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Just because you don't agree with someone, you don't call their wife a slut. That's uncouth behavior.
they think I dont deserve the rights of other americans so why the fuck would I care how wrong it is if I call her a slut.
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As much as even I rode him for refusing the money to help our schools, I still have a nagging feeling he's gonna be shown to be right in the next 2 years when that money runs out and then, where will we be.
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Meh. Probably just taking a wide stance in an undisclosed location. Nothing to see here.
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danefan wrote:
Cleets Part 2 wrote:I don't see what's the difference... They don't do anything anyway (Nothing)
unless you count:
1) self righteous posturing
2) Holy-er than thou attitude
3) Lying
4) Stealing funds = code word (misappropriating funds)
5) Vest pocketing
6) forwarding their financial self interest at the expense of the people they serve

Douche Bags: All of them..!!!

:coffee:
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I use a broad brush when the 90% rule applies... :lol:
Sure there is probably a politician (here and there) that is a true public servant, nothing more nothing less... but I can safely argue that is absolutely the exception

Have I offended you again... why so touchy (only 35% of these douche bags are lawyers)
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Cleets Part 2 wrote:
danefan wrote:
And the broad brush of Cleets, Inc. strikes again! :roll:

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I use a broad brush when the 90% rule applies... :lol:
Sure there is probably a politician (here and there) that is a true public servant, nothing more nothing less... but I can safely argue that is absolutely the exception

Have I offended you again... why so touchy (only 35% of these douche bags are lawyers)
Douchebaggery is not commutative. So while only 35% of these douchebags are lawyers, the converse is not necessarily true. :mrgreen:
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dbackjon wrote:First lady Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press earlier Monday her husband has been gone for several days and she did not know where.


Jenny Sanford said the governor said he needed time away from their children to write something.


ON FATHER'S DAY????? Great Family Values, there, douchebag
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wow the faggots seem to be throwing stones at a NORMAL MAN, the kind that doesn't practice unnatural acts with members of the same sex....SOME GALL......whatever Gov. Sanford does it is not even close to being as abhorrent as their lifestyle.
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UNHWildCats wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:
Just because you don't agree with someone, you don't call their wife a slut. That's uncouth behavior.
they think I dont deserve the rights of other americans so why the **** would I care how wrong it is if I call her a slut.
you don't..........YOU DESERVE ONLY THE CONTEMPT OF DECENT PEOPLE....
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UNHWildCats wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:
Just because you don't agree with someone, you don't call their wife a slut. That's uncouth behavior.
they think I dont deserve the rights of other americans so why the fuck would I care how wrong it is if I call her a slut.
So you think that makes it ok to call some mans wife a slut? You should care becuase it makes you look foolish and like a JSO.
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dbackjon wrote:
This is what gets me. In Arizona, if the Governor is out of state, or not reachable, he HAS to turn temporary control over to the next-in-line (Secretary of State in Arizona).

When Bruce Babbitt (former Governor) would take his yearly rafting trip down the Colorado in the Grand Canyon, he had to do so, since he was out of touch with the capitol.
The governor in SC has so little power we could do without one for years, just look at the last 8 :D
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I really don't see a problem with this at all. He wanted to get away and did so. He is now back. What is the big f'n deal? Really?
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It does amaze me the number of people here who in the past have said of politicians who have affairs that it is between that politician and his wife. Now let's see a guy who breaks the most important vow he will ever make with another person compare to a guy who re-charges some where for a few days.


Personally, I think once a person enters political office it all matters. Some things more than others. I will say that this is not the action of a guy who is considering higher political office. Which may be a good thing. I like Sanford. One of the reasons is because he may be the only politician I have ever seen that sticks to his principles 100%. You may not agree with his views but he has rarely if ever waivered from his core beliefs. On the other hand, I couldn't support for him for POTUS.
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OL FU wrote:It does amaze me the number of people here who in the past have said of politicians who have affairs that it is between that politician and his wife. Now let's see a guy who breaks the most important vow he will ever make with another person compare to a guy who re-charges some where for a few days.


