What Can Gun Control Compromise Look Like?
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Re: What Can Gun Control Compromise Look Like?
Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?dbackjon wrote:Man, you gun huggers are grasping.
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Re: What Can Gun Control Compromise Look Like?
yeah I caught that tooAZGrizFan wrote:Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?dbackjon wrote:Man, you gun huggers are grasping.
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Re: What Can Gun Control Compromise Look Like?
AZGrizFan wrote:Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?dbackjon wrote:Man, you gun huggers are grasping.
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
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I’m listening...which would not violate the Constitution?dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
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Do they get to take their guns into the booby hatch ?BDKJMU wrote:Agreed. Can start by institutionalizing the mentally ill like we used to as opposed to letting them roam the streets.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Beavis, it doesn't have to be a gun control law.
There are other possibilities - like improving mental health care. It's not the only one. I was asking if y'all have any ideas. Instead, you just knee-jerk with "THERE ARE ALREADY 10,000 GUN LAWS, LIBTARD!"
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"Shall not be infringed"dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
You and the left are infringing......we were born this way. Why are you treating us like second class citizens?
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Because you're a white male.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:"Shall not be infringed"dbackjon wrote:
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
You and the left are infringing......we were born this way. Why are you treating us like second class citizens?
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That was rhetorical..............but thanks 

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:That was rhetorical..............but thanks
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AZGrizFan wrote:Because you're a white male.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:"Shall not be infringed"
You and the left are infringing......we were born this way. Why are you treating us like second class citizens?
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Truth hurts, don't it?Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote: Because you're a white male.
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Yes,AZGrizFan wrote:Truth hurts, don't it?Chizzang wrote:
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You're welcome.Chizzang wrote:Yes,AZGrizFan wrote:
Truth hurts, don't it?
When I think of all the oppressed peoples around the world, you come to mind almost immediately
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Thank you AZ
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Re: What Can Gun Control Compromise Look Like?
Who will compromise first?Skjellyfetti wrote:This thread has so far been people on one side of the issue with ideas that might help the problem.Col Hogan wrote:
A compromise is both sides giving in to reach the middle...
I’d love to hear what you feel are items the anti-gunners should give in on...
The other side just shits on them and call them imperfect.
Why don't you offer up something and we can try to find some common ground?
As I said on the first page... I'm not holding out hope.
The "right" on guns, or the "left" on abortion?
Don't hold your breath for either.
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Don't worry, jon, I'm sure we can find you a gun free safe space for you to cower in.dbackjon wrote:Man, you gun huggers are grasping.
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Actually I don't think the Constitution prohibits States restricting arms. The Bill of Rights applies to the Federal Government. I think the Supreme Court made up the idea that the 14th Amendment extends the specific prohibitions enumerated in the Bill of Rights per se to apply to the States. Like for instance it's clear that States could establish State churches and also discriminate against people that weren't members of it. As I wrote earlier that's what the Jefferson exchange with the Danbury Baptists was all about. Notably, he did not say the Federal government could do anything to directly help them.
I think a lot of State Constitutions have a right to keep and bear arms in them anyway though. http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/statecon.htm
Now, I realize that as a practical matter we're governed by the Federal Judiciary rather than the Constitution. I'm just saying that people have become accustomed to saying "Constitutional this" or "Unconstitutional" that when it's not the Constitution at all. It's really that Federal Judiciary having made things up.
I think a lot of State Constitutions have a right to keep and bear arms in them anyway though. http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/beararms/statecon.htm
Now, I realize that as a practical matter we're governed by the Federal Judiciary rather than the Constitution. I'm just saying that people have become accustomed to saying "Constitutional this" or "Unconstitutional" that when it's not the Constitution at all. It's really that Federal Judiciary having made things up.
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What can a gun control compromise look like? Well, there are over 3000 federal, state and local gun control laws on the books, and they haven’t stopped any mass shootings...
Even the most anti-gun Democrat (I know, I repeat myself) admitted today that she doesn’t know what laws could...
But (there’s always a but with anti-gun folks)...
One of West Germanys’ first great leaders, Konrad Adenauer, put it succinctly when he said “In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that he did not also limit his stupidity.” And stupidity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Even the most anti-gun Democrat (I know, I repeat myself) admitted today that she doesn’t know what laws could...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/diann ... le/2636874Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a longtime advocate of tougher gun regulations, said Sunday that it was not clear what rules could have prevented the tragic shooting in Las Vegas last week.
But (there’s always a but with anti-gun folks)...
.She nevertheless called for further regulations in the wake of the tragedy
One of West Germanys’ first great leaders, Konrad Adenauer, put it succinctly when he said “In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that he did not also limit his stupidity.” And stupidity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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If only that were true and I didn't have to BEG to get hydrocondone when I have stuff like root canals. The "opioid crisis" thing might be approaching the "gun control" thing in terms of pubic health hysteria.Col Hogan wrote:
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So, this is a thread originally to talk about the ideas, so what regulations are you advocating putting into place?? Details please.dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Don't you hate it when that pesky constitution gets in the way of a good bout of mass hysteria?
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
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I think Jon would concede that Senator Diane Feinstein knows more on this subject that he does...and as I posted above, she is flummoxed because she had to admit that none of her proposals (that made ito the form of a proposed law) would have stopped these shootings...GannonFan wrote:So, this is a thread originally to talk about the ideas, so what regulations are you advocating putting into place?? Details please.dbackjon wrote:
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
She has one idea...that will never make it into law...
So, you ask about compromise...I offered a compromise in an earlier post and you never reacted...not good enough?
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Shall not infringeGannonFan wrote:So, this is a thread originally to talk about the ideas, so what regulations are you advocating putting into place?? Details please.dbackjon wrote:
No, it doesn't. There are many regulations that could constitutionally be implemented. But your gun drama queens have hissy fits.
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Come on, that's just silly talk. I can do the same, quoting from the same amendment; "...well regulated...". Clearly, as some people on here have stated, there are 3,000 gun-related laws on the books and the SCOTUS hasn't struck every one of them down, so the debate is more involved that your pithy rejoinder.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Shall not infringeGannonFan wrote:
So, this is a thread originally to talk about the ideas, so what regulations are you advocating putting into place?? Details please.
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2nd amendment supporters need to just shut up. There is NOTHING to discuss with the left.
You need to prove I am not "well regulated" or a "militia".........which for the sake of this (nonarguement) have both been taken care of on my end.
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