Rankings??

Thundernuts · Post by **Thundernuts** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:13 am

So the new FCS coaches poll shows SUU still in the "getting votes" category after now beating 3 top 25 teams, including EWU who was at number 8. EWU only dropped to 12 after their beating from SUU. Trying to figure what the dealio is, is a loss to Sac worth that low of a ranking still?

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/f ... aches-poll

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:17 am

Thundernuts wrote:So the new FCS coaches poll...

There's your problem Thundernuts. The coaches don't know, don't follow and don't care about teams around the country.

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:44 am

The new Stats poll has SUU at 25 which I think is too low.

Eastern is at 14 which is too high imo.
Montana fell 3 spots after having a bye

Weber fell out after winning

NAU is still not ranked despite convincingly winning 5 straight

The Big Sky might be down this year, but the teams at the top are better than the top 25 polls are giving them credit for.

Kadeezy · Post by **Kadeezy** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:46 am

Not a single vote for Sac State at this point is surprising as well...

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:06 pm

Wildcat Ryan wrote:The new Stats poll has SUU at 25 which I think is too low.

Eastern is at 14 which is too high imo.
Montana fell 3 spots after having a bye
Weber fell out after winning
NAU is still not ranked despite convincingly winning 5 straight

The Big Sky might be down this year, but the teams at the top are better than the top 25 polls are giving them credit for.

It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:14 pm

89Hen wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:The new Stats poll has SUU at 25 which I think is too low.

Eastern is at 14 which is too high imo.
Montana fell 3 spots after having a bye
Weber fell out after winning
NAU is still not ranked despite convincingly winning 5 straight

The Big Sky might be down this year, but the teams at the top are better than the top 25 polls are giving them credit for.
It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.

Yeah it's all pretty bad.

Thundernuts · Post by **Thundernuts** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:17 pm

Kadeezy wrote:Not a single vote for Sac State at this point is surprising as well...

that does seem weird, especially since they waxed my T-birds.

catbooster · Post by **catbooster** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:27 pm

It's not surprising from the coaches' poll. The AGS poll always makes much more sense than STATS or coaches'.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:46 pm

The College Football Ranking Composite has Southern Utah at #13.

Post by **kalm** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:52 pm

catbooster wrote:It's not surprising from the coaches' poll. The AGS poll always makes much more sense than STATS or coaches'.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:09 pm

Absolutely ZERO respect for the Big Sky, and a big dick sucking fest for the MFVC. They can literally do NO wrong.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:59 am

89Hen wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:The new Stats poll has SUU at 25 which I think is too low.

Eastern is at 14 which is too high imo.
Montana fell 3 spots after having a bye
Weber fell out after winning
NAU is still not ranked despite convincingly winning 5 straight

The Big Sky might be down this year, but the teams at the top are better than the top 25 polls are giving them credit for.
It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.

AGS gets it (except no way in hell should Elon be that high)...

7 Elon Phoenix
13 Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
18 Villanova Wildcats
19 Stony Brook Seawolves
24 Richmond Spiders
27 New Hampshire Wildcats

Post by **kalm** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:35 am

89Hen wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.
AGS gets it (except no way in hell should Elon be that high)...

7 Elon Phoenix
13 Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
18 Villanova Wildcats
19 Stony Brook Seawolves
24 Richmond Spiders
27 New Hampshire Wildcats

Allow myself to quote...

myself

Rob Iola · Post by **Rob Iola** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:42 am

89Hen wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.
AGS gets it (except no way in hell should Elon be that high)...

7 Elon Phoenix
13 Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
18 Villanova Wildcats
19 Stony Brook Seawolves
24 Richmond Spiders
27 New Hampshire Wildcats

And yet Delaware will still find a way to lose to Villanova...

Jjoey52 · Post by **Jjoey52** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:00 am

89Hen wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:The new Stats poll has SUU at 25 which I think is too low.

Eastern is at 14 which is too high imo.
Montana fell 3 spots after having a bye
Weber fell out after winning
NAU is still not ranked despite convincingly winning 5 straight

The Big Sky might be down this year, but the teams at the top are better than the top 25 polls are giving them credit for.
It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.

Looks like an eastern based poll.

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SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:52 pm

Kadeezy wrote:Not a single vote for Sac State at this point is surprising as well...