Personally, I think once a person enters political office it all matters. Some things more than others. I will say that this is not the action of a guy who is considering higher political office. Which may be a good thing. I like Sanford. One of the reasons is because he may be the only politician I have ever seen that sticks to his principles 100%. You may not agree with his views but he has rarely if ever waivered from his core beliefs. On the other hand, I couldn't support for him for POTUS.
The same could be said for Dubya.
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grizzaholic wrote:I really don't see a problem with this at all. He wanted to get away and did so. He is now back. What is the big f'n deal? Really?
The deal is that nobody knew where he was. I don't care of you go to relax, but you're in charge. You need to let us know. He doesn't have to let us know that's hiking on the Appalachian Trail, a simple, " The Governor has gone to Atlanta for a few days to relax" is more than sufficient.
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Cleets Part 2 wrote:I don't see what's the difference... They don't do anything anyway (Nothing)
unless you count:
1) self righteous posturing
2) Holy-er than thou attitude
3) Lying
4) Stealing funds = code word (misappropriating funds)
5) Vest pocketing
6) forwarding their financial self interest at the expense of the people they serve

Douche Bags: All of them..!!!

:coffee:
I lot of people on this board would not like his politics and I understand that you are generalizing, but Sanford may be the one guy who doesn't fit that mold. He is odd, stubborn, difficult to deal with, very fiscally conservative, but he really has been a person of principle. Does he have an ego, Yes. I can't imagine any politician that doesn't. But that, other than his political views, is about the only typical flaw of a politician he has shown.
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MarkCCU wrote:
OL FU wrote:It does amaze me the number of people here who in the past have said of politicians who have affairs that it is between that politician and his wife. Now let's see a guy who breaks the most important vow he will ever make with another person compare to a guy who re-charges some where for a few days.


Personally, I think once a person enters political office it all matters. Some things more than others. I will say that this is not the action of a guy who is considering higher political office. Which may be a good thing. I like Sanford. One of the reasons is because he may be the only politician I have ever seen that sticks to his principles 100%. You may not agree with his views but he has rarely if ever waivered from his core beliefs. On the other hand, I couldn't support for him for POTUS.
The same could be said for Dubya.
There is a big difference in being a governor and being President. I think W showed us that. I don't think Sanford would be incompetent. I just don't think he would make a good president.
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OL FU wrote:
Cleets Part 2 wrote:I don't see what's the difference... They don't do anything anyway (Nothing)
unless you count:
1) self righteous posturing
2) Holy-er than thou attitude
3) Lying
4) Stealing funds = code word (misappropriating funds)
5) Vest pocketing
6) forwarding their financial self interest at the expense of the people they serve

Douche Bags: All of them..!!!

:coffee:
I lot of people on this board would not like his politics and I understand that you are generalizing, but Sanford may be the one guy who doesn't fit that mold. He is odd, stubborn, difficult to deal with, very fiscally conservative, but he really has been a person of principle. Does he have an ego, Yes. I can't imagine any politician that doesn't. But that, other than his political views, is about the only typical flaw of a politician he has shown.
He isn't that bad. I don't like him becuase he fought Charlie Condon for the governor spot, promised Charlie a position and never delivered. Also, he wouldn't accept the stimulus money. South Carolina will have to pay it back regardless of it's spent here or not, so we might as well use it. I understand his stance, but don't do it at the expense of your SOVERIGN STATE.
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OL FU wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:
The same could be said for Dubya.
There is a big difference in being a governor and being President. I think W showed us that. I don't think Sanford would be incompetent. I just don't think he would make a good president.

I was hinting at both stand by thier principles. :coffee: But I agree, I don't think he would be effective.
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MarkCCU wrote:
OL FU wrote:
There is a big difference in being a governor and being President. I think W showed us that. I don't think Sanford would be incompetent. I just don't think he would make a good president.

