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Jason Maloni, testified before a grand jury at federal court in Washington.

Freeny, whose assignment to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's staff has not been previously reported, is the 17th lawyer known to be working with the former FBI chief on the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. She departed from the courthouse Friday with two other members of Mueller's squad: former Criminal Division chief and Enron prosecutor Andrew Weissman and Civil Division appellate attorney Adam Jed, a former clerk to Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/1 ... ion-242794


Facebook Inc. FB 0.40% has handed over to special counsel Robert Mueller detailed records about the Russian ad purchases on its platform that go beyond what it shared with Congress last week, according to people familiar with the matter.

The information Facebook shared with Mr. Mueller included copies of the ads and details about the accounts that bought them and the targeting criteria they used, the people familiar with the matter said. Facebook policy dictates that it would only turn over “the stored contents of any account,” including messages and location information, in response to a search warrant, some of them said.

A search warrant from Mr. Mueller would mean the special counsel now has a powerful tool in his arsenal to probe the details of how social media was used as part of a campaign of Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential election. Facebook hasn’t shared the same information with Congress in part because of concerns about disrupting the Mueller probe, and possibly running afoul of U.S. privacy laws, people familiar with the matter said.

A Facebook spokesman said the company continues to investigate and is cooperating with U.S. authorities. A spokesman for Mr. Mueller declined to comment on the investigation.

Last week, Facebook disclosed that it identified about 500 “inauthentic” accounts with ties to Russia that bought $100,000 worth of ads during a two-year period encompassing the presidential campaign. The company also found $50,000 in ad purchases linked to Russian accounts. The combined funds purchased more than 5,000 ads on Facebook, the company said.

The disclosure was Facebook’s first acknowledgment that Russians used its platform to reach U.S. voters during the presidential campaign. It came about two months after Facebook said it had no evidence of Russian ad purchases.

In recent weeks, social media’s role in disseminating false information or inflaming public opinion has become a prime focus of the Senate and House intelligence committees, which are conducting separate probes into Russia’s influence on the election as well as whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin. The committees are aiming to write comprehensive public reports on Russian activity during the 2016 campaign.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller adds another money laundering specialist to his Justice League. Prosecutor #17.

*Nothing to see here. Just a song and dance to appease Democrats.*

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An attorney working on the Justice Department's highest-profile money laundering case recently transferred off that assignment in order to join the staff of the special prosecutor investigating the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia, POLITICO has learned.

Attorney Kyle Freeny was among the prosecutors on hand Friday as a spokesman for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Jason Maloni, testified before a grand jury at federal court in Washington.

Freeny, whose assignment to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's staff has not been previously reported, is the 17th lawyer known to be working with the former FBI chief on the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. She departed from the courthouse Friday with two other members of Mueller's squad: former Criminal Division chief and Enron prosecutor Andrew Weissman and Civil Division appellate attorney Adam Jed, a former clerk to Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/1 ... ion-242794


Facebook Inc. FB 0.40% has handed over to special counsel Robert Mueller detailed records about the Russian ad purchases on its platform that go beyond what it shared with Congress last week, according to people familiar with the matter.

The information Facebook shared with Mr. Mueller included copies of the ads and details about the accounts that bought them and the targeting criteria they used, the people familiar with the matter said. Facebook policy dictates that it would only turn over “the stored contents of any account,” including messages and location information, in response to a search warrant, some of them said.

A search warrant from Mr. Mueller would mean the special counsel now has a powerful tool in his arsenal to probe the details of how social media was used as part of a campaign of Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential election. Facebook hasn’t shared the same information with Congress in part because of concerns about disrupting the Mueller probe, and possibly running afoul of U.S. privacy laws, people familiar with the matter said.

A Facebook spokesman said the company continues to investigate and is cooperating with U.S. authorities. A spokesman for Mr. Mueller declined to comment on the investigation.

Last week, Facebook disclosed that it identified about 500 “inauthentic” accounts with ties to Russia that bought $100,000 worth of ads during a two-year period encompassing the presidential campaign. The company also found $50,000 in ad purchases linked to Russian accounts. The combined funds purchased more than 5,000 ads on Facebook, the company said.

The disclosure was Facebook’s first acknowledgment that Russians used its platform to reach U.S. voters during the presidential campaign. It came about two months after Facebook said it had no evidence of Russian ad purchases.

In recent weeks, social media’s role in disseminating false information or inflaming public opinion has become a prime focus of the Senate and House intelligence committees, which are conducting separate probes into Russia’s influence on the election as well as whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin. The committees are aiming to write comprehensive public reports on Russian activity during the 2016 campaign.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-g ... 1505514552
Where's the "collusion with Russia to affect US elections", Jelly?

Still patiently waiting for that


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Where's the "collusion with Russia to affect US elections", Jelly?

Still patiently waiting for that
Who are you quoting there? I searched... but, only came back with your posts. :lol:

As far as coordination with Russia, this is a whole lot of smoke...
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
We'll see if they find enough to make it indictable. But, your contention is that Mueller isn't even investigating it. :suspicious:
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