Particularly given that Sac DOMINATED SUU....

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:45 am

Jjoey52 wrote:
89Hen wrote: It's a bad poll. Tell me if this seems right to you:

10. Elon... 6-1 but hasn't won a game by more than one score (1,2,3,3,6,8) and has beaten one ranked team
13. Villanova... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Albany
14. New Hampshire... 5-2, hasn't beaten a ranked team and lost to an unranked Holy Cross
19. Richmond... 4-3, hasn't beaten a ranked team, lost to UD
22. Stony Brook... 5-2, beat New Hampshire lost to UD
23. Delaware... 5-2, beat ranked Richmond and Stony Brook, lost to JMU in the Dukes closest game of the year

Just seems off to me and that people are putting too much weight in pre-season polls and are afraid to move teams up and down week to week.

Looks like an eastern based poll.

I guess

2 North Dakota State Bison
4 Central Arkansas Bears
5 South Dakota Coyotes
6 Sam Houston State Bearkats
8 Western Illinois Leathernecks
14T Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14T South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16 Southern Utah Thunderbirds
17 Eastern Washington Eagles
20 Illinois State Redbirds
21 McNeese State Cowboys
22 Northern Iowa Panthers
23 Youngstown State Penguins
25 Weber State Wildcats

Post by **clenz** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:37 am

The geographic center of the FCS is basically Louisville - just outside to the NW.

Jacksonville State is just east
Indiana State is technically a "western" FCS team.
Butler and Alabama State right on the line.
Samford is west
Alabama A&M is west

Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:39 am

89Hen wrote:
Jjoey52 wrote:

Looks like an eastern based poll.
I guess

2 North Dakota State Bison
4 Central Arkansas Bears
5 South Dakota Coyotes
6 Sam Houston State Bearkats
8 Western Illinois Leathernecks
14T Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14T South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16 Southern Utah Thunderbirds
17 Eastern Washington Eagles
20 Illinois State Redbirds
21 McNeese State Cowboys
22 Northern Iowa Panthers
23 Youngstown State Penguins
25 Weber State Wildcats

Yes, his statement seemed pretty ill informed to me as well.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:36 pm

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
89Hen wrote: I guess

2 North Dakota State Bison
4 Central Arkansas Bears
5 South Dakota Coyotes
6 Sam Houston State Bearkats
8 Western Illinois Leathernecks
14T Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14T South Dakota State Jackrabbits
16 Southern Utah Thunderbirds
17 Eastern Washington Eagles
20 Illinois State Redbirds
21 McNeese State Cowboys
22 Northern Iowa Panthers
23 Youngstown State Penguins
25 Weber State Wildcats

Yes, his statement seemed pretty ill informed to me as well.

Oh, come on!!! Youngstown STATE???

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:34 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

Yes, his statement seemed pretty ill informed to me as well.
Oh, come on!!! Youngstown STATE???

Youngstown State is about as Western as the Dallas Cowboys are the NFC EAST.

JohnStOnge · Post by **JohnStOnge** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:12 pm

89Hen wrote: AGS gets it (except no way in hell should Elon be that high)...

7 Elon Phoenix
13 Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
18 Villanova Wildcats
19 Stony Brook Seawolves
24 Richmond Spiders
27 New Hampshire Wildcats

The College Football Ranking Composite has Elon at #14.

It's got Delaware at 9, Villanova at 23, Stony Brook at 20, Richmond at 25, and New Hampshire at 38.

Jjoey52 · Post by **Jjoey52** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:27 pm

Just seen the eastern schools when I posted, my bad.

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Post by **kalm** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:02 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
89Hen wrote: AGS gets it (except no way in hell should Elon be that high)...

7 Elon Phoenix
13 Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
18 Villanova Wildcats
19 Stony Brook Seawolves
24 Richmond Spiders
27 New Hampshire Wildcats
The College Football Ranking Composite has Elon at #14.

It's got Delaware at 9, Villanova at 23, Stony Brook at 20, Richmond at 25, and New Hampshire at 38.

And who are you going to put above them? #18 SoS and quality wins against Furman, Richmond, and CSU. They'll get their chance to justify the next few weeks.

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:56 pm

I'll say it right now. YSU is the BEST 5 loss team in the nation. They should always be in the polls!

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