I was hinting at both stand by thier principles. :coffee: But I agree, I don't think he would be effective.

I understood even though I didn't say it.

I don't think Bush really had principles on fiscal issues. You don't cut taxes and then pass a huge medicare bill and have anything but contradictory views on governments role. Bush certainly was prinicipled in foreigh policy and stuck to his guns while popularity was shrinking. I wish he would have been a little more pragmatic on that front.
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MarkCCU wrote:
OL FU wrote:
I lot of people on this board would not like his politics and I understand that you are generalizing, but Sanford may be the one guy who doesn't fit that mold. He is odd, stubborn, difficult to deal with, very fiscally conservative, but he really has been a person of principle. Does he have an ego, Yes. I can't imagine any politician that doesn't. But that, other than his political views, is about the only typical flaw of a politician he has shown.
He isn't that bad. I don't like him becuase he fought Charlie Condon for the governor spot, promised Charlie a position and never delivered. Also, he wouldn't accept the stimulus money. South Carolina will have to pay it back regardless of it's spent here or not, so we might as well use it. I understand his stance, but don't do it at the expense of your SOVERIGN STATE.
I on the other hand thought his position on the not-stimulus money was dead on :nod:
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MarkCCU wrote:
OL FU wrote:
I lot of people on this board would not like his politics and I understand that you are generalizing, but Sanford may be the one guy who doesn't fit that mold. He is odd, stubborn, difficult to deal with, very fiscally conservative, but he really has been a person of principle. Does he have an ego, Yes. I can't imagine any politician that doesn't. But that, other than his political views, is about the only typical flaw of a politician he has shown.
He isn't that bad. I don't like him becuase he fought Charlie Condon for the governor spot, promised Charlie a position and never delivered. Also, he wouldn't accept the stimulus money. South Carolina will have to pay it back regardless of it's spent here or not, so we might as well use it. I understand his stance, but don't do it at the expense of your SOVERIGN STATE.
I don't think he promised Charlie anything. I think it was understood as a tradition of old SC politics that he would give Condon a bone, but Sanford is anything but a good old boy traditionalist. Condon on the other hand is the poster boy for that.
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CID1990 wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:
He isn't that bad. I don't like him becuase he fought Charlie Condon for the governor spot, promised Charlie a position and never delivered. Also, he wouldn't accept the stimulus money. South Carolina will have to pay it back regardless of it's spent here or not, so we might as well use it. I understand his stance, but don't do it at the expense of your SOVERIGN STATE.
I don't think he promised Charlie anything. I think it was understood as a tradition of old SC politics that he would give Condon a bone, but Sanford is anything but a good old boy traditionalist. Condon on the other hand is the poster boy for that.
I was at Port City Grille,after working on the Condon campaign, when Sanford said so days after his election.
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OL FU wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:
He isn't that bad. I don't like him becuase he fought Charlie Condon for the governor spot, promised Charlie a position and never delivered. Also, he wouldn't accept the stimulus money. South Carolina will have to pay it back regardless of it's spent here or not, so we might as well use it. I understand his stance, but don't do it at the expense of your SOVERIGN STATE.
I on the other hand thought his position on the not-stimulus money was dead on :nod:
I think his plan to use the money to pay down debt is smart, but if you won't be allowed to use it that way and you will have to pay it back, why would you deny it?
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Fiscally, Bush was a moron. How do you wage 2 wars and not raise taxes? How do you wage 2 wars and not have bond sales or something like that to raise money? When it came to the war, you're right, he stuck to his guns.
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MarkCCU wrote:
OL FU wrote:
I on the other hand thought his position on the not-stimulus money was dead on :nod:
I think his plan to use the money to pay down debt is smart, but if you won't be allowed to use it that way and you will have to pay it back, why would you deny it?

In the end it wasn't denied. His point was I am sticking to my guns until someone makes me take it. What was he suppose to do, as soon as Obama said not say, ok I'll take it. Might has well never have raised the argument.
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